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Old 01-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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StevePavlina.com Podcast #018 - Faster Goal Achievement
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:42 PM
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Well, I've listened to the record and now I'm very interested what side effects should be introduced to my life to shift identity. My goal is to start an entartaining on-line business. So I'm stuck a little. I've never started or owned anything like that and that's why I can't figure out how it feels or maybe what physical side effects it has.
So it would be great if someone tells me what changes in thoughts, feelings or physical component he has after starting some kind of (but not very complex one) on-line business.
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:25 PM
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Start with the simplest, easiest, most obvious changes. Once you complete those, you'll get plenty of ideas for what to do next.

When I switched from game dev to PD for my primary career, I cleared the game programming books off my bookshelf and filled the shelves with PD books. I canceled my gaming industry magazine subscriptions. I deleted my web browser bookmarks to gaming sites and replaced them with a few PD links.

I kept looking around my life and asked, "What do I see that's incongruent with being a PD professional?" Then I replaced it with something congruent. It was actually a lot of fun. I felt like I was trying to cover up a crime scene by destroying the evidence and planting new evidence. The new evidence reinforced the new identity and kept me looking forward instead of backwards. Obviously it worked.

There's an old article on this concept here about how to use your environment to create these identity shifts:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...of-your-goals/

As I continue to progress with the MDE, I keep asking, "What do I see that's incongruent with being a millionaire?" I still see a lot of changes I need to make in this area, but one by one they're getting done.
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:51 PM
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very cool podcast! this also fits with the 'smile first and then you'll be happy' psychological principle.

horray!
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Hi!

Very interesting podcast, and I believe it will work. I started thinking about some side-effects after losing 20 pounds, but nothing came to mind.
Any suggestions anyone?

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Old 01-07-2007, 07:55 PM
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I think one of the tricky things is, when we ask ourselves "how will I feel when I have/achieve ____?", we're likely to immediately think "happier, of course", without really thinking through all the details.

That's why it becomes easier, for example, to get into a relationship when you are conscious that it won't solve all of your problems, and that there will be some work involved, sacrifices, etc. -- because then you're really thinking like someone who knows what a relationship is like.
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Although I haven't yet been able to do it with consistency, feeling as or acting as if I were financially independent makes me much more open to financial opportunities. There's an immediate shift, almost as if I've been hoisted up onto a playing field I've always felt that I don't belong at. But this only lasts for a half an hour or so, usually -- maybe thinking about the side effects will help with the consistency (start worrying about capital gains tax, perhaps)

Another effect I notice is that I feel much more generous and more willing to help others (in every way, not just financially.) So this is actually very relevant to being a better person in the present moment, independent of the goal being achieved or not.

btw., I recommend The Millionaire Next Door and The Millionaire Mind by Thomas Stanley -- both are a down to earth and glamourless look at the wealthy, lots of talk about frugality and the habits of millionaires in various situations (shopping for shoes, etc.)
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:13 PM
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I find it best to work on the environmental changes first vs. trying to make an identity change by remembering to think about it: changing books on your bookshelf, changing what you carry in your wallet, changing web bookmarks, etc. Then every day you'll see something that reinforces the new identity, whether or not you consciously think about it.
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:35 PM
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I've listened to this podcast and found it to have great info that I really hadn't thought of before.

I understood about becoming a vibrational match to whatever it was that I was trying to do. And before listening to the podcast I was doing "ok" with the manifestations. But nothing more than I was use to, only a little faster in the manifesting.

This has helped me to see how I am looking at money in a different light. And will be making some changes accordingly

Thanks Steve!
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What if the goal is not about yourself only?

I guess it involves some subjective reality work.. How do you do it if besides adjusting yourself to a goal you also have to adjust someone else?

Like your business' co-worker. Or that girl you fell in love the first time you saw. Or your poker opponent mind's when your would-be flush turns into a pair of two's.
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FYI
I tried a great side-effect of losing weight: do all movements a bit faster than normal: walk faster, put on your shoes faster, do the dishes faster etc.
It's a side-effect with side-effect: you'll feel much better as well
When I entered the office this morning, people asked me what had changed, not noticing I moved a bit quiter :-)
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I loved this podcast, Steve! I was nodding here at different points, at things I could already relate to from personal experience (coincidentally mainly regarding money and weight loss) and also at things I've been trying to make sense of and hadn't yet come to a full understanding. I got almost all the answers I was looking for in this podcast. This identity shift concept is simple to understand, yet it's incredibly powerful and it makes ALL the difference!

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What if the goal is not about yourself only?

I guess it involves some subjective reality work.. How do you do it if besides adjusting yourself to a goal you also have to adjust someone else?

Like your business' co-worker. Or that girl you fell in love the first time you saw. Or your poker opponent mind's when your would-be flush turns into a pair of two's.
I asked myself the same question, when applied to objective reality. I'll give this some more thought. I guess with the LoA in mind, you'd attract the right circumstances, maybe your co-worker would be transferred to a different department and the person that comes to be in his/her place would be more in tune with the goal you have in mind, but still I think there are situations in which a specific person is part of the goal itself, there is no goal to begin with without that specific person being part of it, so I don't have an answer to that one just yet. Steve, any insights?

Thanks for the podcast, two thumbs up!
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If you want to change someone else, it means you need to make a corresponding change in yourself to be able to influence the other person.

Focus on the internal change, such as becoming more compassionate, a better listener, more assertive, less fearful of helping others, less attached to others' results, more inspiring, a better example, etc.

What kind of person would you have to become to help this person? What kind of person would have already done it by now?
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That makes sense, thanks Steve. I think this solution can be applied to a number of situations I had in mind with this example - and I particularly like the quote "What kind of person would have already done it by now?". However, in the objective reality model, you might still not be able to reach a goal if it highly depends on someone else changing their mind or attitude, even if you make an identity switch and become the kind of person who would be able to help or influence the other person. But, well, this is just a very specific situation and I think the overall concept is powerful, I don't want to discuss the one exception I could find, when we could be discussing how to benefit from this in so many other situations where the concept works wonderfully. Thanks for answering, though, Steve.
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in the objective reality model, you might still not be able to reach a goal if it highly depends on someone else changing their mind or attitude, even if you make an identity switch and become the kind of person who would be able to help or influence the other person.
That's exactly what I mean.

(I'll talk more when I'm back from class.. a bit out of time now.)
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That fitness example in this podcast really hit home well. "I am" definitely one of those persons who is very athletic and into fitness, and if I were to wake up one morning stuck in the body of a fat guy... I would definitely FREAK OUT a little bit at first, but then I would be totally confident that my "fitness consciousness" would smoothly carry me into physical fitness over time, simply because, inside of my mind, healthy and fit is my very real vision of my physical body... period. Having already done it, I know exactly what it looks like, what it feels like, and what it takes to get there. All of my actions would automatically tie back to that physically fit self-image.

So this podcast makes sense to me... instead of being "the fat guy" financially, socially, etc. I should start building my identity as the rich guy, the cool guy, or whatever else I want to be, and start closing the gap in all the ways Steve mentions.

This is a lot of stuff to play with! And very, very exciting! Thanks Steve!
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I listened to the podcast three times before I went into MS Word and started to journal. I thought about all my goals and asked myself what the side effects would be. Then I spent all day asking myself "What would the me who has achieved *certain goal* do?"

The result? I've gotten a lot of stuff done today and have been in constant states of flow. Has it been easy? Not at all, because I've had to go against old work habits. But it sure has been fun. It's worth the challenge. And I've worked on the activites that will lead to the results I want

I'm committed to this new way of thinking for the next 30 days. I'm not going say "Oh I'll try it" or whatever. I'm doing it. Period. I love the results and I love the process of getting over the resistance.
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Once again, great podcast Steve. Food for thought.

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I tried a great side-effect of losing weight: do all movements a bit faster than normal: walk faster, put on your shoes faster, do the dishes faster etc.
It's a side-effect with side-effect: you'll feel much better as well
When I entered the office this morning, people asked me what had changed, not noticing I moved a bit quiter :-)
johnp: This is a really good idea. After I set my primary focus on health and losing weight this year, I started doing this too, but unconsciously. But at best, it has been only random and inconsistent. Now that you've mentioned it, I can start doing this consciously and much more often.

I've started a thread called 'Side Effects of Losing Weight' where we can brainstorm possible side effects.

Have fun!
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when you mentioned the part about worrying that $200 or other amount is not enough" in your wallet. Are you not beginning to resonate with lack? or not enough? and does this not have the affect of not attracting abundance?
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when you mentioned the part about worrying that $200 or other amount is not enough" in your wallet. Are you not beginning to resonate with lack? or not enough? and does this not have the affect of not attracting abundance?
I see it as a matter of raising my standards. If I was a millionaire and only had $50 in my wallet, it wouldn't feel right to me. Ask a millionaire if $50 is a lot of money. $50 is nothing -- it's a piece of paper.

The issue for me was getting comfortable with carrying more cash and having more money in the bank. At first it felt uncomfortable to carry $200 all the time. It's not that having "only" $200 makes me feel broke -- it's more of an internal signal that I need to go to the ATM. It's just like if your car is getting low on fuel and you need to refill the tank.

Think about how you feel about a $1 bill. Get yourself to feel the same way about $100 bill, and you'll get a sense of what it would be like to have 100x as much money.

I learned that I'm able to earn and keep an amount of money I feel comfortable with. A year ago $100,000 seemed like a lot of money to have in cash. Now it feels normal to have that much. $1 million still feels like a very large sum, so I know that in order to get there, I have to reach the point where I can think of it as normal.
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Steve, this was a great podcast. Basically, I sense that you're saying "BE what it is you want to be, and you'll get there." And I can think of an example similar to your weight example. I get pretty good grades in school, but most of my friends don't. They think that I'm super smart or that I don't have a life and study all the time, neither of which is true (at least I don't think so). The fact is, I attract good grades by being the kind of person I am. The exact characteristics I can't quite put a finger on, but it comes with a lot of confidence, which feeds my competence, providing further feedback to my confidence. And if I suddenly switched spots with a friend who was getting B's and C's, I'd shriek, and immediately set the course to get A's and A+'s. Like you say, it would be hard work (it's not like I do nothing), but wouldn't involve venturing into uncharted territory or fighting balrogs. The actions would come swiftly and naturally, and there'd be no stress. I would take action very matter-of-factly because I know exactly what I need to do. And yet, getting good grades isn't exactly so fine a science that there's a set formula that everyone can follow and replicate.

So when I think about my experience that way, I turn to the other areas of my life where I'd like to improve - socially, financially, romantically, and in some of those areas, I switch places with my friends. They're the ones getting the A's and A+'s, and I'm stuck with B's and C's. I'm sure if someone else landed in my shoes, they'd be hooked up with someone by next week, made several new friends, and started a ceramic cleaning business that generates wads of cash... with time leftover to play Nintendo. To get where these other people are, I need to find out how I'm different from them in my thoughts and attitudes, and try some of them on for size. They may fit easier than I think.
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