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Old 10-12-2009, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nice.... this is similar to the techniques I use, but more left-brain, slow, conscious, figuring-it-out approach, while what I use is more right-brain, playful, fast, authentic unconsious response-oriented. For both, it's perspective shifting that allows you to release your old gunk. It's nice to have technologies for making these transformational changes, for ourselves, and for future generations -- we were born at a good time!
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It's awesome!

...though it is just one of six possible interpretations of it. Having something that can change a belief that fast is good, but it might be bad in other cultures. :P

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But seriously, it worked! Wow! Haha.
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For some reason the part about being the creator not the creation really struck a cord with me.

I felt it. I saw it. I can do anything and be anything I want to be.

Cool

IŽm not sure if it worked and the limiting believe is gone, but I think it is less... probably because "i am not good enough" is tangled with "I am not interesting enough". IŽll work on that, and IŽll succeed.
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I tried the "I'm Not Good Enough" session. Since the limiting belief definitely did not stem from my parents, it doesn't work for me. I was a do anything with no shame kind of kid until I hit junior high school. That's when I had some teachers who were just there for the paycheck and instilled that same kind of "You're Not Good Enough" mantra to the students.

No offense to teachers! There are some I absolutely love like my college finance prof. (I can tell he loved his job with his enthusiasm), although he probably flunked more than half of the business majors. lol.
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What if you do the same exercise only with teachers instead of parents?

Should have the same effect if I understand the process right.
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Since the limiting belief definitely did not stem from my parents, it doesn't work for me.
That's one very nice thing about TIME Techniques -- it's totally individualized, so you can release negative emotion and limiting belief regardless of the root cause, whether it involved your parents, some other people from your childhood or adult life, or even if it's from a past life or from a previous generation. It's 100% customized for you, but you don't have to share anything out loud -- the whole process can be done completely content free.
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I just went through most of the "Mistakes and Failures are bad" video, which I felt helped in some vague way, probably because I didn't really feel that... until I hit this gem (for me, personally). For the longest time, I haven't really found too much use out of PD material, but when you hit gold, it can be so sweet - I love manifesting more powerful beliefs!

...the belief that it’s impossible to make lasting change, quickly and easily! <-- I didn't realize the importance of feeling strongly enough about the reverse!

Here are some fun mixups of the words that I created for fun and use, you'll understand if you saw the video.

1) Mom and dad thought that creating lasting change, quickly and easily were impossible, but they could be wrong.

2) Mom and Dad were mad or annoyed because you didn't do what they wanted, or the way they wanted or when they wanted, not because creating lasting change was slow, hard or impossible

3) Lasting change was considered slow, hard and nearly impossible in your family but that doesn't mean they'd be considered slow, hard or nearly impossible in all families.

4) Not achieving something might not necessary mean that it will continue to be slow, hard or nearly impossible, especially in your next attempt. In fact, you might have already succeeded.

5) Not achieving something doesn't make it automatically a slow, hard and nearly impossible process. Its part of a learning process that might not be necessary at all, since learning processes (creating lasting change) can be manifested quickly, easily with super-high probability of success.

6) Mom and dad's annoyance wasn't a response to creating lasting change, they were just too insecure to let you learn so much faster, in such an easier manner and with such a super-high probability of success.

7) Perhaps your parents had limiting beliefs about a child your age succeeding so brilliantly.

6) Does "creating lasting change quickly, easily and with a high probability of success" now seem like it's the truth, not just a truth? (Please answer out loud.)

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I'm already realizing so many other beliefs that I can change so easily... this is powerful and simple. Thank you for sharing, Steve.
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Since the limiting belief definitely did not stem from my parents, it doesn't work for me.
Well, still, since the belief spanned from an event that you labelled (or whatever wording the guy used, I already forgot :V ), then the same still applies, right? Just replace parents with teachers.

As for me, this really drove home a signature I've seen around here: "I don't believe in beliefs." Now I feel I've really internalized what it means to be the creator. I daresay, with a bit of modification, you can apply this basic method to any belief and get results. (In my case, I'll definitely try to do that, because I sure can't and won't pay for any other programs right now.)
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But, Steve, I'm afraid. Without my limiting beliefs, my subjective reality will fly apart at the seams! Oh well, I guess it's time to nuke my comfort zone again...
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But...but...I don't want to be marketted to after they capture my email.
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Hi Steve,

Just a reminder that the FTC now requires you to disclose your relationship to the product you are promoting:

FTC: Bloggers must disclose material connections to endorsed products | Tech Policy & Law News - Betanews

After reading these regulations and the interview with the guy from the FTC, it sounds like they are relying on other people to turn bloggers in. I wouldn't want you to get caught up in this mess. Basically, to be in compliance, you just have to add a sentence identifying what you gain from sending your readers to the link.

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Are there any affiliate links for these products? I'd like to support Steve since he recommended these products to us.

I'm interested in Lack of Confidence, Approval Seeking, and Fear of Rejection sets. I'm applying to medical school in 18 months and need to do everything possible to get my state of consciousness into great shape

I don't want to allow limiting beliefs to keep me from going after my dream of becoming a surgeon. I've got loads of pre-medical classes to start in January in addition to completing my degree, I'm starting an OR assistant job soon, and I'm about to start studying for the MCATs. This chick has got to be confident as @#$#!

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But what if I don't remember anything my parents did to me, related to my limiting belief or if parents aren't the main cause of the limiting belief?

I mainly think I'm not good enough only in one very narrow context, but in general, I do not.
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While I do not believe this particular process is for me, I really enjoyed giving it a whirl. Morty seem like a really good, sympathetic guy and I get the feeling he honestly wants to give and be of service to people. Real good vibes there.
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Can we change the Context (Our collection of beliefs about reality) in 20 mins?

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Nice.... this is similar to the techniques I use, but more left-brain, slow, conscious, figuring-it-out approach, while what I use is more right-brain, playful, fast, authentic unconsious response-oriented. For both, it's perspective shifting that allows you to release your old gunk. It's nice to have technologies for making these transformational changes, for ourselves, and for future generations -- we were born at a good time!
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How's this compared to Belief paraliminal cd?
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Tomorrow I will be able to meet new people because I do not fear making a mistake or failing anymore.
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Am I the only one this didn't work for, technically speaking? I got a "click the link below" but there wasn't a link below - just a yellow box.

ETA: Wait, never mind, got it to work!

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Just a reminder that the FTC now requires you to disclose your relationship to the product you are promoting:

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After reading these regulations and the interview with the guy from the FTC, it sounds like they are relying on other people to turn bloggers in. I wouldn't want you to get caught up in this mess. Basically, to be in compliance, you just have to add a sentence identifying what you gain from sending your readers to the link.

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I read that this doesn't go into effect till Dec 1st and that a boilerplate disclaimer somewhere on the site is fine. Since I have a number of product recommendations throughout the site, I'm planning to use the boilerplate and add it to my legal notice, which has a link at the bottom of every page. That way if I ever need to update it as the law evolves, I don't have to change lots of text bits across the site.

I've also mentioned in my blog a few times that whenever I recommend something, I join the aff program or work out a JV deal if possible. This aff program is a bit indirect because I obviously don't earn commissions on the freebie I'm recommending. I only earn something if people like the freebie and want to buy more items from Morty down the road.
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While I do not believe this particular process is for me, I really enjoyed giving it a whirl. Morty seem like a really good, sympathetic guy and I get the feeling he honestly wants to give and be of service to people. Real good vibes there.
I got the same vibe from him -- and his wife -- when we hung out with them in person. They both really care a lot about helping people.

Morty first developed this method to help himself (while on a 5-hour flight), and it uplifted him so much that he knew he had to share it.
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I really enjoyed this process and felt really great you shared this with us.

Thank you for that!
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It's awesome!

...though it is just one of six possible interpretations of it. Having something that can change a belief that fast is good, but it might be bad in other cultures. :P

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Yes, this is like The Work for lazy people who like to say "Yes" every 30 seconds.

But seriously, it worked! Wow! Haha.
So are we calling Steve slow for using the technique? >.>
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So are we calling Steve slow for using the technique? >.>
It's relative. Some people, most people probably, never get around to releasing limiting decisions EVER. And this technology that allows you to release a limiting decision in 20 minutes (it's actually more like 50 minutes, using this online introduction thingie) is superhumanly fast compared to some of the techniques that have developed over the last half-century.

TIME Techniques, though, is quite a bit faster. You can release all of your old stored up negative emotions and LOTS of limiting decisions in one session with a TIME Techniques practitioner. Often, limiting decisions completely disappear, to the point where the client laughs out loud delightedly at how they'd been carrying it around, during the negative emotion release -- before we even get to the limiting decisions!

It depends on your preference -- that fellow's program is good for a more left-brained engineering type of preference, I think, if it's like this sample, someone who likes to figure things out in beta state, where TIME Techniques would probably be more attractive to someone who prefers a more right-brain, artistic approach, or someone who wants to get in better rapport with their unconscious mind and would like to let their unconscious mind do most of the work in alpha state. His technique seems more like a puzzle - more conscious and mental; where TIME Techniques is more like a massage - more subconscious and kinesthetic. Both work for both -- they're both all about perspective; it's just a matter of preference.
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Might be a little soon to say, but it seems like this worked for me.
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I just tried going through the 'mistakes and failure are bad' video and - although I feel I've made some progress with it, I'm not entirely sold on it yet. Which, as Morty says, means the belief is still there.

My main motivation for wanting to remove this belief is that it holds me back from trying new things, pushing myself out of my comfort zone where I will fail - and need to fail to learn. I am okay with this on an intellectual level.

What I'm having trouble is accepting that a serious mistake, one for example, that results in loss of life could ever be open to interpretation as anything other than tragic.
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What I'm having trouble is accepting that a serious mistake, one for example, that results in loss of life could ever be open to interpretation as anything other than tragic.
How about the loss of life that is resulting right now from NOT trying new things and possibly failing? Is it worth it to be emotionally, mentally and spiritually dead so that you can avoid being physically dead?

Doesn't that choice strike you as rather tragic?
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What I'm having trouble is accepting that a serious mistake, one for example, that results in loss of life could ever be open to interpretation as anything other than tragic.
There's a difference between the event, its meaning, and its consequences. The mistake itself only has the feelings caused by the meaning you attach to it. It is the consequences that are tragic in that case, not the event itself.
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