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Old 06-12-2008, 12:54 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Now they believe the whole universe is flat. Supposedly when you die, you fall off the edge. Waahhhh!
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  1. You are fearful that's why you look for proof. Don't have fear you don't need a proof. Trust me on that.
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Just like church, how dare you challenge the holy trinity

I think that sums it up
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:07 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Or you could just focus your thoughts on what you want and go out and create it. It's a lot more fun that way.

That seems a better approach than staring at your navel until it proves its existence.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:20 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Or you could just focus your thoughts on what you want and go out and create it. It's a lot more fun that way.

That seems a better approach than staring at your navel until it proves its existence.
I created everything I set my mind to. I am comfortable in my own skin. I don't work for anybody. I do what I love. I am thankful for the life I have. If you think you started low in life, you don't really know what the low is...

Life acquires meaning when we face conflict...
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:00 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Good point and yet nobody believes earth is flat anymore.
Are you sure your above statement is universally true? I suspect there are some people somewhere who do believe the earth is flat or would if the idea that the world had a shape came to their minds.

I simply do not know if there is a better way to describe shape than what I currently believe but I suspect it does not adequately and fully describe the properties of the world.

I believe there are some things about the subject currently being discussed which are not readily apparent to me. Perhaps you would agree that some of your beliefs are not correct or that they are incomplete. Perhaps some of the things you and I dismiss as untrue are actually true.

Thanks for the thought provoking beliefs which you have shared here!
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:37 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Are you sure your above statement is universally true? I suspect there are some people somewhere who do believe the earth is flat or would if the idea that the world had a shape came to their minds.
The Flat Earth Society comes to mind...
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:04 AM   #126 (permalink)
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I had another "astral" experience two afternoons ago. I went in, overcame the fear, felt my body vibrating, then asked for healing (I have a medical condition).

Anyway, I'm still not sure what astral projection is. I've never tried to do it, but it happens to me from time to time. I've tried to explain the sensation to people in the past, but they just think I'm describing a bad dream. Its clearly different. But, I've never believed in this kind of thing before, so I usually just put it off as a weird mind-state.

Well, with a more open mind, I'd like to learn what to do when I'm in that state. Normally I try to wake up to get out of it because of the fear. This last time I asked for healing because it was the first thing that popped in my mind and I thought I would take advantage of it.

Anyway, any tips from others that go to this place on what they do when they are there would be greatly appreciated. I don't really care for tips on how to get there. If it happens, it happens.

I'd also like the counter view on this. Is there a scientific name for this phenomenon? How does main-stream science describe it?

Thanks for any insight...
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Tekomino, I have a question for your. If your own senses *proved* to you that psychic phenomena exist, would you accept it even though scientists say it doesn't, or would you check yourself into a mental hospital because you'd think you must be crazy?
This wasn't directed at me, but if we generalize the question to all phenomena that haven't been proven by science, my answer would depend on what we're talking about.

If I had a psychic reading that was unbelievably accurate and couldn't be written off as chance, then yes, I'd accept it no matter what scientists say. And maybe I'd be wrong, but that's OK. I'm open to the possibility of psychic phenomena even though I've never met anyone who claimed to be psychic. Come to think of it, I've never met any of these scientists either. How do we know they exist?

On the other hand, I don't believe that David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear (from our vision, yes; from its original location, no). You could show me all the evidence in the world, and I'd keep saying it was a trick. I can't say for sure that I'd never believe it, but it would take something like jacking out of the Matrix to convince me.

Why the difference? I don't know, one seems believable and one doesn't.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:53 PM   #128 (permalink)
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I went to Erin some time ago for some readings, but I'm still not sure what to make of it. Am I missing something? Read for yourself.

At the time I did the readings I had a totally open mind towards it and was quite excited about it. Even today I still believe in psychics, so no doubt there.

I did both an email reading (23 Jan 2007) and a phone reading (a couple of weeks later) with Erin.

In the email reading Erin told me that my guides (7-10) wanted me to do something with making a film (either in front or behind the camera) to "draw attention to the plight of underprivileged people or people who need help" (quote from reading). I have no experience whatsoever in front or behind the camera so I was somewhat surprised!

A year and a half later and this has not happened, nor has anything come across my path, and that's the part I don't get. I mean do I wait for it to happen, or do I grab my Sony Handycam and make it happen (somewhat on a whim). Sure I see people that need help around me, but I don't really feel I have a message in me that isn't already out there...

What makes it hard to decide is that Erin told me at one point that one of my guides was someone I knew from my teens who had died young. I asked Erin for his name, but she couldn't tell and asked me for the name so she could tell if it was him or not. This struck me as somewhat odd. Nothing conclusive came from it, so I just left it at that.

I guess I just find it hard to go on this 'mission' when in my mind there is some doubt as to whether this is reliable or not... There are other things I can do and feel passionate about I guess...

I do greatly admire the things that both Steve and Erin have done over the last couple of years, so that won't change! Clearly a match made in ... SpiritWorld?
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On another note have any you watched illusionist Derren Brown's 8 part series on YouTube - Derren Brown The so called Messiah 1 of 8 I would highly recommend watching it. Derren goes about trying to convince quite well repsected people who promote the parnormal world. Using his skills in magic, illision, pyscology, suggestion and misdirection he takes the viewer on an interesting journey.

I wish understood how he makes everything so believable, especially the drawing one at the beginning at the psychic reading towards the end. YouTube - Derren Brown - The so called Messiah 7 of 8

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Old 07-12-2008, 01:52 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Oh man, I didn't even notice you posted a new podcast till just now! I had been waiting eagerly for the next one.

I'm so excited!!

Thanks.
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