Why Some People Are Better Manifesters Than Others (Blog)

[Steve Pavlina]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

Why Some People Are Better Manifesters Than Others

[Angela]

GREAT analogy!

These forums can be an excellent feedback loop, I think, if you read your own posts with a generous "ear" -- listening for the vibration that you're broadcasting. Its amazing how people will start a thread, and everyone reading it will "hear" and respond to the vibration, the persistent negative thought patterns, the limiting beliefs, the stored-up negative emotion, but the OP will insist that she feels like she's broadcasting a vibration that's exactly attuned with her conscious desires! It's often pretty funny, except that the OP can get pretty frustrated and irritated, like Rumpelstiltsken.

Especially when you're complaining that people aren't hearing you the way you want to be heard, or irritated because people don't understand you, or upset that you're getting a response you don't like, or no response at all -- those are golden moments of feedback loop.

[StacyT]

Great post and so true. It can be very uncomfortable to look at yourself objectively, but what a great way to grow!

[Scott Brandon Hoffman]

That was a great piece of truth there Steve.

I think so many people miss out on the "congruency" piece of having a vibrational mismatch with what they're saying vs how they're feeling or thinking.

The first thing I ever learned about manifesting, was that your thoughts, words, and actions had to be in alignment, if one of those were out of whack, then you most likely were not going to manifest what you say you want.

I'm glad you put that out there, it's a great eye opener for people to be aware of, and it can also be a HUGE game changer in how things manifest in your life.

Thanks for sharing!
Scott

[Armen]

This is solid material as usual. I learned from seeing myself in video, and also from various recordings I have done. The point about having others report on us is something great as well, because they tend to point out things we completely miss. When you ask someone for feedback on one of your qualities or personality traits, what they tell you sometimes causes large surprise. This process has more relevance for individuals who have a presence online but don't exude the same presence offline, because they can then find out where the disconnect is and work to correct it.

[Steve Pavlina]

Running a business is one way to generate a lot of feedback too, albeit of a less personal nature. I remember how interesting it was when I first started distributing my own computer games, and feedback started coming in from people who played them. Better still was to invite friends over and watch them play the games in front of me. It was very revealing and helped me become a better game designer over the years. The highest quality feedback, however, usually came from experienced gamers or other game designers as opposed to casual players.

[Armen]

That is true. You hear how people respond directly to your business decisions and not to your character. It provides that valuable sense of "the other side of the table".

I have thought about this regarding hygiene and various activities we do. Getting feedback on if we are brushing right, or shaving right, or showering properly could be eye-opening. Then there are elements like whether we could be walking or running in a more proper way, or if our clothes send off the wrong message, like darker clothes sending less of a positive/welcoming message than matches our internal attitude.

Your point about highest quality feedback makes sense there, since a dentist would be the most valid resource for proper tooth-brushing, or a chiropractor would be the most valid resource on if our posture and activities support a healthy spine.

Internet connectivity is providing numerous specific feedback sites for various issues for those who are pro-active and searching for them.

[Andrew Brunelle]

Very interesting post, Steve. A lot of food for thought. That singing analogy is perfect for those who believe they are putting out the correct vibration, but cease to get the results they are looking for. I believe I am one who falls into this category myself. I'll give those exercises a try and see if the video or audio shows me something about myself that I'm either not willing to accept or am completely ignorant of.

[AlwaysLearning]

For years, I thought I had the LoA under control (though, back then, it was just called "positive affirmations"). And indeed, many areas of my life were oozing with abundance like I was a rockstar. But the biggest scarcity-- my nonexistent lovelife-- was completely invisible to me. I was in total denial there!

[amj]

This blog made a lot of sense and it gives me a course of action that I can take. Good stuff

[borisg]

Last year my band and I played a gig at this bar in Santa Monica. After the show we were high fiving ourselves about what a great show it was. I think I said, "wow we haven't played live in six months and we blew the crowd away".

Fast forward six weeks later, the band's vocalist and I are reviewing the video from that performance. What a joke! We sounded terrible, and our physical performance sucked. How can five human beings be so wrong about something that just transpired 5 minutes beforehand?

Mass delusion? This article reminded me of how important it is to really create opportunities where we can review in a true objective manner the important events in our lives.

I think everything in life deserves this feedback loop.

Thanks for writing this Steve

[Manomanman]

It really is amazing how we can't see (literally and metaphorically) our own flaws. It's amazing how much you can pick up from an outside source of information.

Stevepavlina.com is not essentially different from a videotape in the sense that they both reflect things back to you. The main difference is that you can filter your reaction to his writing through your perception, whereas looking at a videotape it's you, literally right there.

Good lord, we're going to see an explosion in LoA manifestations once this gets out!!!

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by AlwaysLearning

For years, I thought I had the LoA under control (though, back then, it was just called "positive affirmations"). And indeed, many areas of my life were oozing with abundance like I was a rockstar. But the biggest scarcity-- my nonexistent lovelife-- was completely invisible to me. I was in total denial there!

How did you increase the visibility there to make progress in that area?

I know a lot of people make big strides by having someone else watch them interact with the opposite sex.

[Steve Pavlina]

Here's an idea. What if people who were struggling with a certain problem area could record a short video of themselves talking about the changes they want to manifest and post it for others to review and comment on?

Then people could give feedback on whether or not they think the person is a congruent match for manifesting that change... or they could share what seems off about it and give suggestions for what to work on.

It might take some courage to do this, but I'll bet that those who did it would gain a lot from it.

I normally find it very easy to spot limiting beliefs when people who are financially challenged talk about money... or when people who want to make a career change talk about their new career possibilities.

[Mattyyy]

This article actually resonated with me a lot, probably because I'm a musician/entertainer myself, so I can easily see how the feedback loop works.

I wanted to add that the person you're receiving the feedback from matters, sort of along the same lines of what Steve said about game development.

For example, I know when I play certain pieces of music to different people, I can get wildly different interpretations of the same piece. A performance might sound 'just okay' to me, 'absolutely amazing!' to an audience member, and 'you play this wonderfully but it's lacking in emotion, what's going on here?' to my piano teacher. Each person reveals a little bit of different information, which adds to the entire picture of what I can improve on.

And if you're curious, the feedback I got from the piece I was describing allowed me to arrange this piece right here! Neat, huh? I'm very happy with the piece, I've gotten nothing but great comments about it, and my piano teacher would approve as I took in all of her suggestions from my past arrangements.

I notice that when everybody starts giving me the feedback to the same show I put on (lower level feedback, higher quality feedback, my own feedback), that's when I get into the 'zone' and the performance quality as a whole skyrockets. I can easily see how this fits into the personal development aspect of everything.

The Catch 22 of getting into that LoA 'zone' is the fact that you have to consciously improve on everything once you're aware of your mistakes and limiting beliefs, at least before you let your brain go on autopilot. Tackle that problem and solve it ASAP.

I love an old quote from a piano teacher I took lessons from: Practice doesn't make perfect. It makes permanent. If you don't change a mistake as soon as you know about it, the more embedded it becomes with further repetition, and the more work it is to fix later. I notice this is especially true with limiting beliefs I've had and for becoming a vibrational match for what I want. The longer I let myself live a falsehood once I recognize it, the more of a pain in the ass it is to reverse later. The trick is to figure out what falsehoods I'm living - which is where Steve's article and what I shared comes into play.

This post probably went into too many different tangents, but I hoped it helped out somebody.

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

I normally find it very easy to spot limiting beliefs when people who are financially challenged talk about money... or when people who want to make a career change talk about their new career possibilities.

Should we post them up on Youtube and link them in this thread? I'm in. I will speak in person about my desired career changes that I alluded to in my thread on this forum.

P.S. Your playing touched me Mattyyy. I hope you're marketing yourself well.

[Armen]

I look forward to seeing that Manomanman. That is a great idea. I was thinking about pointing out an option like that.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

Should we post them up on Youtube and link them in this thread? I'm in. I will speak in person about my desired career changes that I alluded to in my thread on this forum.

YouTube is fine. You can always remove the video once you've gotten all the feedback you desire.

[theonlyguy]

Hey I always thought the perfect feedback loop was the results in your life!! Look at your life results, what are they? That's what you've been vibing.

If you're wanting money, is your bank account or income growing or shrinking? It's pretty clear I think, just look at your bank account now vs. one to three months ago--your answer is right there, clear as day.

I still think it's a fantastic idea to have people watch you talk, especially those who have attained what you want. They'll definitely give you some insight into your beliefs if you're struggling.

[Manomanman]

Let's put your blog idea to the test

YouTube - Career Aspirations of a Grad Student

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Here's an idea. What if people who were struggling with a certain problem area could record a short video of themselves talking about the changes they want to manifest and post it for others to review and comment on?

Great idea.

One problem with watching yourself talk about the problem is that if you're not a vibrational match for what you want, how can you know by watching yourself that you're not a vibrational match? You Steve can tell if someone isn't a vibrational match for financial abundance because you've been through the difference so you know the difference. But someone who doesn't know the difference may have a hard time judging themselves. I know I would. However, this is all theory for now. I'd love to hear of people successfully using it. I may do it myself too to test how well it works.

In the meantime, it's a great idea to have people post their video, and to see the comments. I'm not going to do that myself, but I think it'll be a learning experience to see how you decide whether someone is a vibrational match or not based on the video.

[Manomanman]

Originally Posted by seeker5

I'm not going to do that myself, but I think it'll be a learning experience to see how you decide whether someone is a vibrational match or not based on the video.

Try it and let's see! Click on my link and be sure to leave a comment.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

Try it and let's see! Click on my link and be sure to leave a comment.

I don't want to comment on the video as that means I have to create a seeker5 account. I'll put my comments here. If we start having a lot of people link to their videos, perhaps we can create threads on the forum for those who want to comment but don't want to create youtube accounts. I think it's good to have the comments being made public.

My reaction: Almost 6 minutes! I don't know if I the patience to listen to it for that long, sorry, I have a very short attention span for online videos and actually normally dislike sitting in front of my computer watching someone talk. However, I did listen to the first minute and a half though. It's interesting you spent the first minute describing what you don't want though, I think it's telling. I would guess you can't be a vibration for what you want if when you think about talking about your career aspirations, you first start talking about what you don't want and what the other people around you want and how you don't want what they want. Hmmm, that's what I do too when I talk about my career aspiration...! But I know I'm not a vibrational match for my career either yet.

[Declan JJ Lestat]

AWESOME STUFF! Both in the blog and in these comments.

(Sorry it's not more constructive, but hey - it's from the heart!)

[andersonx]

This was the most awesome blog post that I have ever read on Steve Pavlina. It gives me something practical that I can immediately go out and implement.

My entire life is basically an experimental feedback loop, and my passion is being able to continually evolve and hone myself in this continual shower of both joyful, wonderful and sometimes painful and unbearable feedback.

I love the truth, especially when it exposes things I can acknowledge I didn't want to see. I expect this filming process is going to expose a lot, and jumpstart my growth.

I'm rushing out to buy a digital videocamera ASAP. Thank you Steve.

[windsorspirit]

Awesome article! Thanks, Steve.

'The tape never lies.'

Performance recordings reveal the truth of the performance.

[cacheborn]

Very useful insights into LOA.
The analogy with singing brings out the truth. It's exact.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

Let's put your blog idea to the test

YouTube - Career Aspirations of a Grad Student

Here's my feedback on your video:

You have a lot of passion about what you're talking about. It's clear you're excited about both music and AI. You bring a lot of energy to both subjects in your language. That's excellent.

It's also clear you've been giving your career path a lot of thought. You were able to share some specifics about what you wanted to do. Again excellent.

You started out by talking about the path that you didn't want to take, as if there was an external expectation for you to follow it. That's a warning sign. It indicates that you still have some concern that this is where you may end up if you're not careful... or that you may be forced into it. If you're committed to your dreams, there's really no good reason to begin by talking about what you don't want.

You talked about two different potential paths -- music and AI. You described those paths in a way that makes them seem incompatible. You didn't share an idea of how to integrate both into a singular path, or to tackle them one at a time. So this suggests that you're undecided and that your focus is split between the two. That could mean you'll make little progress on either due to indecision.

I can relate to this latter part because I faced a similar tough decision after I graduated college. I was trying to decide whether I should go on to grad school and get a Ph.D in computer science (AI) or to start my own software business and go the entrepreneurial route. I was undecided for months, so I made little progress on either path. Finally I committed to starting a business and let go of the Ph.D idea, and lots of action flowed from there.

You talked about both music and AI as if they were dreams, not reality. Your body language (leaning forward, small gestures, taking up little space) suggests a dream/fantasy rather than a vision of a future reality you're in the process of making real. It suggests more hope than confidence. Watch a video of Steve Jobs talking about Apple's latest creations, and then compare it to yours. I'll bet you'll learn a lot from it.

You talked about your dreams primarily in terms of yourself and in terms of ideas that inspire you. I didn't see any mention about turning them into value for others. Who would care to listen to your music? Who would benefit from your AI pursuits? This "I want to do it because it's cool" mindset is really common in academia because students are usually insulated from real world economic realities. There's nothing wrong with doing what excites you -- by all means you should. But based on your video, I'd predict that you'll have a hard time turning your dreams into a sustainable cashflow, which may push you to settle for having your dreams as side hobbies while you take on other work (perhaps the no-nos you mentioned in the beginning of the video) to pay the bills.

You talked about wanting to do things that are new and exciting and "definitely not boring." You talked about wanting to maintain complete creative control. You're obviously very bright. I think you have the intellect to do some amazing things in either field. What I see in these videos is that you may be lacking the groundedness to turn your dreams into reality. The real key there is to focus on providing serious value for others as an integral part of your vision. That will draw a lot of help to you -- financial help, social help, etc.

Your physical appearance looks very much like a grad student. And actually that isn't a bad look for a rockstar or an AI visionary, although for the rockstar route, you may want to spice it up a bit for performances, but obviously this wasn't a performance video. I'm not seeing too much rockstar in your mannerisms though. I see more congruency on the AI side.

When you talked about being a rockstar, your vision was more clear. You were more specific about it. The AI side was fuzzier. You didn't seem as clear on what specifically you were going to do. You talked more about what you wanted to be immersed in.

My top two suggestions would be:

1) Generate more clarity about what you're going to create. Do you want to go the music route or the AI route? Do you want to integrate both together (develop AI that composes rock music... or write hit songs about AI to prepare the world for what's coming)? Do you want one to be primary and the other secondary (AI visionary by day as primary focus, amateur musician by night as a hobby)? Write out what your typical day will look like 5 years from now. Be as specific as you can.

2) Think about how your goals can provide value to others. Why will people care about your work? How will you fund it? How will you generate cashflow from it? How will you make your dreams financially sustainable?

Incidentally, I wrote the above before reading anyone else's comments since I didn't want to be influenced by them. But it's interesting that seeker5 and I both picked up on the fact that you started out by talking about what you don't want.

I should start a side business doing YouTube readings.

[spirit4711]

Great blog post indeed.

What I like Manomanman, is your courage in putting yourself up for feedback. With that you attracted almost immediate feedback from the man himself (yes that's you Steve ). LOA + courage = results you want.

Now, where did I leave my courage - it suddenly disappeared?

[Aybee]

Hello everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster here. I really liked the idea of creating a video of an area that you're working on, so I did that here:

Manifesting Health

I also did a video of an area that I am feeling better about, for contrast

Manifesting Language Fluency