Rawkathon - Free Online Raw Foods Seminar (Blog)

[Savage]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

Rawkathon - Free Online Raw Foods Seminar

[Rose of Cairo]

Yay! Just signed up and I'm listening to Gabriel Cousens right now.

Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this, Steve!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you

[Hari.c]

I have just signed up. Will listen tonight. Thanks Steve for sharing it.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Yay! Just signed up and I'm listening to Gabriel Cousens right now.

Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this, Steve!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you

I'm watching his video right now. It seemed to start off a bit slow, but the stuff on biophotons is pretty interesting. He seems to be building a bridge between raw foods with the ability to use the law of attraction more consciously.

I can't believe he's 65 years old and can do 600+ consecutive push-ups.

[MasterD]

There is a lot of s hit going on according to this Mike Adams guy. Probably there is, but I can't filter the truth from the nonsense from his story. According to him the medical industry is one big conspiracy. But anyway, he looks like a positive and healthy guy.

[MasterD]

One fantastic thing he advocates (Mike Adams) is to disqualify anyone from a leading public position who is not on a healthy diet. It's true, I think often the sickness of the diet is reflected in behaviour of the person who is eating the diet. That would be one huge step forward. He even advocates to disqualify people being on pharmaceuticals from a leading public position. I don't know about that one, but there is a lot of symptom suppression going on in the medical world which can easily be cured by a change in diet which will also make the person a more positive and stronger leader.

[Savage]

Finished Gabriel Cousens, now watching Mike Adams. I saw Mike at the Raw Spirit Fest last month -- he's a very passionate speaker. I can totally relate to what he says about raw foods making you feel smarter and more mentally capable. I also like that he recommends an experimental approach to find what works for you instead of blindly following some guru.

Mike runs Independent news on natural health, nutrition and more, an extremely popular health site.

[Rose of Cairo]

Finished Gabriel Cousens. I had a hard time getting what he said. I can understand Steve, Erin or Andrea Hess very well in their podcasts, but this guy has an accent that I almost don't understand. The thing about biophotons was interesting. I'd love to know more about adapting our diet to our body type, too. I guess I metabolize sugar very fast, but my English skills weren't good enough to get what the consequences are.

Now listening to Mike Adams. I already knew the Health Ranger from his website, didn't know he was totally raw. Is he now?

[Savage]

Finished listening to Mike Adams. He said he's about 70% raw.

Gabriel Cousens' session could be hard to understand for people who aren't already well-versed in raw food vocabulary (enzymes, phytonutrients, spiritual aspects, etc). He talked about some fairly advanced concepts that might be hard for a non-raw foodist to relate to.

Mike's session would be much easier for most people to understand since he speaks in a more grounded manner.

Personally I think this is a really cool program. In order to go raw and stay raw, I had to immerse myself in this kind of info until I could grasp what it was all about. Going through this program should give people a great headstart that will shave months off their learning curve.

I'm especially looking forward to Matt Monarch's interview. I only lost about 2-3 pounds after months of eating 100% raw, and when I mentioned that to him at the Raw Spirit Festival, he said I should try colonics. I did two hydrocolonic sessions the following week and dropped 5 pounds in 4 weeks without changing my diet. So it seems he was right about that.

[supertom]

does Gabriel Cousens do those push ups everyday.

[supertom]

anybody have a picture of him without his shirt on, i wanna see his body

[danas]

Originally Posted by MasterD

There is a lot of s hit going on according to this Mike Adams guy. Probably there is, but I can't filter the truth from the nonsense from his story. According to him the medical industry is one big conspiracy. But anyway, he looks like a positive and healthy guy.

I very much agree with what he says about conventional medicine and doctors from personal experience.
From my experience doctors love knives .
they mean good, but although I sometimes go to them (dont know why- guess its what we are taught to do when we have a medical problem), I usually dont take thier advice. especially when it involves a knife ("sorry- we need to operate").
Ive learnt to heal the natural way. Only a month ago I had a bad eye infection
after trying the doctor's medice for 1 day, my eye got worse, so I started putting garlic inside my eye a few times a day- it burnt but it dissapered completely within two days.
My friend whom I was staying with, thought I was crazy to stop the medicine she even said I was so irresponsible and she has no time to take me to the hospital (my eye looked pretty bad)- I told her lets bet that garlic will heal my eye- and I won of course .
Four years ago I couldnt walk at all for 3 months due to a bad knee injury. I went to 4 of the countries top specialists- some with world wide reputation. they all said- if you want to walk again we need to operate.
I said NO!- and started lifting weights to build my muscle and hired a private physio-therapist whom I saw every single day (I could'nt even go to work), btw i was told to do this in a dream.
Within a month I was walking painlessly again until today.
during my childhood I spent a long time in hospital and I can tell you- they love knives! so I know not to take their advice too seriously

[MasterD]

Originally Posted by danas

I very much agree with what he says about conventional medicine and doctors from personal experience.
From my experience doctors love knives .
they mean good, but although I sometimes go to them (dont know why- guess its what we are taught to do when we have a medical problem), I usually dont take thier advice. especially when it involves a knife ("sorry- we need to operate").
Ive learnt to heal the natural way. Only a month ago I had a bad eye infection
after trying the doctor's medice for 1 day, my eye got worse, so I started putting garlic inside my eye a few times a day- it burnt but it dissapered completely within two days.
My friend whom I was staying with, thought I was crazy to stop the medicine she even said I was so irresponsible and she has no time to take me to the hospital (my eye looked pretty bad)- I told her lets bet that garlic will heal my eye- and I won of course .
Four years ago I couldnt walk at all for 3 months due to a bad knee injury. I went to 4 of the countries top specialists- some with world wide reputation. they all said- if you want to walk again we need to operate.
I said NO!- and started lifting weights to build my muscle and hired a private physio-therapist whom I saw every single day (I could'nt even go to work), btw i was told to do this in a dream.
Within a month I was walking painlessly again until today.
during my childhood I spent a long time in hospital and I can tell you- they love knives! so I know not to take their advice too seriously

I agree; they only look at symptoms and then try to suppress them.

However, I don't know what conspiracy theory I have to believe and which one is nonsense. It is easy to make the medical world the bad guys and believe every conspiracy theory against them.

[MasterD]

David Wolfe interesting about demineralization and setting up natural systems to grow perfectly grown organic and highly mineralized food.

However, it becomes far to complicated the way he is presenting it. I believe in a simple approach, he just names 100 things you need and then 100 products he can provide to provide you with those needs. I think he has the same problem as Robert Young, by getting way too scientific and wanting to fix every little detail independently instead of taking a general whole foods approach that will deal with all the problems simultaneously.

Further, the goal setting metaphor, you can only achieve goals that are in alignment with who you really are. I like his spiritual worldview, get in the flow.

[MasterD]

Dr. Doug Graham's talk was awesome, though I knew most of the material he presented.

I don't know, his thinking seems to be so much way beyond everybody elses. Didn't hear Gabriel Causen's talk unfortunately.

He looks like a happy baby :-).

[Savage]

David Wolfe and Doug Graham are practically at opposite ends of the spectrum in the raw foods community, so that's certainly an interesting pairing.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by MasterD

He looks like a happy baby :-).

He just looks youthful!


Reeeeally youthful..

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by MasterD

However, it becomes far to complicated the way he is presenting it. I believe in a simple approach, he just names 100 things you need and then 100 products he can provide to provide you with those needs. I think he has the same problem as Robert Young, by getting way too scientific and wanting to fix every little detail independently instead of taking a general whole foods approach that will deal with all the problems simultaneously.

Isn't this basically biodynamic farming?

[Rose of Cairo]

I really like what Dr. Doug Graham radiates. It's a joy to watch him. He's so peaceful and happy at the same time

My experience doesn't match what he says, though. He said if you get cravings, you aren't getting enough carbs from fruit. Eat more fruit, the cravings will vanish. That's just not the case for me. When I get sugar cravings and I eat more fruit, I get caught in an endless loop of craving - sugar high - crashing - craving - sugar high - crashing - craving... But if I eat more greens, sprouts and fat instead, the cravings just stop. I don't know how greens, sprouts and fat can be an answer to sugar cravings but this is just how it works for me.

Destroys a little bit his credibility in my eyes, although I find him awesome as a person.

Maybe I'm not exercising enough for his diet.

[MasterD]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

Isn't this basically biodynamic farming?

I don't think he actually talks about that, but I think he would advocate that, he is actually talking about growing plants with love :-).

[MasterD]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

I really like what Dr. Doug Graham radiates. It's a joy to watch him. He's so peaceful and happy at the same time

My experience doesn't match what he says, though. He said if you get cravings, you aren't getting enough carbs from fruit. Eat more fruit, the cravings will vanish. That's just not the case for me. When I get sugar cravings and I eat more fruit, I get caught in an endless loop of craving - sugar high - crashing - craving - sugar high - crashing - craving... But if I eat more greens, sprouts and fat instead, the cravings just stop. I don't know how greens, sprouts and fat can be an answer to sugar cravings but this is just how it works for me.

Destroys a little bit his credibility in my eyes, although I find him awesome as a person.

Maybe I'm not exercising enough for his diet.

I have the same and for me it helps to massively up the greens, something what Doug Graham also encourages, in terms of volume you should eat more greens than fruit. In my experience is not necessary to increase the fat intake to fix that.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by MasterD

I have the same and for me it helps to massively up the greens, something what Doug Graham also encourages, in terms of volume you should eat more greens than fruit. In my experience is not necessary to increase the fat intake to fix that.

Hmmm.... It happens even when eating massive amounts of greens. In terms of volume I already eat much more greens than fruit. But eating greens alone isn't enough. Since fruit causes sugar crashing, I need something else to get rassasiated, something heavier than greens. (sprouts and fat)

In fact the only way I can eat fruit is mixed with greens or fat. Fruit alone is already enough to make me crash. I guess I'm particularly sensitive to sugar. And to be really-really honest, I don't like fruit. Especially sweet + acidic fruits like apples totally repel me. Bleh!

Maybe I could eat EVEN MORE greens??

[ChefSalad]

Unfortunately, I missed the first two podcasts. Since I don't like missings things, I did some research. First, I discovered that blip.tv (the hosters of the videos but not the audio) set up convenient rss feeds for all of rssers. The feed is http://rawkathon.blip.tv/feeds/flash . This allows you download the FLV movie to your harddrive so you don't have to use the built in player. A few conversions later (I'll leave that as an exercise for Google), and you can play it on your palm or ipod video or whatever.

I also found a way of getting the mp3 files saved for the same reason (the in-browser players aren't very stable on Linux, so I prefer to stay away). The URL for the mp3's is http:// rawkathon.s3.amazonaws.com/audio/FIRSTNAME%20LASTNAME%20Final%20Rawkathon.mp3 . Just take out the space after http:// and replace the FIRSTNAME and LASTNAME with the appropriate names and you're golden.

There are two downsides to this method of downloading. First, you have to wait until after the live broadcast is complete before the audio links will work.

The rss doesn't allow you to download the movies after you're not supposed to be able to, so I'm not being a butthole here. (Although, the audio links might. I haven't checked yet.) And, my only goal is to help out those who have a hard time with in-browser players. Hopefully I'm not breaking any unspoken rules by posting this.

[Fullcrum]

I am continually disappointed by David Wolfe's invocation of pesudo-science. The description of "Ormus" demonstrated no knowledge of the current knowledge of chemistry and physics. I agree with not knowing the whole story now, but he can't just state that what we know now is "wrong" in terms of chemistry. Besides, volcanoes do not have the energy, temperature, or anything else that we know of that can change elements.

And his labelling of the sun as "male" and earth as "female". Huh?

Can someone explain this nonsense to me. I'm open to it, but damn. What is he talking about?

[WilliWibald]

I also just saw Davids Interview.
What bothers me with what he said, is not so much the airy-fairy-ness of his theories - I got open to this kind of thinking through reading steves site regulary - but that I did feel concerned, that my normal fruits and vegetables are not enough - somehow.
And, voila, there are solutions you can buy. And who sells them? What a coincidence

[Fullcrum]

I do like his stuff on goal setting. Awesome. He likes Tony Robbins. Awesome. He supports the local economies of these farm communities in different countries. Yea. He wants to grow the best food ever. Sweet.

But his theories on how stuff works is just so left field for me. Pavlina acknowledges that there is stuff he does not know openly and often. He takes the "experimenter" route. Wolfe just throws ♥♥♥♥♥ out there. Not fun sometimes. I saw him live in NYC last Thursday. I met many of his people and it was my first raw outing, ever. I was impressed with his breadth of knowledge and enthusiasm, and salemen skills.

Doug Graham is definitely a pleasure to listen to. Simple, concise, and if were supporting superfoods it would not be so annoying to listen to as Wolfe sometimes is.

Nonetheless I listen to them both. I am listening to the Boutenko interview soon.

[Savage]

I loved Victoria Boutenko's interview. I saw her speak at Raw Spirit Fest along with her kids Valya and Sergei. I like that she does her own research to find the truth instead of relying on other experts. I drink green smoothies every day thanks to her.

Her son Sergei gave an awesome talk about wild foods at Raw Spirit Fest, including free samples. He made me look at the weeds in my garden with a whole new perspective.... like, hmmmm... how would that taste in a smoothie?

Today I had some coconut water blended with greens, which was really good.

I'll watch Nomi Shannon's interview tomorrow. Her Raw Gourmet book was one of the first raw cookbooks I bought. I used many of her recipes during one of my early raw food trials (long before I started StevePavlina.com).

[Rudolf]

Thanks for letting me know about this event Steve! I have been experimenting lately, getting more and more raw food into my diet and although I am taking it one step at a time I can already see and feel for myself this has a lot of potential. Rawkathon is an amazing information source for someone who did not even know about raw diet half a year ago. There are not so many events of this kind I could attend in Czech Rep. so I really appreciate this.

Victoria Boutenko was very informative in her interview. I especially liked this: "I think that it is not even as important to be 100 per cent raw as it is important to consume one litre of green smoothie per day, first thing in the morning." Here comes my motivation to definitely try this.. and another thing she said: I believe the truth is always simple and it has to make sense. For me, I have to understand how it works, at least generally.

So very true..

[Savage]

Looking forward to Matt Monarch and Karen Knowler today. I probably resonate with Matt's material more than anyone else. I especially enjoyed his books Raw Spirit and Raw Success. And Karen was extremely funny/witty/remarkable when she spoke at Raw Spirit Fest; I definitely wouldn't miss what she has to say.

One thing that's amazing about Matt is that he went from the SAD diet to 100% raw overnight and never looked back. He just radiates health and happiness.

I've been emailing Matt (and his fiancee Angela Stokes) a lot during the past several days because they're helping me prep for an upcoming 92-day juice feast. More on that later...

[rjani]

I've been watching these "series" in the past few days, and this is this thing that bugs me for a long time now. You see, everyone is talking about how this diet helps you to loose weight so easily and how skinny you become in no time and yet I see that some of the raw foodist (also vegans...) are not so slim, in fact, they're even chubby a little. Here was Victoria Boutenko, for example.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against anyone, I just can't understand why everybody talks about how you loose weight and such, and really, you live on these healthy raw foods, so how can you not loose all the plus kilos?

By the way, thanks for the link Steve, I enjoy the "show", there are a lot of extraordinary characters there, and I can learn a lot from these vids. Very interesting.