Confessions of a Darkworker

[Steve Pavlina]

@Fireguy: You seem to be confusing the concept of polarity (fear and love energies) with the decision to polarize (intentionally choosing to channel one energy more than the other).

Anyone can channel either polarity whenever they want, and most people have leanings to one side or the other, but only darkworkers and lightworkers commit themselves to mastering a single polarity, the reason being that you can channel more energy when you avoid mixing them. This doesn't mean they're perfectly pure; it just means they're committed to one side or the other but not both.

[st joan]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

Do you understand what indifference means?

A darkworker is simply indifferent to what happens to other people if it doesn't affect him. A darkworker won't think about the disasters that happen in the world, they don't affect him. If a person who's close to him is under attack then you'll be sure to see a retaliation by the darkworker if the positives outweigh the negatives.

There are very few occasions where hurting another person is actually benificial in the long term. Most of them backfire in dramatic ways and might even get you killed.


Personally I went into the darkworker path for a month or so and I experienced something very similar. Now I'm mostly unpolarized, mostly because I made a few mistakes in implementing darkworker mental habits. The main thing was that I didn't train my emotional control enough before hand and I had a bit of darkworker syndrome going on as well. To do so is also condescending as it presumes others are not competent to live and deal with their own life.

Can you give us the technique's you use to change your emotions?

Without the facile polarization of "dark" vs "light" I do not believe that all the woes of humankind are necessarily my business or an area I can competently address. I leave to others addressing their own problems. I do not consider it "light" to be a busybody for the needs of everyone in the world or to be continually anguishing over every pain and lack of everyone everywhere.

If something does not affect me with a suitably broad understanding of my full values and interest, then what business do I have wasting precious time on it? If I have chosen my values well and with full heart and mind then my only business is that which furthers my values. Anything other than this is lack of commitment and focus.

I think about the disasters in the world to the extent that I think about changes in technology and people that could lessen or eliminate them and advocate and work toward those in those aspects that are in or synergistic with my personal goal set. That is not facilely "light" or "dark" but is rational and caring.

I do not think we do ourselves or the world any good by using simplistic terms like "darkworker" vs "lightworker".

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by st joan

Without the facile polarization of "dark" vs "light" I do not believe that all the woes of humankind are necessarily my business or an area I can competently address. I leave to others addressing their own problems. I do not consider it "light" to be a busybody for the needs of everyone in the world or to be continually anguishing over every pain and lack of everyone everywhere.

If something does not affect me with a suitably broad understanding of my full values and interest, then what business do I have wasting precious time on it? If I have chosen my values well and with full heart and mind then my only business is that which furthers my values. Anything other than this is lack of commitment and focus.

I think about the disasters in the world to the extent that I think about changes in technology and people that could lessen or eliminate them and advocate and work toward those in those aspects that are in or synergistic with my personal goal set. That is not facilely "light" or "dark" but is rational and caring.

I do not think we do ourselves or the world any good by using simplistic terms like "darkworker" vs "lightworker".

I drink beer.

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

I drink beer.

Non-sequitur much?

[wolfgang]

dark beer? or light beer?

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

dark beer? or light beer?

And you can only choose one... What's a guy to do? Let me drink on it...

[wolfgang]

No black & tan beers?! bummer...

[AnakinSkywalker]

Originally Posted by jimbos123456

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It's probably not worth all the karma screwing people over constantly in my opinion. Why would you want to increase your lifetimes incarnated?

Think of it this way. If there ever be a situation where a LW would have to kill an entire Village or say a family or just a child, would he do it?

I ask because I know that if this question were to be asked about a DW it would be easy to answer Yes!

Ask yourself this question and a lot of clarity will sink in.

My answer, "yes". If he is a true LW, on a degree of say 7+ he wouldnt flinch. So, are true DWs necessarily still evil all the time? (I assume, Evil = anti-human, to some worrysome degree).

At the same time, I think a LW or a DW both have the capacity to kill people and definitely animals. It depends on whether they have had exposure to such line of thought as vegetarianism. (I cannot say for sure whether Mother Teresa, MLK, Abe, etc were vegetarians. I know Mahatama Gandhi was cuz he had the exposure to Jainism where being a staunch vegetarian is default)

I'd like to believe that the Term DarkWorker could very well be replaced. We could call them Self-Light Workers or something.

I have read Mr. Pavlina's blog sincerely. I have gained. He is a man with focus. I have read words carefully. He did assert that DW and LW are the sides of the same coin. I agree.

Lord Mahavira attained Nirvan by meditation. His focus was not community service. He did not even give too many lectures. His focus was conquering thy self and become the greatest (Maha) warrior(Vir).

[AnakinSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

...darkworker if the positives outweigh the negatives.

There are very few occasions where hurting another person is actually benificial in the long term. Most of them backfire in dramatic ways and might even get you killed.

I agree. But arent sincere and realized LWs supposed to weight the pro and cons each time too? Since the best option will always allow him to better server his purpose. We are assuming that he is a 7+ LW and runs little risk of having the LW syndrome.

I agree here too. Killing other people only really exposes him as a menace and, LW, DW or NPC... nobody wants a menace. (Mr. Pavlina quite rightly said that due to such brainless and DW-syndromic acts lots of NPCs are converting)

In Star Wars, where the Emperor declares war against the Jedis seemed out of place (running out of celluloid I guess). The main characters in the movie had access to all the kinds of energies they wanted. They must be even living forever (Yoda for example), then why not just wait for a better oppurtunity to get more power than declaring a war and running the risk of total annihlation. Come to think of it The Emperor might've tripped over a rock called Darkworker Syndrome.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by AnakinSkywalker

Think of it this way. If there ever be a situation where a LW would have to kill an entire Village or say a family or just a child, would he do it?

I ask because I know that if this question were to be asked about a DW it would be easy to answer Yes!

Ask yourself this question and a lot of clarity will sink in.

My answer, "yes". If he is a true LW, on a degree of say 7+ he wouldnt flinch. So, are true DWs necessarily still evil all the time? (I assume, Evil = anti-human, to some worrysome degree).

At the same time, I think a LW or a DW both have the capacity to kill people and definitely animals. It depends on whether they have had exposure to such line of thought as vegetarianism. (I cannot say for sure whether Mother Teresa, MLK, Abe, etc were vegetarians. I know Mahatama Gandhi was cuz he had the exposure to Jainism where being a staunch vegetarian is default)

I'd like to believe that the Term DarkWorker could very well be replaced. We could call them Self-Light Workers or something.

I have read Mr. Pavlina's blog sincerely. I have gained. He is a man with focus. I have read words carefully. He did assert that DW and LW are the sides of the same coin. I agree.

Lord Mahavira attained Nirvan by meditation. His focus was not community service. He did not even give too many lectures. His focus was conquering thy self and become the greatest (Maha) warrior(Vir).

You know its interesting, if I had the following choice;
- I die and 1 million random people are saved in that same instant.
or - I live and 1 million random people die in that same instant (me excluded naturally).
I'd pick the second one in a heartbeat. Simply reasoning for me, if I die and my 'special' perspective dies with me, why should I ever want to sacrifice myself? Me is gone at that point, or survival of 'me' is most certainly uncertain (now thats a tongue killer). I'd say a highly conscious lightworker would definitley pick option 1.

Does this say anything about me?
Dunno, maybe it does. I do know that I'm not a committed darkworker or lightworker (not yet and I'm ok with that).
Not to say that this particular discussion leads anywhere. Its a funky scenario though.

agree. But arent sincere and realized LWs supposed to weight the pro and cons each time too? Since the best option will always allow him to better server his purpose. We are assuming that he is a 7+ LW and runs little risk of having the LW syndrome.

I agree here too. Killing other people only really exposes him as a menace and, LW, DW or NPC... nobody wants a menace. (Mr. Pavlina quite rightly said that due to such brainless and DW-syndromic acts lots of NPCs are converting)

In Star Wars, where the Emperor declares war against the Jedis seemed out of place (running out of celluloid I guess). The main characters in the movie had access to all the kinds of energies they wanted. They must be even living forever (Yoda for example), then why not just wait for a better oppurtunity to get more power than declaring a war and running the risk of total annihlation. Come to think of it The Emperor might've tripped over a rock called Darkworker Syndrome.

Sure lightworkers are also weighing pro's and con's, or not? I don't know.
I drink beer.



About star wars;
Its a mind made construct. Some usefull lessons but don't read into it to much.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

You know its interesting, if I had the following choice;
- I die and 1 million random people are saved in that same instant.
or - I live and 1 million random people die in that same instant (me excluded naturally).
I'd pick the second one in a heartbeat. Simply reasoning for me, if I die

I'd say a highly conscious lightworker would definitley pick option 1.

Does this say anything about me?
Dunno, maybe it does. I do know that I'm not a committed darkworker or lightworker (not yet and I'm ok with that).
Not to say that this particular discussion leads anywhere. Its a funky scenario though.

Very True that "Not to say that this particular discussion leads anywhere. Its a funky scenario though."

Originally Posted by Freelancer

Sure lightworkers are also weighing pro's and con's, or not? I don't know.
I drink beer.

Oh yes they are weighing. Given the above scenario, the first question I thought was "Hmm, may be if I lived I could affect more than a million lives"

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by AnakinSkywalker

Very True that "Not to say that this particular discussion leads anywhere. Its a funky scenario though."



Oh yes they are weighing. Given the above scenario, the first question I thought was "Hmm, may be if I lived I could affect more than a million lives"

lol ok, that second one isn't even CLOSE to what I was thinking. Perhaps I'm closer to darkworker then I think.

Not that I give a crap either way.