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Old 05-07-2008, 09:20 PM
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:27 PM
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There is a lot of ground roots movement from people claiming to be Lightworkers or talking about the lightworker path, but I see very few published texts in the primetime. Is it still in early stages? Is it meant to be a small number?

In the past the lack of large published texts would make me question the validity of the cause; now it makes me question the validity of print.

The problem is, you cannot know the intent of the author purely through reading, no matter what format. My attack is clearly fear-based but who inspired me to think of things as fear based or not?
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:29 AM
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There is a lot of ground roots movement from people claiming to be Lightworkers or talking about the lightworker path, but I see very few published texts in the primetime. Is it still in early stages? Is it meant to be a small number?

In the past the lack of large published texts would make me question the validity of the cause; now it makes me question the validity of print.

The problem is, you cannot know the intent of the author purely through reading, no matter what format. My attack is clearly fear-based but who inspired me to think of things as fear based or not?
I'll chime in my humble opinion on the manner - I think the only thing a person can take responsibility for is their own state of consciousness. Marcus Aurelius pointed to this fact in the Meditations when he wrote:
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Through not observing what is in the mind of another a man has seldom been seen to be unhappy; but those who do not observe the movements of their own minds must of necessity be unhappy.


Rather than questioning the validity of other peoples intentions, see what you can bring to the 'cause,' regardless of the perceived polarity of it.

If the cause is something you resonate with, can you see yourself as performing the necessary duty and elevating others to a high state of consciousness by living through example? Otherwise if the energy of the environment or 'cause' is fear-based or dark worker based, once you sense that - you can simply leave. You may learn from the experience just as much as you may learn by working or reading what a light worker may say.

If you're talking about practically deducing the validity of an organization's claims - facts always speak louder than words. And of course, for that - it is necessary to have developed proper critical reasoning skills in order to discern whether the facts have a hint of deception in them. My philosophy is to trust people to their word, but also realize that words can be distorted and it may take a bit of digging to get to the whole truth of the matter.

Once you reach a certain level of consciousness, truth will resonate and you will feel and know when someone is making a truthful statement. All in all, I think everyone has truth and dark workers and light workers alike lots of times utter true statements.

Steve - I loved this article. One contradiction I found within myself though is:
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Darkworkers ultimately want to be the kings and queens of their own universes. If you don’t deeply desire some form of dominance and control over your reality, you aren’t a darkworker.
I definitely want to be the king / queen of my own universe. Isn't that the same as taking responsibility for one's own life? Don't I have to be the king or queen of my own universe in order to shed old connections which may be perceived to be energy-vampires? Is it also possible that by creating a perceived polarity between dark and light workers - we are strengthening an unconscious divide between people who perceive the means to be simply a mean to an end? I agree with you that the core dysfunction is perception of something to be merely a means to an end, but aren't light and dark workers also meant to get along and work together? For instance, I find when I find someone who I perceive to be a darkworker but don't label them as such and treat them as I would as any other human being, I can witness light shining through them and their darkworker persona seems to .. dissolve.

Although I agree it may be important to separate yourself from them at the beginning so that you can develop your own positive influence, perhaps it's even more conscious to be able to work with a darkworker and see only the light shining through them? Surely, no matter how proud of your writing and work you may be - you do have to give credit to the statement of Lao-Tzu in the Tao-Te-Ching:

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What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man's job?
If you don't understand this, you will get lost,
however intelligent you are.
It is the great secret.
For me personally:

I feel I have some attachments to ... 'darkworkers,' who could be considered my parents, for instance. Even myself, in times when the moment is covered up.

I do know I need to break and separate and I am ready for that. The thing is - they are not. They want me to stay around. They draw their energy from me. This is not good for them because they need to have energy for themselves from the only thing that is real to them - which is their self. They try so hard to help me and be good parents, but they often times pollute their actions with negativity - which is of, course - just an unconscious thing they do because they perhaps don't see another way just yet. How do I let go of such an attachment, for which...my mom's response would be "you're not ready, you'll die on your own, you'll be depressed or you'll go crazy, you'll be lonely, etc." I KNOW that's not the case...and I also realize that this is her unconscious 'mom' ego talking who is afraid to lose her identity as a mom or her meaning in her life once I am ready to move - which I am. She will literally bawl up a storm if I leave..she'll make it into such a huge deal, if her past patterns are any indications - which I believe they are since I perceive it to be ingrained conditioning. Hmm...I am self-sufficient, but my mom helps as the accountant for my business - which I don't want her to be, not because she's not a good accountant, but because I really don't want my parents to be a part of my financial life. When I told her this, she exclaimed that helping with my business gives her meaning in life, rather than just being a librarian - which is an unhealthy attachment, IMO (she's seeking something on the outside to give her meaning on the inside...and on the outside nothing lasts).


Although they have a Ph.D in economics and extremely intelligent and good shoppers, this is something which I still have to learn on my own. I would appreciate her help, but not an overbearing type of controlling help which is intended to keep me leashed up to her for a long period of time. Any advice?

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What kind of texts would represent the ones you are looking for, Dave? I know I haven't seen books with the title "Lightworker" emblazoned upon them, but there have been many books written about aiding humanity in some shape or form. I liked Jane Goodall's "Harvest for Hope" or Gore's "An Inconvient Truth." I also have a lot of books by educators striving to make a difference. Autobiographies that address the courage and the human spirit, like "Stolen Lives" by Malkia Oufkir, or "A Child Called it" by Dave Pelzer, are also great. And fiction books can have a lightworker bent as well. Madeleine L'Engle is one of my favorite authors, even though I am not Christian.

But anyway, I never really thought of lightworking as consciousness-raising. It is interesting to me to see it framed this way. I've always thought of it as doing what my very being tells me it's important to do. My thing is working with urban youth, trying to enable them to find their paths and become productive citizens.

But it does certainly take courage. I've had my share of job-changes. I leave because each one leaves me with a better idea of what I need to do, what my values are, and how to go about it. It used to seem to me that I was crazy for chasing something other than the status quo (and many times it still does, I guess) but then I think about what I'm working for...and I realized that that's the only way to go. So if that puts in the same boat as other lightworkers, then I'm glad to sail that ship.
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Good article. I like how you talk about the fact that lightworkers find it easy to work together. Since moving closer to polarizing as a lightworker, I'm finding it way easier to work with people who are also on that path. Two darkworkers working together is difficult though because they compete. Lightworkers multiply their energy when working together.
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he mentioned investing in lightworking, can anyone name some lightworking companies ??
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What kind of texts would represent the ones you are looking for, Dave? I know I haven't seen books with the title "Lightworker" emblazoned upon them, but there have been many books written about aiding humanity in some shape or form. I liked Jane Goodall's "Harvest for Hope" or Gore's "An Inconvient Truth." I also have a lot of books by educators striving to make a difference. Autobiographies that address the courage and the human spirit, like "Stolen Lives" by Malkia Oufkir, or "A Child Called it" by Dave Pelzer, are also great. And fiction books can have a lightworker bent as well. Madeleine L'Engle is one of my favorite authors, even though I am not Christian.
Excellent observation; just because it's not about Lightworking doesn't mean it's not a proponent of Lightworking. Curious.

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he mentioned investing in lightworking, can anyone name some lightworking companies ??
You could donate to Steve. haha!

I think he's talking more in a venture capitalist point of view, like assist the growth of the business of another lightworker by supporting him by sharing resources and income(before and after). There are a myriad examples though. Very few publicly traded companies would fall between these lines, though, in my opinion.
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I've never been to their physical offices and have only worked with a fraction of their people, but my book publisher Hay House seems strongly on that side. To my knowledge they're currently the top self-help publisher in the world.

Hay House was founded by Louise Hay more than 20 years ago, who spent a heck of a lot of time encouraging people. I've seen her speak a few times. I think she was already in her 60s when she founded the company.

Everyone I've communicated with at Hay House clearly loves working there and is inspired by the work they do. I see a lot of genuine enthusiasm in their communication, whether by phone, email, or in-person. They've been a real delight to work with.

Most of their staff only works 4 days a week (Mon-Thu). Their employees are also predominantly female (about 80-90% I'd guess).

Hay House is very dedicated to helping people improve their lives, but as a company they have solid physical grounding (strong sales, hard-working people, expanding audience, etc).

If you go to any of their I Can Do It! conferences (the next one is in Vegas in late June), you'll be bowled over by the warmth of the people there, including staff, speakers, and attendees.
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Thanks steve, funny enough i was already thinking along the same lines, just looking at my self i can see the big H everywhere, and i do enjoy their books.

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I'm making the shift to lightworking. Just made the conscious decision a few weeks ago. Looking back over the past 3 years, though, I think the change is already in motion.

I was calling it becoming a pure, clear, expression of God and helping others do the same. A year ago, I separated from my husband and drastically simplified my life. I moved within walking distance of my job, gave up television, gave away or threw out about 80% of my stuff, and started walking a lot more.

Now, I'm working on shifting my work (what I do for a living) into alignment with my purpose and in a lightworker environment. It doesn't take very long to shift once you decide. Okay, 3 years may seem like a long time, but compared to 12 adult years living in a fog, it's nothing.

Thanks for all that you do Steve.
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Default A simple way to do Lightwork...

You can go either the all out route, and make a career out of Lightwork, or you can go the simple route and bring Lightwork into your career.

Most folks start with the simple route. Do whatever it is you already do well, and do it in a way that increases the health of everyone.

For an idea of what kinds of things humans need to have increased health, take a look at the Hierarchy of Needs.

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Thanks for posting this blog Steve, it clears up alot of things for me :-)
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