Can a lightworker...

[lifeforce]

...date multiple people at the same time? And can he train thaiboxing and jujitsu? How would a lightworker justify that.

[Cran]

Heaven, now it's starting here... I thougt I got rid of questions like "Is a Christian allowed to have a tatoo???" wehn I joined here, but obviously....

It is not the action, but the mindset that is important!

[lifeforce]

Originally Posted by Cran

It is not the action, but the mindset that is important!

You're right, and thats what I'm talking about. You could hurt peoples feelings and break someones ribs. How can those two activities contribute anything?

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

If the people you are dating all know the situation, if you are honest and open with all of them, I think that scenario is perfectly reasonable. As to the thaiboxing and jujitsu, why not? If you go in with the intent to hurt someone else for your own gain, that's darkworker.

Let me turn the question around to you: how could you do these things with a lightworker mindset?

[Trezker]

I suggest taking a close look a all the martial arts animes where the protagonist fights to defend his friends. Kurosaki Ichigo and Uzimaki Naruto definitely aren't darkworkers, they even force the monster inside them to help defend what's good and right.

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by lifeforce

You're right, and thats what I'm talking about. You could hurt peoples feelings and break someones ribs. How can those two activities contribute anything?

You can also hurt someone's feelings when you only date one person. Are you dating to find a loving relationship where you can also give love? Or are you just trying to get laid and then dump that person once you got from them what you wanted? And learning martial arts can also be a lightworker or a darkworker activity. Are you learning it so you can more effectively bully others into doing your bidding? Or are you learning it so you can protect yourself and your loved ones? It's the mindset that counts.

[Buttercat Apocalypse]

A lightworker mails a check of 200$ monthly to P.O. box 1235, London, UK.

[Fullcrum]

Yes, you can do both.

And you don't have to justify anything. Not to anyone.

We're talking about your motivation. Justifying is weak behavior for anyone.

[seeker5]

Hmmm, good questions. I agree with dating multiple people is ok if you're a lightworker if you're honest with each one of them. That is you don't mislead them into thinking they are your one and only one.

Now my question, what about being a lightworker and having an affair with a married woman? How would that fit? If you simply want to express your love toward her and the married woman absolutely loves her husband and wants to stay with him but also wants to express her love to you without letting the husband know about it?

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

Originally Posted by seeker5

Now my question, what about being a lightworker and having an affair with a married woman? How would that fit? If you simply want to express your love toward her and the married woman absolutely loves her husband and wants to stay with him but also wants to express her love to you without letting the husband know about it?

For me (and my obvious bias), that wouldn't pass muster because of the "for the good of all" caveat. I don't believe that a lighworker (by definition) would use deception to obtain what he wants. But of course I'm not the authority on the subject and really don't like clandestine affairs, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by seeker5

Now my question, what about being a lightworker and having an affair with a married woman? How would that fit? If you simply want to express your love toward her and the married woman absolutely loves her husband and wants to stay with him but also wants to express her love to you without letting the husband know about it?

Well, what she does is her responsibility and none of your business. If she decides to break her promise towards her husband and have an affair with you, and you are free and not lying, then I'd say from your side it's ok. You have no responsibility for her relationship.

However, being a lightworker is not only about expressing love, it's also about being committed to truth. You have to decide if you want to surround yourself with people who lack integrity. Is that really empowering you on your path?

Also, why does she need to have an affair with you to express her love? You can love someone without having sex with them and without getting romantically involved with them. Is it love, or is it an ego thing?

My 2 cents.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by lifeforce

...date multiple people at the same time? And can he train thaiboxing and jujitsu? How would a lightworker justify that.

Absolutely. It's the intention behind the action that matters, not the action.

For example. I can train in a martial art for the purpose of going to bars and causing mad chaos everywhere I go for the purpose of creating destruction and hurting people.

Or, I can train in a martial art for the purpose of refining the connection between my mind, body, spirit, as well as developing my self-confidence, self-discipline etc.

I've trained in martial arts and so has Steve. I'm pretty sure neither of us did it with the intention of hurting people.

[yossarian]

Lightworking has nothing to do with actions and everything to do with intentions.

If you "want" to be a lightworker, observe and purify your intentions.

[lifeforce]

Originally Posted by Ninja

You can also hurt someone's feelings when you only date one person. Are you dating to find a loving relationship where you can also give love? Or are you just trying to get laid and then dump that person once you got from them what you wanted? And learning martial arts can also be a lightworker or a darkworker activity. Are you learning it so you can more effectively bully others into doing your bidding? Or are you learning it so you can protect yourself and your loved ones? It's the mindset that counts.

Basicly "none of the above". I prefer to have two or three girlfriends 'cause I like the variety and I tend to feel locked down (bored) and claustrophobic with one person. I guess thats pretty selfish of me. I never lied or deceaved anyone. I was allways honest and upfront about it from the start. Those who didn't respect my lifestyle choises were free to come or go if as they wanted. No one is forced or manipulated.

With the martial arts, I come from a school wrestling team, and allways liked the 1-on-1 competiton. For me, it's all for fun. The compeating environment. Testotsterone bombs out to test our skills against one and another. So I'm not a violent person out to bully people or protect the weaker. I've allways been a peacefull person and use my mouth to be the "diplomat". I don't really like violence outside the ring. But still, people can get seriously injured in a thaiboxing match. I broke a guys ribs. We are friends, and we were on the same kung-fu team. I'm not out to hurt people an a daily basis, but the core of a thaiboxing match is "hurt the guy enough to win".

These are selfish "activities". But I guess a lightworker has to be selfish in order to give and create value for others. Being highly polarized are such extreemes, that it's hard to justify some things that are considered "bad" or not the most moral thing in the world.

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by lifeforce

Basicly "none of the above". I prefer to have two or three girlfriends 'cause I like the variety and I tend to feel locked down (bored) and claustrophobic with one person. I guess thats pretty selfish of me. I never lied or deceaved anyone. I was allways honest and upfront about it from the start. Those who didn't respect my lifestyle choises were free to come or go if as they wanted. No one is forced or manipulated.

With the martial arts, I come from a school wrestling team, and allways liked the 1-on-1 competiton. For me, it's all for fun. The compeating environment. Testotsterone bombs out to test our skills against one and another. So I'm not a violent person out to bully people or protect the weaker. I've allways been a peacefull person and use my mouth to be the "diplomat". I don't really like violence outside the ring. But still, people can get seriously injured in a thaiboxing match. I broke a guys ribs. We are friends, and we were on the same kung-fu team. I'm not out to hurt people an a daily basis, but the core of a thaiboxing match is "hurt the guy enough to win".

These are selfish "activities". But I guess a lightworker has to be selfish in order to give and create value for others. Being highly polarized are such extreemes, that it's hard to justify some things that are considered "bad" or not the most moral thing in the world.

You can't feed the hungry if you starve yourself to death. You need to do somethings for yourself, and why not martial arts? Your goal is 'hurt the guy enough to win', not 'hurt the guy enough so he'll give me his wallet'. The other guy entered the competition for the same reason you did: fun. So if both parties consent and no innocent bystanders get hurt, then what's the problem?

[jshine2]

I don't believe in any of the lightworker/darkworker crap... because it's based on the logical fallacy of the false dilemma.

If you study game theory, people often do "lightworker" things sometimes, and they do "darkworker" things at others, and sometimes things that mix the 2. Polarizing to one doesn't guarantee you overall life success.