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Old 10-27-2008, 05:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Juice Feasting - Day 2
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like your body/subconscious is reacting negatively to both the test and especially the idea of continuing this experiment.

Maybe you're really scared? I'm totally confused at what you might be feeling and are thinking even though you tried to describe it.

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Old 10-27-2008, 07:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It sounds like some repressed feelings are coming to the surface as blocks caused by your diet are disappearing. Even still, does it feel like your empathy is going up or down? You could be accidentally connecting with people and don't know it, sharing their anger and frustrations.

The feast's going to agree with you for sure.

Btw: Did you apologise to the container after you smashed it?
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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some MSM powder mixed in.
Main Stream Media powder!
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh noes!

It seems you're putting some interesting stuff in those drinks that I can't fit under the "juice" category. To me it almost looks like regular raw food, just that everything is in smoothie form or something...
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It's very common to sleep less and a lot lighter when reducing the digestive load of your food intake. Should be normal again after a day or 2.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing your experience from this truly interesting trial Steve! It is always inspirational to read your honest and open articles and this trial looks like a major growing experience, no matter how it goes in days ahead. I wish you best results with this, fingers crossed..
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Steve are you planning to drink juices of bitter gourd and bottle gourd?
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Erin seemed slightly amused by my rapid state changes and handed me a plastic container that had frustrated her because she couldn’t open it. The container itself was disposable — she just needed the (non-fragile) contents inside. I grabbed the container and violently smashed it against the bathroom counter. Then I ripped it open and yanked the contents out. I quickly realized how silly that aggressive display was, and I broke out laughing for a minute while Erin looked perplexed.
Well, at least it's good to see you haven't changed at all.

But more seriously, I applaud such blatant honesty and directness. Most people—myself included—would have been tempted to omit that little story, but then, something powerful would have been lost. For me, that one paragraph was probably the most impactful part.

As someone who's often in the territory of "doing things people would label as crazy," it's nice to see someone do things just as silly and unnecessary as what I sometimes find myself doing when I'm either forging ahead or getting off track.

For example, recently I've been eating a lot more raw (or “rawer” as the Word spell checker suggests with its squiggly green underline ). Then I stopped, and ate less raw. Then I did some crazy things with my sleep.

The result has been a moodier version of myself than I've experienced for a long time. I started to question whether the path was wrong, beginning to identify with these changes and thinking “oh noes, it’s all bad!” but it seemed it has nothing to do with the path at all--it's the position.

Right now I'm kind of hypersensitive, and it's taking a while to get used to that. It’s as if I got an awareness upgrade from eating more raw (rawer), and it’s not going away. For the first time, like, ever, I seem to be feeling my feelings instead of distracting myself with them instead of media or digestion (from eating “heavy” food that takes lots of energy and time to digest).

Usually I feel my feelings—of joy, of peace, of frustration; the list goes on—and then consciously manage or tolerate them, but now they tend to take over to a degree, and I find my mind (or in non-ideal cases, my body) going off on some reactive streak, much like what I experienced after I first read A New Earth and started becoming aware of my conditioning. Kind of scary in terms of a positional standpoint, but so long as you don’t get caught up in that one position on the much larger journey, eventually you reach smoother terrain. At the moment, "smoother terrain" seems to involve me no longer tolerating the things that cause such negative emotions. It's not the negative emotions that are bad, but the patterns and habitual decisions that hold me in environments and situations where I experience things that don't at all resonate with me. In terms of finding smoother terrain, I’ve been finding Karen Knowler’s (paraphrased) advice of “wherever you are, make peace with it; that’s the only way you’ll move forward” from the recent Rawkathon interviews to be helpful (although Karen is pretty helpful in general, but it’s her example that I find most inspiring; she’s like a beacon of light, helping me to navigate to very different territory, but territory that seems to be part of my unfolding desires).

I'm hoping I'll reach more of a middle ground, but as I should know, venturing out into the unknown often has unexpected consequences. It's quite likely that you won't come back from your journey quite the same as you were before, if you even come back at all (you might reach the "other side," which in personal development terms, usually is an island with a bunch of people saying "gratz!" and handing out those flowery Hawaiian necklaces ).

Months ago we might have all wondered why I find Steve smashing a plastic container to bits in a fit of juice-fuelled rage, but now we know it's because there's truth and oneness present. (Man it'd be entertaining to have a few random people from the street read this post, haha.) As you say in your Personal Development for Smart People:

“Where is […] the path that terrifies you, the path that stirs your soul, the path you secretly fantasize about? That’s the path that honours the real you. If you aren’t doing something that scares you and challenges you, you’re playing the game of life too timidly, missing golden opportunities that could make a real difference. If your […] path doesn’t require courage, you’re [on the wrong path].

“The most you can expect of yourself is to do your best. And the best you can genuinely do at this time is to fully embrace oneness, to serve as an example, and to teach others to do the same.”

Sometimes it’s hard to locate “your best” when you’re “fatigued” (read: physiologically altered) from your trail blazing into the unknown, but that’s the point—to do your best, not to “do your perfect.”

I hope one day I’ll be able to express myself as well as Steve without my emotional baggage coming through (because, as I’ve learned, you’re usually never free of emotional baggage; it’s not about freedom from emotion, but about living consciously, honestly, and courageously).

That said, I don't think I'll ever ask Steve to open a jar.

Erin, have you thought of exorcising Steve? He might have a demon.

And if this is just day 2, you may need to consider buying some rope and handcuffs! (And maybe some tranquillisers.)

*Erin edges up to Steve with rope and handcuffs in hand*
"Now Steve, this is for your own good. Apologising to the jar was fair game, but we agreed that if you bought 'I'm sorry!' cards for inanimate objects during your 30-day trials again, we'd have to sedate you. Do you remember what happened to Mr. Cantaloupe?! And stop trying to bribe me with kitchen timers, mister!"

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Old 10-27-2008, 10:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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On a more practical note: Steve--consider buying a punching bag if you don't have one (since you mentioned martial arts).

I have one myself, and while I never really use it to relieve myself of anger or frustration (personal development--or time alone in nature--is better for that), I often feel pretty tranquil after laying a series of combos and jabs into a big sack of rags. (Protective hand gear recommended.)

Sometimes I think you just need to do something with your energy. Some people vent it via anger. Some people create and give. Some people lay right hooks into a sack of rags.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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well...

Juice feasting...no solids...

Weird. But OK.

I still can't give up my Bacon Sandwich haha...
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The result has been a moodier version of myself than I've experienced for a long time. I started to question whether the path was wrong, beginning to identify with these changes and thinking “oh noes, it’s all bad!” but it seemed it has nothing to do with the path at all--it's the position.

Right now I'm kind of hypersensitive, and it's taking a while to get used to that. It’s as if I got an awareness upgrade from eating more raw (rawer), and it’s not going away.
I know what you mean. Last few weeks I have been experimenting with raw food as well, this is my "all raw before lunchtime" trial. First I noticed some considerable gains in energy and higher clarity which was fantastic.. but recently some moodiness and hypersensitivity added up to the mix and I was not ready for that. Sometimes I feel like I would take on all the challenges in the world and the next moment I just want to contemplate in silence. One way or the other it is a kind of learning experience.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Alright, I just have to ask - why would you put garlic into perfectly good pineapple juice?
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Hi Steve!

My favorite juice blend of late has been kale (or spinach) + leafy sprouts (clover or alfalfa or one of the mixes from Sproutpeople) + carrot + red pepper + cucumber + celery + ginger + lime. I use the Vitamix/nut milk bag method to make this.

I have been decreasing the amount of carrot and increasing the greens + sprouts recently as my palate has changed since I started my daily morning green juice. I made an apple/beet/carrot/kale/ginger juice one day, and it was way too sweet! And that was the only way I had originally been able to do the green juice - very very sweet.

Good luck on your day 3! I'm looking forward to your future posts about your juice feasting adventures!

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Old 10-28-2008, 05:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Alright, I just have to ask - why would you put garlic into perfectly good pineapple juice?
lol, asked myself the same thing.
heres one of my favorite juices- papaya+date+carrot
its sweet and yummy
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