The Secret DVD With a Free Bonus (Blog)

[Savage]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

The Secret DVD With a Free Bonus

[iry]

How can those (me) who already bought "The Secret" DVD get the 'Free Bonus Meditation' lol?

p/s: should have wait offer from steve

[mighty]

Thanks for the deal on the DVD. I made the purchase. I am now wondering how I get the bonus MP3 meditation? I didn't receive any instructions in the order confirmation email.

Is it something I download online or does it come with the physical order?

Thanks.

[Savage]

As mentioned on the order form, it says you'll receive an email within two business days with the download link for the MP3. This was a deal we put together very quickly to coincide with the Oprah show, so I think the meditation download is still being setup.

[TechnoGuyRob]

It's a nice fiction movie, but I'm very sad it's gained such mass popularity, because people buy in to absurdities too easily.

First, anyone who needs a movie to tell them that their thoughts create things because of their nervous system's interaction with the rest of their body (e.g., you think about moving your hand and your hand moves, but you think about the Sears Tower vanishing and it obviously doesn't)--well, let's hope that doesn't apply to anyone.

However, the real dreariness is, for example, a conversation with a person I had the other day. She actually believes "thoughts have frequencies"* (which is a meaningless statement, but sounds spiffy when it comes from the mouth of someone who's good at shamming), "the law of attraction is a law just like gravity"**, and I would like to say "more pseudo-scientific humbug," but the truth is it isn't even scientific in the most crude and unwelcome definition of "science".

I apologize for the tirade, but as you see, it is quite marvelous (not in a pleasant way) people can construe such hilarious propositions in the 21st century. Then again, most everyone is really still as informed about the world as most everyone of millenia ago; only those who raise their consciousness about the information we (those who raised their consciousness in the past) have already discovered (e.g., scientists, perhaps some ambitious laymen) will understand the ludicrousness. It's as if someone made a movie about Santa Claus, and now everyone is running off to find him, without realizing the whole thing was symbolical (if that) fiction.

* Frequency? Are you kidding me? Look up what frequency means. "Frequency is the measurement of the number of occurrences of a repeated event per unit of time." A thought is apparently a chronologically recurrent event? Well, then, that is completely insignificant since a pendulum moving back and forth has a frequency but so what? Unless you mean the frequency of an emittent electromagnetic wave, in which case it would be no problem at all to measure it, since radio waves, microwaves, x-rays, gamma rays, regular light rays, and countless of other waves pass through us every second and we can measure all of them through easy principles like Compton scattering. And even if our brain emitted some kind of electromagnetic waves, that is still irrelevant, since it is ridiculously minor and blends into the background noise, not to mention has no capability of actually affecting anything tangible. Besides, the bonobo ape's brain is very similar to a homo sapien's brain, so why are we discriminating that this (false) principle applies to just humans?

** No. It most definitely isn't. Just because you feel at liberty to use the word "law" (so did Moore), does not mean you could form an exact scientific hypothesis and verify the results with predictions to match every single time (that's the definition of a "law"). Newton's laws of motion are a law because it mathematically describes motion of classical objects (and experimental observations match theoretical predictions every single time). Einstein's theory of relativity is a law because it mathematically describes the structure of spacetime (and experimental observations match theoretical predictions every single time). Quantum mechanical results such as Schrodinger's equation, the De Broglie energy transformations, and the Pauli spin matrices' effect on particle spin are all laws because they mathematically describe the interactions and structures of subatomic particles and forces (and experimental observations match theoretical predictions every single time). The "Law of Attraction," any way you state it, is not a law. Obviously, if one places a greater effort to achieve something (i.e., "puts one's mind to it"), there is a higher probability of it occurring. However, that occurrence is still guided by one's mechanical, physical, body motions.

EDIT: And regarding that conversation earlier, she tried to assert "people such as Newton, Galileo, and Einstein have used this law." She's probably just jealous that there are people smarter than her, and tries to justify that with meaningless poetry (i.e., words that sound nice).

[Savage]

Try not to get too hung up on the choice of language. Words like frequency, vibration, and resonance are commonly used in I-M circles out of habit, but they don't share the original technical meanings. I don't know who first coined such word usage, but it stuck.

Science has its own language foibles anyway. Consider the word atom for example -- hardly an accurate term for what it describes, but we're stuck with it out of habit.

[David1]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Try not to get too hung up on the choice of language. Words like frequency, vibration, and resonance are commonly used in I-M circles out of habit, but they don't share the original technical meanings. I don't know who first coined such word usage, but it stuck.

Science has its own language foibles anyway. Consider the word atom for example -- hardly an accurate term for what it describes, but we're stuck with it out of habit.

What do you think would be the best way to test this law of attraction? I'm skeptical about this but I'm willing to brainwash myself for a specific time and try all in my power to do what I must and analyze my results in the end. What would you recommend Steve?

[Lemon Juice]

Originally Posted by TechnoGuyRob

She actually believes "thoughts have frequencies"* (which is a meaningless statement, but sounds spiffy when it comes from the mouth of someone who's good at shamming), "the law of attraction is a law just like gravity"**, and I would like to say "more pseudo-scientific humbug," but the truth is it isn't even scientific in the most crude and unwelcome definition of "science".

I think this may sound pseudo-scientific because our science has not yet delved seriously into the field of measuring thought and studying the law of attraction - it is only beginning to do it and so we are mostly left with these "pseudo-scientific" definitions not from scientists but from people who use and teach this law from the practical point of view. But remember that we cannot be sure if this pseudo-science will not become "real" science in years to come, many theories in the past were considered pure heresy and now have become legitimate science. In the 20th century a device was made to detect human aura - something that had been done for thousands of years by people who had clairvoyant capabilities but no background in science. Who knows if we will not have instruments to read thoughts in the future? And it may even be scientifically proven that thoughts have wavelengths and frequency just as radio waves do and they may be thoroughly analysed by science?

[sidelko]

In the blog post, Steve said this is a special extended cut of the film.

Does this mean this is a different version then the one on sale through Law of Attraction :: The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie or just different since it has the meditation mp3 included in the purchase?

Sean

[sidelko]

Originally Posted by sidelko

In the blog post, Steve said this is a special extended cut of the film.

Does this mean this is a different version then the one on sale through Law of Attraction :: The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie or just different since it has the meditation mp3 included in the purchase?

Sean

heh, the code added

Law of Attraction :: The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie

When I added the domain thesecret dot tv. That is a cool SEO trick Steve.

[sidelko]

Originally Posted by sidelko

In the blog post, Steve said this is a special extended cut of the film.

Does this mean this is a different version then the one on sale through Law of Attraction :: The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie or just different since it has the meditation mp3 included in the purchase?

Sean

I checked out the DVD that I had and compared the times to the one listed on Amazon. Turns out the one I have is about 90 seconds shorter then the current version for sale. I guess that would mean I have a v1 copy of The Secret.