Funny Anti-steve website

[digitman]

Lol, I found this site thru a random google search and found it pretty funny. Here are two articles:

How to lose money with your website

Personal development for starving africans

LOL

[RTF671]

That person is clearly lost.

[Sam988]

Lol this is funny stuff!!



From Steve Pavlina is the Devil: "The implicit message contained in Pavlina's writing is that people who work for someone else are either inherently inferior or are brilliant, creative dynamos who've yet to take the leap of self-faith required to fulfill their potential - a cynical ploy by a charlatan who knows full well that most people are just dumb enough to consider themselves intelligent and will hence associate themselves with the latter - a delusion that is cleverly reinforced by the non-coincidence that the page they are looking at happens to be titled "Personal Development for Smart People", and they are, after all, reading it. "

[Ceros]

I wonder whether he is serious, or if he's a darkworker who's trying to intentionally scare people and lower their consciousness?

[Eric Revelin]

He doesn't even manage to be all that witty most of the time. Still, gotta give him an A for effort. Most people wouldn't take a parody/attack site beyond a couple articles.

I doubt he's a darkworker. Most likely he's just a guy with a chip on his shoulder and way too much time on his hands.

[Andrew Brunelle]

This is a really funny website. But it doesn't have enough articles yet. Steve Pavlina is the devil. That's got to be the funniest thing I've read this week.

[DanielBrenton]

Since I didn't start the thread, I can't start a poll here, but I don't think it's particularly funny, so my vote is a "thumbs down."

It would have to be at a much higher level to be funny. I don't care much for mean-spirited humor, and this clearly is.

That kills it for me right there.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by DanielBrenton

Since I didn't start the thread, I can't start a poll here, but I don't think it's particularly funny, so my vote is a "thumbs down."

It would have to be at a much higher level to be funny. I don't care much for mean-spirited humor, and this clearly is.

That kills it for me right there.

I guess you gotta agree with the author a bit to find it funny. I do (not that i agree with the "steve is the devil" thing! but the pic of him smiling broadly and the legend in the pic "Pavlina - The Devil", damn that made me laugh)

[TooTicki]

The Cynic in me couldn´t help but smile at some of the stuff on this page, like:

Since the advent of the internet, thousands of idiots all over the world have spent countless hours at their keyboards typing up rants describing in copious, self-indulgent detail how stupid this or that is, and of the millions of bandwidth sucking web pages they’ve created, not one contains a single word that wasn’t a stupid waste of time.

I know where this guy is coming from as I´ve many times in my life felt that kind of apathy and cynicism. Since cynicism is (i think) the opposite of hope, and personal development is an expression of hope (the hope of changing ones own life into something better) it makes sense that he´d use Steves articles as inspiration and target.

[impaul99]

Yawn.

[ming]

This loser type of character is just hilarious and full of wit and genius.

...'If there was such thing as luck I'd be Steve Pavlina or Tony Robbins, shooting sunbeams out of my ass, making millions selling lies about choice, courage, hard work and success, but there isn't, and even if there was, I'd have none.'

[Kazeko]

People, don't go there. I was expecting to visit a funny site, filled with, at least, intelligent sarkasm or (better) irony... Alas... it's dumb and pessimistic. I'd call it "lame", politely speaking.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Kazeko

People, don't go there. I was expecting to visit a funny site, filled with, at least, intelligent sarkasm or (better) irony... Alas... it's dumb and pessimistic. I'd call it "lame", politely speaking.

No it's not, you just gotta have the right sense of humor to understand it.

[Kazeko]

Originally Posted by Sam988

No it's not, you just gotta have the right sense of humor to understand it.

Don't know... I don't think personally, that sarkasm which involves sayings about rape, AIDS or death from starvation is funny. The site gave me a feeling of getting dirty from it.

I'd like to generalize. There are many famous, "great" people, whom I personally call "sick minds". Good example are Niezsche and Kierkegaard. Last one is a Danish philosopher, "existentialist", and, as Wiki says, "a highly significant and influential figure".

For me, Steve's existentialism is the one which I consider "true". And Kierkegaard just spits poison massively, infecting others (I know some real examples near myself). In the same manner we can call any person with a machine gun "influential", and with an atomic bomb - "highly significant".

And so does the author of that site. His sick humor can't make many people laugh, but can infect many people with bad expectations about personal development. If Steve's site saved at least one person from suicide, that "anti-site" could make right the opposite.

I consider that site dangerous and highly abusive. I would not tolerate it, if I were Steve. Besides, it has Steve's photo published without any permission.

If you want a healthy portion of irony and sarkasm, you better watch some stories about Homer Jay and his family When I went to that site, I was actually expecting something like that...

[DanielBrenton]

Kazeko --

I completely empathize with your point of view.

But ...

Let's say Steve was able to convince the hosting service to wipe that site. The guy would probably just find a host that was less concerned about civility, put it back up, and have some self-righteous ammunition to boot.

(And he is probably reading this thread with deep interest. So we're stoking his pompous ego by mentioning him at all.)

That's my take.

Now, really -- how would you suggest Steve handle this?

[Lehrling]

what a very sad man. kind of makes you want to put on your "awwww" voice, and go "awwww... does somebody feel angwy cuz he's an unsuccessful man who wants to blame it on successful people?"

[DanielBrenton]

Kazeko --

I realized the tone of my comment made it seem like I was asking a rhetorical question. I'm not. I'm really curious.

What do you think should Steve do? How should he handle this?

[Kazeko]

Originally Posted by DanielBrenton

Now, really -- how would you suggest Steve handle this?

Steve can, for example, find a good lawyer and sue that guy for being abusive and offensive in public. (I don't know U.S. and Nevada laws, but I guess there is a way to do it).

(And he is probably reading this thread with deep interest. So we're stoking his pompous ego by mentioning him at all.)

I can be totally wrong, but I think it's the guy who started the thread (digitman). Read his other posts.

And, yes, I think it's enough to discuss it already...

[Lehrling]

Originally Posted by Kazeko

Steve can, for example, find a good lawyer and sue that guy for being abusive and offensive in public. (I don't know U.S. and Nevada laws, but I guess there is a way to do it).


I can be totally wrong, but I think it's the guy who started the thread (digitman). Read his other posts.

And, yes, I think it's enough to discuss it already...

Hmmm... good point. Even the thing about Digitman, but let's not jump to conclusions just yet. I'm pretty sure Steve won't be able to do too much, as of regarding laws, and whatnot.

[digitman]

Originally Posted by Kazeko

I can be totally wrong, but I think it's the guy who started the thread (digitman). Read his other posts.

FFS dude.. that is not me. I just thought some of the stuff was funny so I posted it here, because I think that guy is lame. I was laughing AT him, not with him.

People these days. Jeez

[Brutha]

What do you think should Steve do? How should he handle this?

Have a good laugh.

Steve can, for example, find a good lawyer and sue that guy for being abusive and offensive in public. (I don't know U.S. and Nevada laws, but I guess there is a way to do it).

That would be the darkworker syndrome person do, but Steve is a bit different.

You should also be aware that it's not the only anti Steve side. And it's funny compared to other anti Steve efforts like registing account with Steve mail address on other forums and sending PM spam from them. You don't need to verify the address to send PM's in a lot of forums but only to make real posts, but a lot of forum owner didn't know that their forum was configured that way, which made a few people a bit angry about Steve.

His sick humor can't make many people laugh, but can infect many people with bad expectations about personal development.

You give that guy to much credit for influencing people.

You should probably look inside yourself when you get defensive by reading the site.

[konmai]

not even going to visit the site. i never thought such a site would ever exist though. interesting.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by Kazeko

In the same manner we can call any person with a machine gun "influential", and with an atomic bomb - "highly significant".

Originally Posted by DanielBrenton

(And he is probably reading this thread with deep interest. So we're stoking his pompous ego by mentioning him at all.)

That's probable, yes.

Originally Posted by Brutha

And it's funny compared to other anti Steve efforts like registing account with Steve mail address on other forums and sending PM spam from them. You don't need to verify the address to send PM's in a lot of forums but only to make real posts, but a lot of forum owner didn't know that their forum was configured that way, which made a few people a bit angry about Steve.

No really?? But why on earth would someone do something like that?? It's below the belt. Edit: and where's the point in harming Steve's reputation?

Originally Posted by Brutha

You should probably look inside yourself when you get defensive by reading the site.

I agree.

[Bitsy]

I think Steve's lack of participation in this thread speaks to his level of concern about that site. If he doesn't care about it, why should anyone else?

Though...the site itself does have a depressing effect. Wow...it's depressing to read...down, dark...so I'll have to stop reading it now

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

Though...the site itself does have a depressing effect. Wow...it's depressing to read...down, dark...so I'll have to stop reading it now

Noo it's not. If you feel this way after reading it, it means you're not very firm in your beliefs....

[Kazeko]

Originally Posted by Sam988

Noo it's not. If you feel this way after reading it, it means you're not very firm in your beliefs....

No, IMHO it just means that you're a very compassionate and sensitive person, and the things (I say it again) like rape, abuse, and death from starvation, touch you deeply. As Steve said "if I could, I would take out my heart and put it in their chests". Although he was talking about people who have a job they hate, you've got my point I think.

[Kazeko]

Originally Posted by Brutha

You should also be aware that it's not the only anti Steve side. And it's funny compared to other anti Steve efforts like registing account with Steve mail address on other forums and sending PM spam from them.

OMG! And how does Steve handle this stuff? How can he actually prove it's not him? An intelligent "so-called darkworker" can even do some "beleivable" stuff, like promoting Steve's book through that spam.

You should probably look inside yourself when you get defensive by reading the site.

What can I say....
"Frostbitten I became
Forthwith to see
Crystalized dimensions
To where the unfaithful fly" (c) Immortal

Digiman, sorry That's why I said from the beginning "I can be totally wrong".

[DanielBrenton]

Well, so much for this thread dying a quiet death.

Is anyone else in favor of asking the moderators to wipe this thread?

[Brutha]

No really?? But why on earth would someone do something like that??

Didn't you know that Steve is the anti christ? Or altanativly that Steve is dilusional and makes other people delusional (if the critic is more on the sceptical side)?
Steve says some things that offend certain people.
The person who wrote the linked blog is just one example and one that's not particulary damaging.

It's below the belt.

It's the internet. If you want to be a public figure in the internet you have to be able to deal with things that are below the belt.

An intelligent "so-called darkworker" can even do some "beleivable" stuff, like promoting Steve's book through that spam.

It was beliveable spam. See the talk page of the wikipedia page of Steve is you want to know more.
But you probably don't want to know everything.

[Marco Polo]

I think Mr. Pavlina has thicker skin than some people are giving him credit for. Somehow I can't picture him crying in his room right now...