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Old 01-18-2007, 08:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In another thread, I was surprised to hear that people were intimidated by the "Smart People" tag on StevePavlina.com. I thought that maybe it needs its own thread, both because of the reactions people have to it, and because nobody seems to interpret it the way I do.

I think it's empowering. And this is what it comes down to:

When you buy a book that says it's for dummies, what are you calling yourself? A dummy!

Do you really want to go through life labeling yourself as a dummy? By creating a site that's for smart people, not dummies, StevePavlina.com allows its readers to have a shred of self-respect.

And as you'll find in many topics regarding personal development, negative self affirmations -- calling yourself fat, ugly, or stupid (a "dummy") -- do nothing but hold you back.

So don't be intimidated by the label -- embrace it!

For reference, below is part of Steve's reasoning behind using the "Smart People" tag.

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My favorite marketing strategy is to look at what everyone else is doing and then do the opposite, but this of course can only be done with integrity if you actually believe the opposite is better. That’s why I like the idea of using the phrase “for Smart People” in the title — it positions the other books in this field as being “for Dummies” or “for Complete Idiots.” Personally I’d rather have a lot of smart people as customers than a lot of dummies — this worked very well for my logic puzzle games business. Smart customers are more demanding, but they’re usually a pleasure to support because they’re more capable.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Elainevdw, that's funny! One of our society's taboos: don't raise yourself up too high, or you'll get your head cut off. It's interesting that the Brights are being criticized for their choice of name -- that they're arrogant for calling themselves "bright" which implies that others are "dim." Which is ridiculous, really; people who are not "gay" are not "glum", they're "straight." (or something. you pc purists.)

Maybe we should come up with a replacement for "dummies" -- those who are not "smart" are..... hmmmm, what? "Personal Development for People Who Can't Be Bothered"? Too long. "Personal Development for Britney Spears"? Too judgemental. ahh, how about "Personal Development for Most People"?
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Because it is Personal Development for Smart People, I have always wondered how Steve made money through advertisement... Would a smart person ever click on the ads? (or am I making a weird logical reasoning?)
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The slogan is just a positioning statement. I.e. if this is "PD for smart people" then what's everything else?

The fact that it's a bit odd makes it more memorable. I'd rather have some people not like it than have no one remember it.
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While I have found the title to such series slightly annoying, they never bothered me.

Having plowed through stacks of reading where the concepts were relatively simple, but made difficult to grasp by unnecessarily complicated or poor writing I thought the idea behind such series was a good one. That is, give the same information, explain the same things, but do it well and simply.

I try to not to use these books because they are usually too elementary. After reading one I will feel like I have not learned enough and that I want another more thorough introductory book.

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Hmm, this is funny. I've never been bothered by the Smart People tag. In fact I find it enticing and very empowering too!

Guess we're one bunch of men and women with healthy self-esteem ya
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I never thought a whole lot about it other than hoping it might keep out the dummies...

But then I remembered they usually think they're smart, so probably not!
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I never thought a whole lot about it other than hoping it might keep out the dummies...

But then I remembered they usually think they're smart, so probably not!
Hehe, so true!

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When I first found Steve's site (last summer) I read many of the articles without noticing what the site was called. Then when I read the tittle "Personal Development for smart People" it made me feel smart, because I liked Steve's writing style. It's not like in those typical American self-help books that insult your intelligence and try to explain things like you're a child. I sometimes find it almost painful to read them, because I feel like they're written for idiots.

I like that, for most part, Steve writes like an intelligent person to another intelligent person. Well, of course there is little bit of that "American writing style" in it, but so much that it would bother me as much as most books/sites do
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I've seen what you're talking about on this forum, Elaine, with regard to peole taking exception to the "Smart People" tag. I don't get it either and agree with you that it's more empowering, as if Steve was complimenting you for taking an interest in this site. The only thing that comes to mind to explain those who don't like it is that possibly they're in the midst of a self-deprecating or overly skeptical mindset to begin with and they percieve the "Smart People" tag as being sarcastic and insulting. I still don't get it, though.
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For reference, below is part of Steve's reasoning behind using the "Smart People" tag.
Well, in another article the definition Steve is using goes (something) like this:

Person: Wow, PD for Smart People. Am I smart?
SP: Generally, if you have to ask.. you are not.
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Person: Wow, PD for Smart People. Am I smart?
SP: Generally, if you have to ask.. you are not.
Person: Wow, a joke. Do I have a sense of humor?
SP: If you have to ask, try some alcohol first.
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Person: Wow, a joke. Do I have a sense of humor?
SP: If you have to ask, try some alcohol first.

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