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Old 07-03-2009, 01:25 PM
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Now see, the idea that any entity could capture me doesn't sit well with me. From what I understand a true light entity would never do that, but I digress- I feel safest when I am empowered. If I can control a situation (in this case, an entity) or I can keep myself out of harm's way then I'm calm.
I believe that nothing can break your freedom of choice without your agreement. You can be deceived, but everything is still by your choice. It's you who open the door (for instance, by staring at a sigil )

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I don't think you understand what I meant. Light or dark, you're toying with energies you don't fully comprehend. There's no way to eliminate risk, especially when you're starting out. No doubt entities will try to prey on your ignorance or break your focus so they can take advantage of you. Erin has talked about some situations like that. And that's my point- nothing is absolutely safe unless you use your head.
True. However, I believe that when you're in the vibrational state of love, you repel dark entities naturally.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:31 PM
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Thanks for the interesting topic and the competency to answer (Erin, Asmoday and others).

I hope you can answer my questions (or if you have them answered already, please point me to reference material you have - it will be perfectly fine.).

1) If Jesus Christ is not the God but just an ascended master, why do church exorcists do the best job banishing demons?

2) How can a high level demon kill you if our real selves are safe and the material world is just a matrix-like simulation? Can such a demon capture your soul (not just kill your body), send it to hell and torture it forever (as religions tell us)?

3) Are those beings separate from our "we are all one" collective consciousness or they are parts of it? How could it be if they are still creations of our collective "soul"?

4) Can they actually transform (evolve?), become a human soul and incarnate? Can a human soul become a demon or a similar being, light or dark?

5) How to summon a light entity?

The final set of questions seems to be the most important for me:
6) How to summon fairies? Are they light or dark? Are there other spirits of nature (like elementals or guardians?)

1. Church exorcists believe wholeheartedly in what they're doing and they are trained. It's their expertise, and their devotion that make them most capable of exorcising. Plus, we don't know how capable others would be since most people don't become exorcists as professions. Belief and confidence, power and authority are necessary for exorcists to have.

2. A high level demon could sever the connection you have with your physical body. If a high level demon took your soul, you would still be within the confines of the matrix. The only way out would be through angelic help.

3. They are conscious creations of our fear instead of our light. But these are not gnats that bother and nitpick. they are conscious beings capable of directed conscious action.

4. I can't see a demon becoming human. I could see a human falling so far into fear that he may act like a demon but I don't think he would actually transmute into one.

5. Calling out to an ascended master, an angel, or Source with the intention of seeking help is usually enough. Sometimes people feel they are not worthy of such saving. That's the real shame.

6. I am not personally familiar with fairies or elementals but probably others around here are.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:13 AM
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Erin, thanks a lot for your answers! I appreciate a lot that despite you're very busy, you have capability to answer our questions. Maybe you should write a book sharing your spiritual experiences and knowledge in that area? I would definitely read it.

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1. Church exorcists believe wholeheartedly in what they're doing and they are trained. It's their expertise, and their devotion that make them most capable of exorcising. Plus, we don't know how capable others would be since most people don't become exorcists as professions. Belief and confidence, power and authority are necessary for exorcists to have.
That's what I thought. I recall a cyberpunk RPG about a vampire as the main character (who searches for the cure). My favorite method of killing was by biting. But I couldn't bite any holy knight by some reason I was not aware of. Then I looked at the combat log and saw something like "The knight breaks vampire grip due to his faith skill". Looks like the same is in real life too

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2. A high level demon could sever the connection you have with your physical body. If a high level demon took your soul, you would still be within the confines of the matrix. The only way out would be through angelic help.
So it's like you're stuck between two worlds? And the angelic help will follow eventually for sure, right? Is there any "service" who maintains natural balance and integrity of the worlds?

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Anyone? Please!
I personally heard that you must be very calm, quiet and innocent if you want a fairy to appear in front of you. That they're very scary, and appear mostly to children.
Seems like it's easier for me to summon a succubus, not a fairy - my sex energy is very strong, that's must be why fairies don't show up. However I am too "lightworking" for a succubus, so they don't show up too...

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Wow, you guys are quite open minded.
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