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Savage · 08-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

How to Network With Busy People ? Part 11

Albalida · 08-10-2009, 11:58 AM

Oops. Wow. Thanks!

Is the self-effacing padding equally insubstantial as flattery? I should think if you have something good to say, don't keep quiet-- but, are busy people likely to tire of "I really admire your work in..." or "You rock!" etc.?

Thomas · 08-10-2009, 02:27 PM

Wonder how many more parts there'll be.. (I've printed the article so far and am way beyond the 20 pages or so). ;-)

Savage · 08-10-2009, 03:14 PM

There's one more part to go in this series, twelve parts total.

jesstucker · 08-10-2009, 05:41 PM

I noticed that Steve was using some PUA language in this article. When are we going to get some PUA/polyamorist perspective Pavlina style?

Ajit Odedra · 08-10-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jesstucker

I noticed that Steve was using some PUA language in this article. When are we going to get some PUA/polyamorist perspective Pavlina style?

We already have it with this "networking" series and his previous polyamory posts

bluedragon · 08-10-2009, 09:06 PM

I loved this post, very articulate!

I would definitely never begin by apologizing... I kind of figured this one out by myself. If I were to write you an e-mail, Steve, i would include the "point" in the first 5 words, if possible. I would actually be more concerned that you wouldn't read past the fifth word, than that I could "bother you". I mean, someone writing a whole paragraph about why he doesn't want to bother you would be bothering you in itself, and if someone doesn't realize that, I think you're right in deleting that message. Although low self esteem people can also be great people, but not necessarily great contacts for you, especially if they actually want to do some business.

jesstucker · 08-10-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajit Odedra

We already have it with this "networking" series and his previous polyamory posts

yeah not really

dennisgorelik · 08-10-2009, 10:56 PM

That's nice to see that Steve follows his own advice and posts shorter articles.

LeahBelle · 08-10-2009, 11:56 PM

My favorite part was about not putting people on pedestals. The next time I'm in the elevator with my CEO I'm going to chat with him like he's already my good friend, instead of my usually silly stammer about the weather.

ellie · 08-12-2009, 11:23 AM

Gosh. God damn it I just sent out a email recently contacting a freelance developer I wanted to hire and waffled on... no wonder they didn't contact me back and I thought I knew better than that!

Great advice and will make me much more aware of what I write.

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Savage Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,988	How to Network With Busy People ? Part 11 (Blog) Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog: How to Network With Busy People ? Part 11

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Thomas Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 164	Wonder how many more parts there'll be.. (I've printed the article so far and am way beyond the 20 pages or so). ;-) Last edited by Thomas; 08-10-2009 at 02:30 PM.

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Savage Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,988	There's one more part to go in this series, twelve parts total. __________________ Steve Pavlina www.StevePavlina.com Join me on: Twitter \| Google+

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dennisgorelik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4	Steve's posts became shorter too That's nice to see that Steve follows his own advice and posts shorter articles.

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08-10-2009, 11:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Albalida Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 182	Oops. Wow. Thanks! Is the self-effacing padding equally insubstantial as flattery? I should think if you have something good to say, don't keep quiet-- but, are busy people likely to tire of "I really admire your work in..." or "You rock!" etc.?

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jesstucker Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 16	I noticed that Steve was using some PUA language in this article. When are we going to get some PUA/polyamorist perspective Pavlina style?

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bluedragon Family Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,370	I loved this post, very articulate! I would definitely never begin by apologizing... I kind of figured this one out by myself. If I were to write you an e-mail, Steve, i would include the "point" in the first 5 words, if possible. I would actually be more concerned that you wouldn't read past the fifth word, than that I could "bother you". I mean, someone writing a whole paragraph about why he doesn't want to bother you would be bothering you in itself, and if someone doesn't realize that, I think you're right in deleting that message. Although low self esteem people can also be great people, but not necessarily great contacts for you, especially if they actually want to do some business.

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LeahBelle Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 6	My favorite part was about not putting people on pedestals. The next time I'm in the elevator with my CEO I'm going to chat with him like he's already my good friend, instead of my usually silly stammer about the weather.

08-12-2009, 11:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
ellie Family Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,432	Gosh. God damn it I just sent out a email recently contacting a freelance developer I wanted to hire and waffled on... no wonder they didn't contact me back and I thought I knew better than that! Great advice and will make me much more aware of what I write.

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