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Old 10-26-2009, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Debauchery
1. excessive indulgence in sensual pleasures; intemperance.
2. Archaic. seduction from duty, allegiance, or virtue.

Halloween is coming up in a few days. It's time for a 30 day trial in debauchery, starting on October 31.

I propose the following:
1. Have as many partners as you can possibly get your hands on.
2. Partake in as many mind-altering substances as you think you can handle. You may do them sacramentally, privately, publicly, or intellectually.
3. Open the barriers you've placed on your sub-conscious mind. Express yourself through creative outlets you've previously stifled. Music and art are just the beginning. There are so many ways to connect with primal and raw creative energies...
4. Make more money than you can even imagine. Go out, hustle, and get your hands on a pile of cold hard cash, a pile bigger than you've ever seen. Smell it, fondle it, then spend it on something that tickles your fancy.

If anybody wants advice on how to make the trial work, I'll be glad to give you pointers. At points, you will strongly consider whether you are indeed a god, the one creating your reality.

Steve, let me know if you need a guide for this 30 day trial If you don't like it, you can at least blog about how it did or did not lead to conscious growth. I know Johnny can help you out. Raw foodism is just one prong in a culturally-liberated lifestyle.

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Old 10-26-2009, 09:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why would someone do this?
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Because it feels good. Because it's existential. Because.

And its an experience that can lead to conscious growth. One can indulge in a purely conscious way.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have to say, in two and half years of visiting this site - this is one of the best posts. If only I had the guts!
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I have to say, in two and half years of visiting this site - this is one of the best posts. If only I had the guts!
All you have to do is ask how you can find the guts to make it happen, and I will show you how to find them.

Your guts are there, you just don't know how to speak with them yet.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Please do! This is something that has sort-of dawned on me recently - I have lost the ability to have gut instincts. I just think and feel entirely with my head.
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Think back to a time in your childhood, a happy moment. It doesn't have to be anything specific, really. Just imagine the sights, the smells, the sounds, and the textures in this memory. Now imagine the feelings attached to it. The warmth of the sun, the swoosh of the wind on the leaves, the smells of the outdoors or food or whatever.

As you begin thinking about that, quiet your mind. Tell yourself that what's around you right now matters. Stop thinking of the future and the past. Focus on your breathing and how it makes you feel. Try and figure out what it feels like to be a cell in your stomach, somewhere deep inside of your abdomen. Clear out all other thoughts, and listen to your body. Now ask your body to send it all of the signals that it's getting. Don't filter any of them, just allow them all in as they are. Don't think about changing them, don't blame the pain on anything. Just feel everything as it is. Quiet all outside thoughts.

Now look around your world. See it as it is, not as you think it to be. You'll begin to notice details that weren't there before. See yourself as a part of your environment rather than a being separate from it.

Now do whatever you want. Say whatever you want. Sing if you want to.

The state you're in at the end of that is the state you're in as a child. The idea is to free yourself from the grip of negative emotion, and to be emotionless. To just exist.
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This is kind of a strange 30 day trial, but I like it. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time doing it. Just be sure to detox afterwards.
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Hmm, the "snorting coke off a stripper's tits with a rolled up $100 bill" 30 day trial.

I think I'll pass
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Hmm, the "snorting coke off a stripper's tits with a rolled up $100 bill" 30 day trial.

I think I'll pass
You can make it whatever you want it to be. It could be the "tries to achieve open and conscious relationship with open minded people" while trying out new forms of self-expression.

Or the "lives for money" 30 day trial.

It's all about discarding virtue and temperance in favor of yourself.
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Hey I did this one...in Jun/July...you get no details...but it was a birthday, transformation...and saying goodbye to old ways PARTY!!!

Good times...whatever you do...you will learn and grow!
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It's a 30 day trial in being a modern teenager!

Well, except for that "lots of money" part.
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It's a 30 day trial in being a modern teenager!

Well, except for that "lots of money" part.
I'm consistently amazed at the amount of money modern teenagers have. I do sometimes wonder where it comes from.
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In my experience, many teenagers have a lot of money, but they don't "make" it. Unless getting it from your parents counts as making it. Hmm... I suppose that's just as legit as any other business, now that I think about it.
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In my experience, many teenagers have a lot of money, but they don't "make" it. Unless getting it from your parents counts as making it. Hmm... I suppose that's just as legit as any other business, now that I think about it.
I guess it's no different than any other form of hustling, except that it's more socially acceptable.
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Because it feels good.
But doing it "excessively" doesn't feel good. The excess ruins whatever pleasure you initially got out of it. At least this is my experience.

Satiety is not nearly as pleasurable as moderate enjoyment.
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But doing it "excessively" doesn't feel good. The excess ruins whatever pleasure you initially got out of it. At least this is my experience.

Satiety is not nearly as pleasurable as moderate enjoyment.
Psh, the next thing you'll tell me is one woman is better than three.
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Psh, the next thing you'll tell me is one woman is better than three.
Well, this I've found to be true as well, after trying it both ways.

Definitely report back when your trial is completed. I'm very eager to see the results.
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A different trial.. Personally, if I was doing it, the only thing that I would not do is drugs. I don't like the idea of something other than my conscious decision changing my mind in a drastic way. And who knows if the effects are irreversible or not. But, to each his own.
Good luck

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A different trial.. Personally, if I was doing it, the only thing that I would not do is drugs. I don't like the idea of something other than my conscious decision changing my mind in a drastic way. And who knows if the effects are irreversible or not. But, to each his own.
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We often don't like the idea of what change will bring. Mind-altering substances are the only substances worth taking. The only thing you really have to fear is that you'll gain in intimate knowledge of the Netherworld that will change your perspective on reality dramatically.
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This is timely for me as I've been seriously considering this for a while...at least for a month, won't hurt. I'm tired of being so virtuous...I've been being good for so many years now...I want to have some fun...of the indulgent kind.

The only thing is I've been doing well in the martial arts I train with and my teacher is really happy with my progress, but he has a definite judgement against drugs and excess...and he' is a reiki master, so I just know he'd be able to sense that I've been indulging, and it would probably affect my progress? I've waited for years to find the right dojo for me so I don't want to blow it now...and he would expell me if he found out...(which is part of the appeal I think) Maybe I'm regressing back to when I had just left school, but I've always loved my naughty side...I just went all straight for a while and worked on myself...but now that I am surrounded by all these healthy people, all I want is to take drugs? Woe is me
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This is timely for me as I've been seriously considering this for a while...at least for a month, won't hurt. I'm tired of being so virtuous...I've been being good for so many years now...I want to have some fun...of the indulgent kind.

The only thing is I've been doing well in the martial arts I train with and my teacher is really happy with my progress, but he has a definite judgement against drugs and excess...and he' is a reiki master, so I just know he'd be able to sense that I've been indulging, and it would probably affect my progress? I've waited for years to find the right dojo for me so I don't want to blow it now...and he would expell me if he found out...(which is part of the appeal I think) Maybe I'm regressing back to when I had just left school, but I've always loved my naughty side...I just went all straight for a while and worked on myself...but now that I am surrounded by all these healthy people, all I want is to take drugs? Woe is me
In a book called "On Becoming an Alchemist", the author mentions a form of Buddhism wherein new students are required to follow strict regimens before they're initiated into the more advanced practices. The advanced students often show up drunk, they have a lot of personal problems, take drugs, etc. New students usually mistake them for the newbies.

The point she was making is twofold: 1. The advanced don't always look advanced. 2. It's alright if things get a little messed up from time to time, especially as an alchemist. It's when things are at their most unstable that there's the most creative potential. Internal upheavals are great material for transmutation.

Why not take a month off? Do a little running each day to keep your body conditioned and to soften the effect of any indulgences you partake in. Hell, if you're like me, exercise is a form of indulgence (I'm happiest when I can barely move). Fact is, if you think this would be good for you, or at the very least it's something you mean to do, you can find a way. The alternative is to make excuses.
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We often don't like the idea of what change will bring. Mind-altering substances are the only substances worth taking. The only thing you really have to fear is that you'll gain in intimate knowledge of the Netherworld that will change your perspective on reality dramatically.
You may feel that your perceptions have been enhanced and maybe they do. I was talking about the chemical effects it has on your brain, temporary or permanant. (The side effects have been well documented.) I would not want my brain changed in such a way. I prefer enhancing my perception through meditation or astral projection (never tried it.)

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I think I will. But I'm still a little worried that my teacher will know and I'll get thrown out of the dojo. He's quite sensitive to peoples energy fields...TM instructor, Reiki master and Black belt. I don't want to get kicked out, but I really feel like I need to do this

I guess not worrying about it is the best way to go, as he will pick up on me feeling guilty and fearful of his detection of drugs in my system just as much as he would the trace of drugs themselves.
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Love this trial! I did it myself once. My 20's.
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I find this interesting, things which you wrote about: sex and money are some of the biggest motivations for many people. Some people thrive in it and are happy, some enjoy the hunt, but when they finally get what they want, they realise that it's not the key to happiness (thought it might be a part of it).

If you are suggesting a realistic way to to makes those things come faster to you, I believe that could be a great and enrichening trial. I definitely interested and will check here again to see that you suggest.
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