Conscious Growth Workshop Results (Blog)

[theorique]

Originally Posted by kniyogi

This is definitely leaning towards a class based system--the belief system that what we get in life is *solely* based on our "intentions". How about if someone is born with a genetic defect or even suffers from some chemical imbalance in her/body. As in your aticle about "a fixed income is a sucker bet", you are making the impicit argument that some "weaker" people in society will remain so because of their "mindset" and "intentions".

I don't think anyone's implying that - there are lots of other factors like hard work, seeking help and support from others, prayer and connection with higher beings (if that is your belief), and so forth.

As far as I have read, even the most fervent believers in the law of attraction don't claim that you 'intend and forget' and then automatically get what you desire. Intentions and mindset sure don't hurt, though.

-jack

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by kniyogi

We may not live in heaven--but how about personal development which is socially and ecologically just and moves us closer to heaven ?

Is a blog full of free content that teaches anybody with an open mind how to manifest anything they want somehow socially and ecologically unjust? I'd love to hear how that might be.

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by kniyogi

Again, I am pointing out the reality too--that "intentions" are not the *sole* criteria for someone achieving money/sex/health and all the other wonderful things you strive for

If you believe this to be the case, then you will have trouble manifesting your intentions. If you believe that something outside of you is responsible for your state in life, you will always give up your power to that person/place/thing. That's your conscious choice. You can consciously choose to be poor, lonely, and unhealthy - lots of people do it.

[Alexandra L]

I received a tremendous amount of love and support from the group as a whole and from an amazing number of individuals, both before and after my stage appearance. I was unprepared to have my long-standing issue of low self-worth so easily discerned by the group. If you had asked me on the 1st day of the workshop how I felt I would have answered that I was happier than I have been in a very long time. I truly thought I had processed my disappointment and shame related to my bankruptcy. But my genuine self knew better and took pretty drastic steps to force me onto the stage and allow me to have that experience. The rest of day 2 went by without my complete presence and I retreated to my comfort zone with my husband as soon as possible after 5 that night. I went to bed early and woke up around midnight.

I started implementing some of the suggestions I had received regarding opening myself up to receive from the universe. I looked for my truths regarding my shame and started to feel fine about the bankruptcy. What started coming up after that was another all-too familiar shame related to my physical body. But that lead to something new-a conscious awareness of how I had been afraid of my own power to be great. Keep yourself locked on shame and see how little power is left over to engage yourself to try something new.

Steve had challenged me on the stage to state that I was awesome. I really couldn't do it with any conviction. By the 3rd day I was feeling awesome and was able to communicate that effectively to a few others. Of course I need to ensure that my great feeling survives the end of the workshop and I am already seeking out new people in Sacramento to form a support network. At the workshop, Jason suggested I join or form a support group for entrepreneurs that have gone bk. How great is that?

I've been writing this post on and off during the course of my day. The thread has gotten a little off topic with the discussion of the dvd prices. But an interesting point for me is how many people are posting that I know I met personally and were so supportive of me. (Jesse I had no idea you were a darkworker- your energy felt unusual to me, but not dark.) It was easy to connect with almost everyone I met and Shauna's description of the drink of fresh water is accurate, only in my case it was more like drinking from the fountain. I did have a little fear that it would be cold and lonely back in my real life but the thought that came a millisecond later told me that would only be true if I allowed it to happen. And it hasn't even been close to true.

A belief I adopted before the workshop is that things change immediately in the non-physical world and that there is sometimes a lag before the physical world reflects the change. My inner world is different for having met Steve, Erin, and everyone else I had the opportunity to meet, whether individually or as the group. I am excited to see how my outer world changes to catch up.

Angela, Legendary Member, this post is for you. I would have probably procrastinated about writing if you hadn't been so opening excited to hear what happened. I started writing about 1130 this morning to offer you an answer. Fortunately other attendees answered much sooner.

P.S. Shawn, I love the iceberg analogy. Good for you.

With love,
Alexandra

[kniyogi]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

Is a blog full of free content that teaches anybody with an open mind how to manifest anything they want somehow socially and ecologically unjust? I'd love to hear how that might be.

Well, you yourself said that "Money, sex, health, and other things like that flow to people who are at a higher level of consciousness, from those who are at a lower level of consciousness"-- correct me if I am wrong but I am seeing here an acknowledgement of a belief system that that there will always be some at a lower level of consciousness--while the strong will get stronger. If that is what you are learning from the blog, then I think there is social injustice in the message somewhere.

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by Alexandra L

(Jesse I had no idea you were a darkworker- your energy felt unusual to me, but not dark.)

Are You a Lightworker or a Darkworker?

Darkworkers are very unusual and uncommon. Out of the 100 or so people there, I was the only one that I was consciously aware of. (There may have been some highly skilled darkworkers concealing themselves, which is what we have to learn to do to achieve power in this world).

Darkworkers often get labeled as "evil", but this is untrue. In reality, we're just highly unusual and uncommon. My energy is unusual because there aren't many people like me. I have no idea what the statistical frequency in the population is, but it's pretty rare. Darkworking/lightworking is more about "polarity" than anything else. it answers the questions, "In which direction does the energy flow?"

We're here to help people like any other conscious person. We just do it by focusing on who we are rather than focusing on what we are doing for the world. We also look far into the future (through ourselves) rather than focusing on the world immediately around us.

I suppose we are rare because not many people are able to focus on themselves and receive energy from the universe...it takes an especially deep reserve of willpower, and an alignment with a deeper truth than most people are aware of.

P.S. Read those books and make some money! Those children out there need you!!!!

P.S.S. Your power is deeper than you know.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Alexandra L

Angela, Legendary Member, this post is for you. I would have probably procrastinated about writing if you hadn't been so opening excited to hear what happened. I started writing about 1130 this morning to offer you an answer.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. You have moved me deeply.

Lots of love,
Angela

[Gooseus]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

It is a fact, not an assumption, that defective people are of lower value

The problem is that value is such a subjective term, what does it really mean? Depending on the context, defective people have huge amounts of value.

Depending on the extent and type of the defect (which I would merely define as a physical trait which expresses itself in a way which is greater than the standard deviation from the norm in any aspect, personality, physical, etc.), then a defect has value for both those beings which have it and for those with which they are connected in that it is something to be overcome, integrated, or potentially cured. Those that help people with defects gain enormous value from the connection and sometimes the knowledge gained from those with defects (savants for example) can potentially help us "normies".

Of course you could point out those which are born with or gain horrible, incurable and painful defects which may seem to take away a being before they can realize any potential or have any noticeable value. Well, anyone who is conceived is brought to this world with a connection to someone and if their existence seems to only cause sorrow, then we can say that their existence helps to increase that someone's potential joy through that sorrow.

Every experience has value, and if we look at every being as a part of a whole which makes up the Universe, then every existence is merely an aspect of the whole experiencing itself. Thus, every being's existence has value.

I'm having such fun reinforcing the workshop and folding in all the other things I've been reading since starting down the personal growth and spiritual path. Though it means I'm gonna have to be up late getting all the things done that I'm not doing since I'm thinking and writing all this stuff.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

Money, sex, health, and other things like that flow to people who are at a higher level of consciousness, from those who are at a lower level of consciousness.

Money, sex, health and other things flow to people with power. That doesn't necessarily mean higher level of consciousness. Hitler sure had all of these things, but that doesn't mean he had a higher level of consciousness. Plenty of gang leaders have all those things flow to them too, but that doesn't mean they have a higher level of consciousness. Although, you're a self-proscribe darkworker, so perhaps in your view Hitler and gang leaders have a higher level of consciousness?

On the other hand, Gandhi had a pretty high level of consciousness, and he definitely didn't have sex, health and money flow to him. He was frail, didn't have much sex (once he reached a certain age), and had very little money and yet he had a high level of consciousness (and power) that allowed him to move a whole nation.

It is a fact, not an assumption, that defective people are of lower value.

Quite a judgement there. You're confusing monetary worth of people with real worth. Simply because someone doesn't have a networth of $1 million doesn't mean they inherently have less value as a person.

[Alexandra L]

@ Jesse,

Thanks for the darkworker info. I had read that blog article a long time ago and had forgotten it. I understand much better now.

I will read very soon. I am intrigued by looking at my situation from the babies' point of view. Thanks. And thanks for the affirmation on my power. It is scary and exciting at the same time.

@ Angela,

You are welcome. I read your posts about why you would not be attending and I was a little disappointed that you weren't going to be there. There was certainly a lot of Steve's energy as you had predicted but I think the group brought a lot more love and intuition than you might have expected by reading the workshop description. The oneness was very tangible.

I love the idea of feeling good on purpose and wanted to meet the woman behind the website. Maybe some other time.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

It's how the universe and reality works. It is a fact, not an assumption, that defective people are of lower value. But yet, they are still of value because we as a society support them. That fact is amazing, given that defective people were culled 1000's of years ago, even as recently as the 1950's in Nazi germany.

Pardon me, but this gives me the major icks. Is this indicative of the "love and connection energy" that was prevalent at the workshop? That it's amazing that defective, lower value people are still supported by society? That doesn't sound like a Steve & Erin vibe.

(By the way, Nazi Germany in the 1950's? Was that a typo?)

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Alexandra L

@ Angela,

You are welcome. I read your posts about why you would not be attending and I was a little disappointed that you weren't going to be there. There was certainly a lot of Steve's energy as you had predicted but I think the group brought a lot more love and intuition than you might have expected by reading the workshop description. The oneness was very tangible.

I love the idea of feeling good on purpose and wanted to meet the woman behind the website. Maybe some other time.

Thanks. It sounds to me like the Erin Sensibility was far more prevalent than I was imagining it would be, and I think I might have attended if I had known that -- not that I don't appreciate what Steve has to offer, just that to spend money and time on a seminar, I would like a little bit of schmoop in the mix. Maybe Steve is becoming more schmoopy, though.

I would love to meet you at some point -- it's easy and delightful to imagine meeting you and others here.

[Rapid]

I've been reading your reviews with great interest.

I think $197 is reasonable for a set of DVD's (even though I am not financially successful right now). I look forword to the preview clips (and perhaps purchase the set for my birthday!).

Steve, for people who can't afford to buy the whole set, how about selling the DVD's individually? For instance, if someone wants to work on her/his relationships, then s/he can get the Conscious Relationships DVD.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by AuspiciousEight

I see.

When will you have a workshop for the rest of us?

If you mean to ask if I'll be doing a workshop for the masses, that's a resounding no. That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

When I want to do something massive, I'll use the Internet -- that's a better mass medium than bringing people to a face to face event. Why reach only 100 people at a time when I can reach millions online for virtually no cost?

The live events I'm doing have an entirely different purpose than what I put in my blog posts.

[lacinato]

The confusion of monetary worth with actual worth here is interesting. (Not talking about the DVD price or anything Steve has said, but the conversation after that). Why so much interest in it? Steve is selling his DVD to people in a certain price range, makes sense. That's not the same as, higher money=higher consciousness. A higher consciousness could mean less desire for money. Or not. Depends on the person and their goals. But to assume everyone wants money and that it is indicative of consciousness, is a big assumption.

This delves into the topic somewhat: YouTube - Adyashanti talks about the "secret"
The video is bad but the audio content is valuable.

[kniyogi]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

If you mean to ask if I'll be doing a workshop for the masses, that's a resounding no. That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

When I want to do something massive, I'll use the Internet -- that's a better mass medium than bringing people to a face to face event. Why reach only 100 people at a time when I can reach millions online for virtually no cost?

The live events I'm doing have an entirely different purpose than what I put in my blog posts.

I hope the live events do not attract "proud darkworkers" who do not want to "support defective people". We cannot have enough lightworkers--and we cannot have enough *scarcity* of darkworkers.

[jasonwisdom]

I just want to say I am very grateful to have met so many great people - there was this happy bubbliness in the air that was very supportive.

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To whoever felt "miserable" at the end (I have a strong feeling it is many people not one) - please understand that something inside of you got activated during this program - which is part of the program's intention.

A lot of people go to seminars (Landmark, etc) and think the point of them is to get all rah-rah "Woo-Hoo!!!" as if you're riding the peak of life like you just won the Super Bowl. (Don't get me wrong Landmark's technology is extremely powerful and effective, I just don't care for all the salesmanship or hype)

Life does not work like that - it is not meant to be an ongoing series of Super Bowl trophy moments. Anytime you see that Super Bowl trophy moment being glorified, somebody is trying to sell you something.

As for me, I was very emotionally activated & challenged for much of the program. (I have long been working through one specific pattern, that keeps flaring up at times when I am on the crest of having a massive opening......anyway...) I didn't even get up on stage to sit on the hot seat or anything like that. And I certainly didn't feel I was carrying around the Super Bowl trophy at the end.

Yet I had fun. I got nuggets (probably the biggest epiphany was, "the key to building power, like the key to building muscle, is to rest between workouts!" That's not an exact quote but you get the principle). (the second biggest was Steve & Erin opening up so beautifully about their relationship - I bought the DVD's just for that, it will be worth the $100 to show my future partner a working example of a successful relationship, and how each person dealt with the sensitive turning points)

And, I made contacts - great people whom I want to stay in touch with, and also successful people whom I would be smart to stay in touch with - in most cases the people I met had both qualities. The networking at an event like this can change your life at least as effectively as the content.

This didn't feel like "the highlight of my life". It felt like practice. Like I went from twice/week of martial arts, to a 3-day martial arts intensive. And now I'm back to my routine, hopefully boosted ahead by the intensive. Like the martial artist, my commitment was the same before, during, and after this workshop.

Going back to whoever felt miserable at the end, I've finished seminars in the past & felt I got absolutely nothing from it, and felt much much worse than before it began. It happens.

Maybe you're going through a dark night of the soul and the shift just hasn't completed yet. Maybe some of your myths about reality are getting challenged and your ego-mind is panicking. Or maybe this is not the right environment for you. Deciding your next move is where intuition comes into play. For me, I ask God to guide me - not the church, not Steve Pavlina, not some enlightened guru, not my spirit guides, and not Jesus - but God directly. Why not go straight to the top?

Anyway, if you can, follow intuition and not logic or emotions. Then you will be guided in the right direction.

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Sorry all for the long post...I ramble when I'm tired from red-eye flights.

[ericabiz]

This one's for Angela...

I experienced significant shifts during the workshop. I came home in a daze and slept a lot, then got sick with a cold. This is all part of trying to "catch up" to who I became in the workshop. At the end, right before I left for the airport, I became aware that I would have to make some specific, difficult changes in order to become more of the person I am in my heart. I'm not ready to talk about that publicly yet, but rest assured that things are changing over here.

Being on stage was a great experience for me. Meeting others was a great experience for me. Being able to have the full support of an entire room while processing the diagnosis that just got handed to me in the form of a lab result was incredible. And knowing that my story was inspiring to others really helped me understand where to go in the future.

I'm still grappling with truly enjoying and resonating with who I am vs. sometimes having a fear-based reaction that I talk about myself too much or that people will see me as self-absorbed. My heart believes it would be far more self-absorbed to hold my story in and not share it with others. The reality is that occasionally I am going to get blasted for this by others. One of the shifts I have to make is being okay with that -- and becoming more radically transparent through my blog, etc. Living a life in public means being okay with those who want to build themselves up by tearing you down, or those who feel a similar need to express themselves and envy someone who can.

By the end of the workshop, I was able to see a clear, articulate vision of exactly what I wanted to be doing in the future -- not just public speaking, but being aware of the shifts I could make in the audience by being on stage. This is the first time I have been able to see this. My next goal is to break through some of my own barriers and limitations to ensure I am ready to take my "new" life on and really start helping others.

-Erica

[PerDev]

WOW Erin has got Lot of POWER now..
Waiting for DVD to release

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

That's very common after workshops like this. I have gone through similar things. It's actually okay though, to realize that you saw something in yourself you want to change, but not feel like you have the power to change it. That's why you work on Truth, Love and Power. Don't resist what you found out about yourself. You've already reached out to me in a private email, so we should continue our conversation there, but trust me when I tell you that you'll look back on this time and realize you had to slip and fall in order to climb a different ladder. It hurts at first, when you land on your rump, but you'll dust yourself off, grab the new ladder, lean it against a different tree, and start climbing again. And you've got people willing to help you get started. To private email then...

[Erin Pavlina]

Thank you PerDev. I have amazed myself. At the workshop I discovered I was able to articulate concepts I wasn't sure I was ready to express. That was a huge shift for me. All this time I kept thinking I wasn't quite ready yet. But now I can see that i'm able to express my wisdom coherently. Having people come up to me during the workshop asking when I was going to do one of my own was touching and empowering and uplifting, so thank you to everyone who communicated with me on that

[dan1529]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

That's very common after workshops like this. I have gone through similar things. It's actually okay though, to realize that you saw something in yourself you want to change, but not feel like you have the power to change it. That's why you work on Truth, Love and Power. Don't resist what you found out about yourself. You've already reached out to me in a private email, so we should continue our conversation there, but trust me when I tell you that you'll look back on this time and realize you had to slip and fall in order to climb a different ladder. It hurts at first, when you land on your rump, but you'll dust yourself off, grab the new ladder, lean it against a different tree, and start climbing again. And you've got people willing to help you get started. To private email then...

I'll share that I do feel kind of dazed and cognitively out of it since I got home from the conference. Hey, maybe it's the jet lag, but I think it might be more than that.

I went in order to accomplish a few specific things: I wanted to work on daily habits and routines, get some further thinking done on my career plans, and meet Erin and Steve and a room full of amazing people.

But you always can't control what formative experiences you might have when you put 100+ amazing people in a room together, and it turns out that in a sense, I feel like I got more out of the conference than I bargained for. Maybe more than I'm ready for. I'm not sure what will come out of this experience just yet.


Daniel Koontz


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Visit me at Casual Kitchen!

[Erin Pavlina]

When you go home after a workshop like this all the old stuff in your environment will seek to anchor you back to how things were. You've got to remember the decisions you made when you were in your higher state of awareness and not let the past and the old way pull you back down to your previous state. Review your notes. Make an action plan. Stay in touch with the energy you felt at the workshop.

[Angela]

Erica, thank you -- and I am wishing you lots of health and overflowing vitality.

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

When you go home after a workshop like this all the old stuff in your environment will seek to anchor you back to how things were. You've got to remember the decisions you made when you were in your higher state of awareness and not let the past and the old way pull you back down to your previous state. Review your notes. Make an action plan. Stay in touch with the energy you felt at the workshop.

The momentum I got from the workshop is still so strong (almost 3 days afterward) that I've simply broken all the anchors that were holding me down.

On Day 1, the only 2 "places" I had a connection to were: 1) my office desk (a powerful negative connection), and 2) my computer desk at home (a connection pulling me into myself, away from the nasty office desk, but not quite powerful enough to support me financially).

I haven't been to my office desk even though I was due back Monday morning. I may not ever go back again, and if I do, it will probably be to collect my things.

Think about that for a second...

[MichaelHowe]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

When you go home after a workshop like this all the old stuff in your environment will seek to anchor you back to how things were.

I know the first thing I did to help visually break with my old reality was to completely rearrange my office.

[jiminnyc]

Originally Posted by dan1529

But you always can't control what formative experiences you might have when you put 100+ amazing people in a room together, and it turns out that in a sense, I feel like I got more out of the conference than I bargained for. Maybe more than I'm ready for. I'm not sure what will come out of this experience just yet.

Dan, I too got more out of this event than I ever thought I would. I think that comes from approaching it with an open mind, an open heart and no expectation other than to experience it fully. And I know from talking with you that you did experience it fully. Like many of us who were there, you tried new things (raw food, anyone?) and met amazing people who challenged your perceptions and preconceptions -- and that can't help but have an impact on you.

But I know you and I think you are ready for it. Maybe you are not ready for all of it at once, like you said, but you are ready to get started, if you just take it in small steps and build on your past successes.

I know I am not ready for all of it yet either. The one concrete task that I gave myself was to start (another) 30 day trial of waking up early. I even went to a concert (PINK w/ the TING TINGS - OH YEAH!) on Monday night after coming back with you on the red-eye and I still forced myself to get up at 6:30AM the next day and even attended a breakfast meeting at 8AM! That one simple change to align my habits with my desires has had a ripple effect of empowering me in many ways. I spoke up at the meeting - THREE TIMES! - and I got more done by noon than I sometimes accomplish all day. And that felt pretty damn good, so I'm trying for the same thing today!

Keep practicing (authority!) and you will figure it out over time. And in the meantime, just keep enjoying the journey!

Jim

[jiminnyc]

Originally Posted by MichaelHowe

I know the first thing I did to help visually break with my old reality was to completely rearrange my office.

Michael, That is an AWESOME idea! I will do that as well! Thank you for the suggestion!

Jim

[PerDev]

You are welcome Erin.

I was not in the Workshop but below are the tools I am using to constantly remind me the decisions I taken when I was in higher state of Consciousness.

My goals are not yet clear but I am currently focus on my context only and refining my mental model of reality. then it might refine my Purpose, Goals etc.

Do let me know if you have suggestion for making it more batter and effective.

1. Journal - which is in my PC but not able to see daily, I need to find way
2. White board in my Home which i can see everuday
3. Sticky board - With various drawing like
1. TLP Triangle,
2. My Purpose in Life - Which is similar to Steve but I also have additional values.
3.Urgent vs Important Matrix
4. Self-Fullfilling Prophecy Statements (its more real then reality)
5. Goal Achivement Guidelines - Like Belief Shift, Environment SHift, Identity Shift, Habit shift etc.
6. Actionoutline. - I am really bad at planning ..
7. Some good quote and Poem like Guy in the Glass
and lot of other tool i am using and exploring etc.. I want everything on Auto Pilot .. And want to go with the flow .. You see I am very Lazy

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

When you go home after a workshop like this all the old stuff in your environment will seek to anchor you back to how things were. You've got to remember the decisions you made when you were in your higher state of awareness and not let the past and the old way pull you back down to your previous state. Review your notes. Make an action plan. Stay in touch with the energy you felt at the workshop.

[PerDev]

So in Nutshell what I am doing is Modeling Steve
I can also do modelling krishna, Buddha and other realized person but
As Steve has already put lot of time invested in it and same knowledge i am gettiing easily through his blogs and book and also what he is saying make sense to me i decided to model steve for now.

Do let me know you feedback on this Idea.

Originally Posted by PerDev

You are welcome Erin.

I was not in the Workshop but below are the tools I am using to constantly remind me the decisions I taken when I was in higher state of Consciousness.

My goals are not yet clear but I am currently focus on my context only and refining my mental model of reality. then it might refine my Purpose, Goals etc.

Do let me know if you have suggestion for making it more batter and effective.

1. Journal - which is in my PC but not able to see daily, I need to find way
2. White board in my Home which i can see everuday
3. Sticky board - With various drawing like
1. TLP Triangle,
2. My Purpose in Life - Which is similar to Steve but I also have additional values.
3.Urgent vs Important Matrix
4. Self-Fullfilling Prophecy Statements (its more real then reality)
5. Goal Achivement Guidelines - Like Belief Shift, Environment SHift, Identity Shift, Habit shift etc.
6. Actionoutline. - I am really bad at planning ..
7. Some good quote and Poem like Guy in the Glass
and lot of other tool i am using and exploring etc.. I want everything on Auto Pilot .. And want to go with the flow .. You see I am very Lazy

[ellie]

$200-300 is not bad, affiliate marketers charge around that much if not more for their products and you have to sift through pages of dodgy spiels to even learn about a product. We already know what Steve is about, and the type of content he provides. I think I would learn a lot more from Steve's dvd's. I would by it, but at the moment this is not my focus. I'm investing in my own projects...but in the future for sure.