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Old 10-19-2009, 04:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Your last name, Pavlina, is misspelled on the video page. The "i" is missing.
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Thumbs up I think it worked, so thank you!

I did the free offer to eliminate a belief and I choose the one "I'm not good enough". I didn't really notice a difference at first and I was even a little nervous doubting that anything had changed.

Fast forward a couple of days: something has definitely changed. I had the habit of putting things off if they weren't absolutely necessary, even if they were things that I really wanted to do. There was always a feeling in the background of annoyance and dislike. Now I simply start them, feeling that I want to do them now instead of putting them off. I'm not entirely sure yet if the change is because of the method, as I was reading other personal development books at the time, but I suspect it is.

So something has shifted, and if the Lefkoe method is responsible for this shift, then: thank you Mr. Lefkoe for making this method and offering a free try; thank you Steve for introducing us to the Lefkoe method. I'm glad that it worked for you.

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I liked his video and his way of elimination beliefs...

But if he is really a friend of yours maybe you can give him the advice to stop spamming people with 1 mail a day... once a month is enough to remind me that he exists.

It is not as if there is anything new in there except the next type of limiting belief, plus 10 testimonials...
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I say again, the main sticking point for me was that his method put to much emphasis on the way parents influenced me. There are ares of interest, however, where I never even discussed things with my parents. My parent's were nowhere near the problem. They didn't do anything I can think of, that could have been in any way related to that field. I can't help but wonder, won't the positive result be affected in any way by the fact that his method focuses so much on parents, while I simply cannot relate to parents when it comes to my particular limiting belief? And why doesn't he even mention the fact that his method may not work if parents are not the main reason you got that belief?

To clarify, my belief was about not being good enough, but only in a specific context, not good enough in general. I believe I can be the best of the best in many ways, but there is a specific context in which I don't trust myself. I cannot say parents played even a 1% role in that, so I can't even bring myself to complete his 20-minute belief-eliminating super-technique.

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I did the "I'm not good enough" exercise last week, and I do think it made a difference. A simple enough process, but it did something. I've caught myself saying "I AM good enough" dozens of times since then.

When I did the exercise I had a huge synchronicity later that night, which I won't go into but it was a jaw-dropper. I was watching TV and there was almost a word for word reenactment of the dialogue I had with the exercise just a few hours before. I was stunned for a few minutes.

Clearly it freed up some pretty powerful energy. I've been really "attacking" my days since then, just getting things done and diving into projects.

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Thank you Steve and Mr. Lefkoe. The 'I'm not good enough' video has done wonders for me.

I'm very sensitive to the subtle energies, inside my body and out, and I've experientially become aware of the phenomenon of sucking in energy vs. radiating it outward. With this video, I just the other day became aware of the fact that my 'power' chakra, the energy near my stomache, has been extremely vampiric. It explains many issues for me such as quesieness and other things when faced with certain stimulus, and now I am faced with the uncomfortable, yet incredibly fulfilling process of learning to focus my power in that area outwards as well, along with the rest of my body. I think that learning that I finally AM good enough, realizing that I AM allowed to take up space in this world, is ok. ANd I thank you for that opportunity.

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I just spent days in a workshop with Shelly and Morty Lefkoe, and they are people of great integrity with a passion for making lives better! I had no idea I'd see their names mentioned on this blog, but it sure makes a lot of sense!
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The videos reinforces negative thought patterns just to prove a point. Cheap tricks!
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It was not bad in parts, but he could do with more attention to positive thinking, there is a lot of time spent remembering negative events and I'm not sure how helpful this is. Also, although the parents or caregivers influence is strong, the influence of friends and others, especially as a teenager, is important.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks Steve,

I did the free...I'm not good enough...that was fun...I really like the "who am I really?"...he does a great job of getting to the belief that we are consciousness...which I'm into...BRAVO!
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I went through the elimination of the mistakes are bad, or something like that, video, and I definitely think it made a difference. I've been showing a lot more people my writing, and even showed a song I wrote to someone. All of this is pretty huge for me, and it wasn't happening before the video. I'm just curious if it will last or not... either way it's been neat, and is certainly worth a try when it's free.
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One thing to note for those who don't like trying to pin the source of every belief on their parents:

Morty offers his e-book free for download when you invite three friends. The e-book covers the process used in the videos in more detail, and while it stops short of explaining how to identify limiting beliefs in the first place (which is what he'll be working on turning into digital form in the near future), it does cover how to use his method for any known limiting belief, irrespective of what the original causes were.
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I did the "Mistakes and failures are bad" elimination and still feel skeptical. I'm not sure if it is gone or that his talking just makes me think it's gone for the moment.

And Steve, you look kind of pale. Is this because of you diet?
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Thanks Steve,

This was interesting. My favorite part was how he talked about becoming an "observer" and that you are the creator of your beliefs, and hence your life.

I did the "Mistakes and Failures" video (it takes about 45 minutes total, not 20 minutes as advertised by the way)...and actually, I'm still not quite sure if it worked or not.

I don't think I feel anything when I hear "mistakes and failures are bad..." Perhaps I should watch my behavior over the next couple of months and see if actions change....Either way, it certainly stimulated my personal development.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Steve, are you planning on starting an affiliate program for the Lefcoe Method? It would be nice to get a discount on some of the programs.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks all for your interest in my belief-elimination process. Glad to hear it has made a difference in the lives of some of you.

After working with over 13,000 clients in person or on the phone, it is clear to me that the source of all self-esteem type beliefs is formed from interactions with our parents during the first 5-6 years of life.

For more details, check my blog post of 9/22/09, How To Find The Source Of Beliefs, Morty Lefkoe - Eliminate Beliefs Permanently--Guaranteed (TM).

Also, although the belief will be gone if you complete the process, you need to eliminate all the beliefs that cause a given problem in order for that problem to be eliminated permanently.

There is a lot more information about beliefs, how they are formed, how to get rid of them, etc. on my blog. If you have any specific questions, leave a message on my personal blog (see above) or Bust A Limiting Belief | ReCreate Your Life where you can see a lot of other posts.

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Steve, thanks for posting this. Morty, your process sounds A LOT like a conversation (or distinction) from the Landmark Forum/Werner Erhard. Not just the concept and the distinction, but the words too. Is that part of how you developed it?
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After working with over 13,000 clients in person or on the phone, it is clear to me that the source of all self-esteem type beliefs is formed from interactions with our parents during the first 5-6 years of life.
Thanks for finally addressing this question. I've read the information on the website and I understand. I can only assume that there is a specific belief-elimination technique for relationship problems.

The websites seem pretty difficult to figure out, for example, I couldn't find the full list of beliefs. (Now I did). When I went to recreateyourlife.com, It always redirected me automatically to recreateyourlife.com/free , but I had already tried the free ones, and all I wanted was to get to the Store recreateyourlife.com/store)

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But if he is really a friend of yours maybe you can give him the advice to stop spamming people with 1 mail a day... once a month is enough to remind me that he exists.
yeah once or thrice
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he needs to reduce the emails that are sent out.. neat method, just did it (after getting several of the emails), and we will see how it goes, but he needs to slow down on the volume of communication..

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I liked his video and his way of elimination beliefs...

But if he is really a friend of yours maybe you can give him the advice to stop spamming people with 1 mail a day... once a month is enough to remind me that he exists.

It is not as if there is anything new in there except the next type of limiting belief, plus 10 testimonials...
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he needs to reduce the emails that are sent out.. neat method, just did it (after getting several of the emails), and we will see how it goes, but he needs to slow down on the volume of communication..
The volume of emails are a major turnoff. That is why I sometimes use a throw away email address when visiting sites. If it turns me off enough I will just send all further emails to blackhole.
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after doing the "im not good enough" i felt a strong sensation on the top of my chest area, a thick line about 4-5 cm across that area. Later that day i did my cardio on my bike and went for 30mins while before i struggled for 5mins.
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Steve, thanks for posting this. Morty, your process sounds A LOT like a conversation (or distinction) from the Landmark Forum/Werner Erhard. Not just the concept and the distinction, but the words too. Is that part of how you developed it?
Thanks for the question. I created the basic belief-elimination process in January 1985, long before the Forum ever existed. I did do the original est training and worked with Werner for a couple of years.

To the best of my knowledge, the Forum does not help you find the specific beliefs that cause specific problems, and then help you eliminate all those beliefs, and then guarantee for a lifetime that the problem will never return.

I do think from what I understand that some of the distinctions are the same as the Forum, but then I've been told that some are similar to Ernest Holmes' Science of Mind, the Law of Attraction, etc.

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I've gotten like over 40 emails from this guy...
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I did the mistakes and failures are bad exercise, I think it worked.

I was actually working while I was watching it, so stop starting the video, not the ideal way to do it, haha

But I'll probably do "I'm not good enough" this weekend.
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I just did the I'm not good enough exercise, and it feels like it worked.

What else I noticed, is that when my parents treated me the way they did that seemed unpleasant, (ie. what I filled in the box) they were only trying to motivate me, and that's why they did it, and they probably weren't annoyed with me at all..
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I partly agree with you, but there's an unsubscribe option to his emails, you know?
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I also thought he went a little overboard with the spam emails.

But I did like the exercise. I don't know if the belief is completely gone, but I haven't really felt like "I'm not good enough" since...

I just unsubscribed and haven't gotten any since.
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I watched the video and have some reservations regarding the method, on a philosophical basis. In practice, I'm sure it'll work for a lot of people because I don't think it differs greatly from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and basic counseling work (which have an established track record). I might be jumping the gun here, but I'm going on what I heard in the video:

These are some of the key points I got from the video:

(1) Life inherently has no meaning. Meaning is what we attribute to it (as a product of conditioning, etc.).

(2) Beliefs and feelings are products of attribution; they have no independent existence of their own

(3) You can be a happier and healthier person if you get rid of all your limiting beliefs.

My essential critiques are (and I've truncated them there):

(1) Life has a meaning. Our spiritual purposes are to firstly transcend our false senses of self, and then to find out what our own truths are. Thousands of years of spiritual and religious teachings across the world ech this point. Energy pracitioners would talk about attaining detachment in the mind (6th chakra activation), but that's just one of the many steps...

There are far too many people living off fake ‘spiritual highs’ believing that detachment from right/wrong; good/bad is the way to be. In practice, while these persons may be highly successful in business; quite often they exhibit signs of a lack of empathy, spiritual awareness - sometimes, even a conscience. How often have we encountered typical type-A personalities who bash their way through the world uncaring of their effects on others? Certainly these individuals are powerful, successful, etc. but surely living a fulfilled life is more than that?

(2) Beliefs and feelings are products of attribution: Again, I would have to disagree. People from different backgrounds, cultures, races, ages, etc. have experienced at some point in their lives a sense of ‘universal truths’, often breaking their own (false-sense) of limiting beliefs. Such life-changing experiences can occur whether or not a person is religious, or performs spiritual practice. To say that all beliefs and feelings are products of the mind limit severely the spiritual senses inherent in all human beings.

Moreover, certain ‘beliefs’ and ‘feelings’, regardless of whether they are internal or externally induced, may actually lead you to (correctly) conclude: that (certain) Mistakes are bad (for example). I’ll use two dramatic examples to make my point. Your demo provides the tools to eradicate any belief or feelings or negativity that arise from them by positing alternative views of a situation. (I should add that you also do not address who the ‘creator’ of these views are and why you would create such views for yourself in the first place – these are addressed again, in the traditions I described above). Say – for instance – someone who has committed a violent act of murder, rape or something less severe like theft or jaywalking seeks to disassociate themselves from the natural feelings of negativity that accompany such actions (in most ‘healthy’ people).

(3) Removing your limiting beliefs makes you healthier and happier.

If life has no meaning, then ‘peace’, ‘happiness’ and even ‘health’ are empty concepts. I’ve argued above why life does appear to have some meaning that transcends the limitations of ego

Also as I explored in the examples of violence above, certain beliefs and feelings may be in accordance with an innate sense of morality that would be detrimental for any human being to lose. Certain experiences of beliefs and feelings — in my opinion — transcend the mind and actually signify the presence of a much grander, broader universal existence – they represent Truth. (with a capital T)
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