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Old 07-01-2008, 02:12 PM
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I am a bit confused of the whole lightworker/darkwarker anology. To me it is a bit too extreme. I know you all heard these rants before but this is not the purpose of this post. I understand a overview of what there are; lightworkers being loved-based and dark-workers being fear based. It is the how that have me puzzled. I will give you a scenario and I want the lightworkers to explain to me how they will deal with the situations and why does that still makes them a lightworker.

Scenario: You are asleep late at night. You heard a noise coming from your daughters room. She is about 4 years old. You decided to check it out. When you arrive you first notice a dark figure (probally a bad guy) exiting through the bedroom window with your daughter is his hands. You have a split second to save your daughter but it will mean you having to kick the guy to his death while grasping your daughter from his hands.

Again this is not to contradict the lightworker concept I can see it work in alot of areas. But in dangerous situations like these do you give in to your primal instincts or do you look for the highest good.



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The way I view lightworking is not love vs. fear; it's whether I do what I do primarily for MY benefit, or for the benefit of others. I choose to do my work to benefit others - of course, I receive benefit as well, but that's not my primary purpose. My purpose is for *what I believe* is the greater good.

In your scenario, I would kick some ass with love! Lightworking doesn't mean I never act for my benefit, or the benefit of those I love. It's an overall view that shapes my intention.
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Again this is not to contradict the lightworker concept I can see it work in alot of areas. But in dangerous situations like these do you give in to your primal instincts or do you look for the highest good.
I'm confused. I don't see, in your scenario, where the conflict lies. Do you think it's loving, or beneficial for the highest good of all, to let a bad guy abuse and kill or do whatever horrible things to a four year old girl?
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I'm confused. I don't see, in your scenario, where the conflict lies. Do you think it's loving, or beneficial for the highest good of all, to let a bad guy abuse and kill or do whatever horrible things to a four year old girl?
Personally I will kill the bastard. Just because I fear what he might do to the little girl. The conflict lies where you are killing another person to save another. I just want to know what a lightworker will do in this situation.



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The conflict lies where you are killing another person to save another.
I don't think that has anything to do with the lightworker concept.

In addition you should understand the difference between tactics and strategy. Being a lightworker or darkworker is mostly a strategic decision.
To determine whether someone is a lightworker or darkworker you have to look at the motivations for his actions instead on the actions themselves.
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I don't think that has anything to do with the lightworker concept.

In addition you should understand the difference between tactics and strategy. Being a lightworker or darkworker is mostly a strategic decision.
To determine whether someone is a lightworker or darkworker you have to look at the motivations for his actions instead on the actions themselves.
Yup. Exactly. This is what kept me stuck with fighting the whole "Lightworker" / "Darkworker" concept. I was looking at the actions instead of the INTENTIONS behind the actions.

One example I can give is Martial Arts training. I train in a marital art that teaches us how to seriously hurt people. It is not a sport, it is strictly for real self defence. Anyways, whenever we get new students coming to class you can always tell who's a Lightworker and who's a Darkworker polarized person.

There are people who are there for fitness, self-confidence, being able to protect their family, etc. and then there are those who want to learn to "kick-a$$" and to hurt people. You can tell by the questions they ask. They always ask silly questions like "If it's 3am, you're leaving a bar, half-drunk and in a dark alley and a guy who's girlfriend you were hitting on pulls a gun on you, what's the best way to kick his butt Sensei?"

They actually don't have to say anything. You can just "feel" their energy with them just standing there.
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