Free Speech in Online Communities: The Delusion of Entitlement (Blog)

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Michelle

Hey! You haven't even seen the movie. How can you possibly enforce this rule?

That's why we're training you as a mod Michelle so you can be enforcing the rule since I'm about to be banished for not having seeing it in the first place .

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by seeker5

That's why we're training you as a mod Michelle so you can be enforcing the rule since I'm about to be banished for not having seeing it in the first place .

Please, Seeker5, DON'T see the movie! It's bad for your mental health! Look at me!

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by seeker5

That's why we're training you as a mod Michelle so you can be enforcing the rule since I'm about to be banished for not having seeing it in the first place .

Now you're talking, Seeker5!

Why haven't you seen it? Do you have something against good ol' American entertainment? Or do all your movies have to be "problem films" in French realism style and have won the Palme d'Or?

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Michelle

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Why haven't you seen it?

A more appropriate question might be why cinemas weren't burned down by enraged audiences after seeing this movie .

Do you have something against good ol' American entertainment? Or do all your movies have to be "problem films" in French realism style and have won the Palme d'Or?

Italian films for me! Scola, Bertolucci, to name a few. But Claude Lelouch made some great movies too.

OK OK I'll stay on topic now in this thread. Promise .

[Erin Pavlina]

Seeker5, please come to the principal's office!

I'll have you all know that me and Steve danced to the theme from the Princess Bride movie as our first dance as husband and wife. It was going to be either that or "Somebody" by Depeche Mode.

YouTube - Somebody - Depeche Mode - by Luh (somebody)

YouTube - Willy Deville - Storybook Love (Unplugged) (princess bride) (starts at 1:30)

[spirit4711]

Depeche Mode! Great song!

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Michelle

Why haven't you seen it? Do you have something against good ol' American entertainment?

You know, I actually don't recall ever having heard of the movie until Steve started mentioning it on this website and on facebook. *shrug*

Maybe we should start the workshop with a showing of the movie to make sure we're all on the same page?

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Seeker5, please come to the principal's office!

Yes m'am!

[Michelle]

It costs like $10 or something. Why not just fork over the dough and buy it?

Or, we could have a Meeting of the Mods and watch it all together.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Scola

Oh! I love Ettore Scola!

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Michelle

It costs like $10 or something. Why not just fork over the dough and buy it?

To me, the idea of buying a movie just to check it out is quite a foreign concept. I've only ever bought about 3 movies total and they were my all time absolute favorite movies. I do rent movies once in a while though so if it's available and I'm inclined to do so, I could rent it.

Or, we could have a Meeting of the Mods and watch it all together.

I like that Have a big mod party where we watch the movie!

[carenkh]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

IAnyway, the movie sucks, and the book is a miracle. Never seen a greater contrast between a book and the movie adaptation.

I LOVE the movie, The Princess Bride. And, I LOVE the book, The Princess Bride. Your assessment that "the movie sucks" might be true in your reality, but it definitely isn't in mine. I prefer mine.

I really enjoyed this article, Steve. Several of the unschooling email lists of which I'm a member moderate posts, until we get to know the writer, and whether or not what they'll be posting fits in with radical unschooling philosophy. It has a lot to do with what they say, obviously, but how they say it also plays a part.

List owners who moderate get a LOT of flack for that: "Oh! Control freak, are you?" etc., etc. But the truth is, the moderated lists have LOTS more valuable content than the unmoderated lists.

People who don't understand (but I thought you unschoolers were open-minded!), are often told their actions are like a meat-eater going to a list dedicated to veganism, and telling the vegans why they're wrong. It's not helpful to further the discussion of veganism - and it's just plain rude.

At one point, I didn't understand that - I thought those moderating owners were close-minded, and judgmental, and how dare they? But the longer I've stuck around, the more I get it, and the more I see how necessary it is.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by seeker5

Yes m'am!

s/Moderator/Banned/g

To all TPB movie fans: I love you all but I sure don't understand you.

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by seeker5

To me, the idea of buying a movie just to check it out is quite a foreign concept. I've only ever bought about 3 movies total and they were my all time absolute favorite movies. I do rent movies once in a while though so if it's available, I could rent it if I was so inclined to do so.

I so admire this. Really. I live with more than a thousand DVDs which IMHO would be better dumped in the river outside. Alas, my husband has other ideas.

I like that Have a big mod party where we watch the movie!

Yep. Would be great. Perhaps we should plan something?

[Brutha]

That's the worst reason to change this forum to a pay forum. We mods do it gladly for free. Requiring people to pay first may mean that thousands of the casual people who stop to this forum to address their issues will not do so. Thus implementing a pay-forum in order to give mods money will mean all those people will no longer be able to get help from this forum.

Paying people creates a different interaction than doing something for free.
I'm not sure that 20€/year/person results in a wage that even minimum wage.
Paying people an amount of money that less than there time is worth sometimes creates more resentment than when those people to that job for free.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by seeker5

Spirit, did you not read the rules of this forum?

I totally want to add that now.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

So ban me .

No... to the pain!

[Steve Pavlina]

@Seeker5: If you're coming to Toastmasters tonight, you can borrow my copy of The Princess Bride DVD. I won't need it since I'm leaving for L.A. tomorrow.

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

@Seeker5: If you're coming to Toastmasters tonight, you can borrow my copy of The Princess Bride DVD. I won't need it since I'm leaving for L.A. tomorrow.

Please, just give the man the movie.

And, Seeker5, I expect a full report ;-).

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

No... to the pain!

Wasn't watching the thing not enough pain?

I am now going to re-read the book for the 51st time and try to forget this discussion.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

@Seeker5: If you're coming to Toastmasters tonight, you can borrow my copy of The Princess Bride DVD. I won't need it since I'm leaving for L.A. tomorrow.

Thanks for the offer. However, I've got classes tonight so I'm not coming to Toastmasters. I'd love to borrow it maybe another time

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

s/Moderator/Banned/g

Hehehe!

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Michelle

Yep. Would be great. Perhaps we should plan something?

I volunteer Steve and Erin's house to be the place where we have the mod party and watch the movie together!

[Erin Pavlina]

I will make popcorn... does anybody want a peanut?

[Brutha]

In addition, a hit order will be issued and you can expect to receive a knock on your door within 24 hours.

Since when do astral being knock at doors, don't they just walk through them?

[NDavid]

Originally Posted by Brutha

If I would go around and insult a strangers I would afterwards feel bad about myself and would want to change my behavior.

Loving someone doesn't mean that you let them get away with bad behavior. Real love is about seeing the best in other people and holding them up to being their best selves.

Man, I love that quote! I think I'm going to apply that mindset to other people and myself. Thanks for the idea :-)

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

I will make popcorn... does anybody want a peanut?

I would be up for flying somewhere if I had a couple months advance notice. I'm also more than willing to be the hostess! We have a big tv and two available couches.

[aelle]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

It was going to be either that or "Somebody" by Depeche Mode.

Depeche effing Mode? You cannot imagine how much respect I've lost for you right now.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

I will make popcorn... does anybody want a peanut?

I will make some raw vegan chocolate balls.

Originally Posted by Michelle

I would be up for flying somewhere if I had a couple months advance notice. I'm also more than willing to be the hostess! We have a big tv and two available couches.

If you come to Vegas, and this is your first time, I'll be glad to serve as your local tourist guide to the city! Otherwise, my next trip to Europe is next summer and I may be able to make my way to Switzerland for the party.

[Jake Birkett]

I agree with the article, I believe that many people could show each other more respect and politeness.

With that, some constructive criticism; I too believe that the article could have done with editing down to be more punchy and less repetitive. Also it felt like it had a different energy too it that was not entirely positive, which didn't gel with me today. But on other days it probably would be fine. Sometimes I find myself in a very different energy space from someone else, so much so that at that time I feel incompatible and need my own space. I guess that's normal though but does it show intolerance?

Thanks for the continued hints to watch Princess Bride, I still have not seen it and even my colleagues recommend it, so I really ought to watch it sometime soon!