Rise of the Lightworker (Blog)

[John Prophet]

In all seriousness: I think everybody does everything that they do because of a need to satisfy a personal agenda. If you are selfless because you want to (get into heaven/be recognized as an advanced soul/feel good about yourself/impress the hot new-age chick) that is a selfish act. Its an act to make you feel good. So don't talk about darkworkers being selfish and selfishness being evil, because everyone acts out of self interest, and it isn't either good or evil.

Exactly. Almost all Human motivation is ultimately rooted in some form of selfishness or another. And whether or not it is considered “evil” depends entirely on other people’s opinions about it (meaning that morality is subjective). This is an issue that I’ve brought up several times in my own blog.

Bravo and well said, PrimaryErn !

[urrumurru]

Originally Posted by John Prophet

The same reason that God needs a devil. A hero can only be a hero if they have a villain to fight, a threat to protect against. And if one is not readily available, then it must be manufactured.

Yes it's true, how can you know feel good if you have never felt grief, we need them both, good-evil, God-Devil, ying-yang, lightworkers-darkworkers , jedi-sith...etc. Its the great formula that allows existence to exist, they are in a constant battle with each other through infinite time, sometimes evil gains more ground and sometimes good gains more ground but the moment one overcomes the other one there will be nothing (maybe)!
Anyway i choose to be a Lightworker, and as a Lightworker I want to take part in the battle for a better world. Not with force but with information, showing people a different reality, because most of us only know one reality and that reality is made up by the darkworkers who control our system, they have access to our brains through television( the easiest information stream), television is not a product of our lives but our lives is a product of television! And that reality keeps most of humanity at a low level of consciousness, they have created big walls around our consciousness, walls that can only be broken with a new kind of information, a information that stimulates you to seek more information, until you reach a higher level of consciousness and then you will be able to choose for real on witch side you want to be, the good side or the evil side!

My respect to you Steve for this blog!

[urrumurru]

Originally Posted by John Prophet

Exactly. Almost all Human motivation is ultimately rooted in some form of selfishness or another. And whether or not it is considered “evil” depends entirely on other people’s opinions about it (meaning that morality is subjective). This is an issue that I’ve brought up several times in my own blog.

Bravo and well said, PrimaryErn !

Yes, but when the selfishness of the Darkworker has an worldwide impact, my selfishness tells me to take action because he is stepping on my toes and i'm not stepping on his toes, he has no right to step on my and other peoples toes. All i want is for him to stop stepping on my toes, to reduce somehow his ego or to cut of the the power that allows his ego to get satisfied.
Every living thing has an ego, you can not exist with out an ego, "the ego is what binds all the elements together" (Goagil) , you have to control your ego or else it will take control over you! Take a little child for an example, when a child grows up, his ego is testing the limits you set as a parent, if your limits are weak and flexible the child will take advantage of your weakness , and his ego will grow, it will grow so big that it takes control over him and over you as a parent, chaos!
If your ego is controlling you, and if you have the power to satisfy your huge ego you'll soon cut of the branch you are sitting on!

[advocations]

Do you really think that our leadership (which, by the way, are the Democrats who control both houses, who, I would assume you would classify as lightworkers by the clearly biased nature of your article) should be compare to the Nazis and to the Devil himself? I find it hard to believe that SMART people would be so willing to follow this line of thinking but that is exactly what Steve is spouting in this article and in the followup forum. It appears to me that Steve is working as a darkworker by promoting fear, attempting to gain power of at least your thoughts and is generally unconcerned about the condition of the body. Do some research on what our leaders have done, don't just mindlessly follow a lunatic. It is thinking like this that is the cancer that is destroying the US. Remember folks, you elected them, they represent you, if you don't like them, replace them and thank your God, your shoes or whatever it is you worship that you have that chance. Most of the people in the world don't.

Start local, go out and do something good for your own community. YOU aren't going to change anything in Washington anyway, so quit wringing your hands about it. Make the changes where you can and quit worrying about it. Quite frankly, this kind of nonsense is seen as pretty pathetic by most in leadership. Do you really think that anyone says to themselves "now let's see, would all the bleeding hearts out there be slightly offended if I were to pass this piece of legislation...." Doubtful.

[Sam988]

hey steve you said that you would write a blog entry more "darkworker focused". is it coming soon?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by advocations

Remember folks, you elected them, they represent you

Originally Posted by advocations

YOU aren't going to change anything in Washington anyway.

This doesn't sound very representative to me.

The average citizen is not pleading, "Please take a third of my income but don't fix any our nation's failing infrastructures with it!" The common American dream is pro having a happy, healthy home, with respect and love from family, peers and employer.

Instead we have a failed drug war, a failed prison system, a failed Iraqi occupation, a failed economy, a failed immigration policy, along side representatives who are more concerned with image and party line voting instead of the public interest.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

This doesn't sound very representative to me.

The average citizen is not pleading, "Please take a third of my income but don't fix any our failing infrastructures with it!" The common American dream is a having happy, healthy home, with respect and love from family, peers and employer.

Instead we have a failed drug war, a failed prison system, a failed Iraqi occupation, a failed economy, a failed immigration policy, party line voting, etc.

You always whine about so many bad things in the US. And the US certainly has many bad things, but so do all the other countries.

A large part of the world's population would do anything to be able to go and live in the US. The US is, in my opinion, the best country in the world to live in. I'd love to have been born there. There is no perfect country, but the US is currently the one (or one of the ones, depending on your views; but you can't deny the US is way better than most of the countries in the world) that's the less far away from it.

[Dan.Linehan]

I may be better off than a homeless person or some prisoner, but I still see areas of my life and my consciousness that I would like to improve. I don't say to myself, at least I'm not them and then never try to improve.

The US has unlimited potential, for harm or good. The policies I mentioned are harmful to many, many people, probably everyone. To imply harmful policy is acceptable simply because other countries have worse policies is intellectually dishonest at best.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

The US has unlimited potential, for harm or good. The policies I mentioned are harmful to many, many people, probably everyone. To imply harmful policy is acceptable simply because other countries have worse policies is intellectually dishonest at best.

You're right about that. Just because the US is better off in general than most countries doesn't mean that it shouldn't always improve. But nonetheless, the US is a great country, and i will risk to say that it has much more opportunities (considering the wealth and the capacity of the technology nowadays) than any place else in the world in any time of history.

You just sounded to me in your former post like you're not happy with the US but i may have misinterpreted it.

[yossarian]

If you are selfless because you want to (get into heaven/be recognized as an advanced soul/feel good about yourself/impress the hot new-age chick) that is a selfish act.

Do you think Jesus acted selflessly to get into heaven, or be recognized as an "advanced soul", or to feel good about himself, or to impress the hot new-age chick?

I don't know what is more disturbing - the fact that people are afraid to call a spade a spade and still love the spade, or the fact that so many people have such a hard time with the concept of conscience.

Conscience is not logical. It is not a belief system.

Why do I try to follow my conscience? I cannot give a _truly true_ answer in words. It is beyond words because it goes beyond physical reality. There is no logical concept that will avail us here.

There is also no rulebook and you're right that labels don't matter.

[impaul99]

I re-read Steve's article again, except this time I changed the definitions of Lightworker and Darkworker in my head and the article now makes total sense to me.

I had to use these definitions though:

Lightworker - Someone who focuses on using LOVE energy towards him/her SELF and the WORLD to accomplish things.

Darkworker - Someone who focuses on using FEAR energy towards him/her SELF and the WORLD to accomplish things.

Essentially I had to throw away any previous definitions of Lightworker / Darkworker Steve proposed and just replaced them with more traditional ones as described above.

Under the context of using those definitions, the article totally makes sense and I totally agree that the world is becoming more polarized with Lightworkers rising up as the Darkworkers rise in power. It's exactly as described in the Celestine Prophecy books.

[Steve Pavlina]

Are the people who make the big decisions in U.S. leadership the elected politicians? I think some people are assuming that decision makers = politicians. Is that actually true?

[tracyrtwyman]

I agree with those who say this article was not helpful - but it was an interesting glimpse into the psyche of the author. I really enjoy Steve's writing and find it useful most of the time. The lows on this blog have been the 30 day raw food trial, any/all political commentary (no matter how artfully buried in the text), and this lightworker/darkworker/polarization BS. I've read several articles by Steve about this stuff now and remain unconvinced that there is any validity to it.

Who's working for the good of humanity? Who's working to the detriment of humanity? The answer is everyone, all the time, is doing something that will bring results, and those results will be interpreted as good by some people, bad by others. Who decides what is good for humanity anyway, or that what is good for humanity is necessarily "good" in a universal sense? Lots of people think they know what's best for humanity. It usually involves trying to control what other people do.

Working for selfish motives makes sense because at least you can define to yourself what you think is best for yourself. But when you arrogate yourself to the point where you think it's your duty to fix the world for everyone else, and convince yourself that you're being unselfish by opposing the selfishness of others, you are simply deluding yourself. The reason why 1/3 of my income is stolen from me before I even get my paycheck, and thrown into a black hole where I'll never see it again, is because other people think they know what's best for me and everyone else.

I'm not saying people shouldn't get involved in trying to change the world. I'm just saying that you should at least be able to admit that you're trying to create the kind of world you want to live in, and selfishness is as much a factor here as it is in anything else you do.

Adam Smith explained how this concept works in business:

As every individual, therefore, endeavours as much as he can both to employ his capital in the support of domestic industry, and so to direct that industry that its produce may be of the greatest value; every individual necessarily labours to render the annual revenue of the society as great as he can. He generally, indeed, neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was no part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it.

What Steve says about the power of "polarizing" - how your abilities increase dramatically once you decide what "side" you are on, is true. But really what's going on here is that most people are so confused about what they want in life, what they care about, and what they stand for that they are completely ineffectual. Those of us who decide clearly what we want and what groups/movements we want to align ourselves with will always be more effective than those who remain undecided and confused. All of the powers in the universe that share your alignment will come to your aid. But I think it's absolute crap to say that you have to decide between "light" and "darkness."

Obviously Steve considers himself a "lightworker" or else he would never have written about this. It would be interesting to see which people he has labeled as "darkworkers."

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by vwilson

If you really hoped your opinion wouldn't come across as offensive you would take responsibility for being understood (like any good communicator) and find a way to phrase your criticism that didn't involve calling someone's idea "crap".

Try demonstrating a little respect ... (no offense).
V

I must admit that I used the word "crap" for attention and to show how much I was against the absolute label of Dark vs Light.

I do think its OK to call ideas "crap" if thats what you feel. If you read the entire tone of my post I also used the world "love" when referring to Steve. The respect I have for Steve is higher than you can imagine; but nobody agrees with 100% of what anybody says...

As for the whole "Darkworker" and "Lightworker" classification, its my opinion that specific "intents", "actions" or "decisions" can be labeled Lightwork or Darkworker. A person can even be predominantly Light or Dark however the absolute labeling of oneself as a Lightworker or Darkworker is almost impossible. If I put focus on the word "worker" then that would mean that its a form of doing or even a form of continous intent on an ongoing basis.

Absolute Labels are always difficult to make as well as to maintain....

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Are the people who make the big decisions in U.S. leadership the elected politicians? I think some people are assuming that decision makers = politicians. Is that actually true?

"Politicians are executioners of the powerful's interests and are seldom beacons of rightcheousness" I'm proud of my little quote. True though.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by tracyrtwyman

I agree with those who say this article was not helpful - but it was an interesting glimpse into the psyche of the author. I really enjoy Steve's writing and find it useful most of the time. The lows on this blog have been the 30 day raw food trial, any/all political commentary (no matter how artfully buried in the text), and this lightworker/darkworker/polarization BS. I've read several articles by Steve about this stuff now and remain unconvinced that there is any validity to it.

I think quite the contrary. I think the highest of steve's post is about polarization (LW x DW). Now when it comes to subjective reality (which you, in turn, may consider useful) i just get turned off and don't even bother to read it anymore.


It's all about perspectives and how some issues resonate with some better than with others.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by tracyrtwyman

Who decides what is good for humanity anyway, or that what is good for humanity is necessarily "good" in a universal sense? Lots of people think they know what's best for humanity. It usually involves trying to control what other people do.

It's not about what is good and what is bad for humanity, it's about service.

The nature of proper service is to serve the exact wants and needs of some other entity if serving in that way aligns with your own true self.

Trying to control what other people do is the essence of selfishness - that is the essence of "darkwork".

In order to truly serve others you must refrain from infringing on their free will, and only serve in so much as they ask. This is what "lightwork" is.

Many people throughout the world are starving and want to be fed. Some want to be fed food, some are starving for sex, some are hungry for inspiration, some are hungry for truth, some are hungry for justice... proper service is to deliver these things on request. Some people are experts at delivering ideas, some are experts at delivering pizza.

Western culture has conditioned people to forget about the deep joy and fulfillment that comes from serving others. The corporate media has conditioned people to believe that the only viable service is self-service - that altruism is false.

We're taught in school that the only proper way to work is to maximize profit, and that through this means you benefit the whole. But this is a half-truth. If you desire to benefit ALL, then place your Service-To-All ambition above the ambition for profit. This is the essence of lightwork.

There are people who ask to be fed, and so one feeds them. This is the very definition of service to others. When you declare this to be selfish, you are engaging in doublethink.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Selflessness is Selfish

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

I must admit that I used the word "crap" for attention and to show how much I was against the absolute label of Dark vs Light.

I do think its OK to call ideas "crap" if thats what you feel. If you read the entire tone of my post I also used the world "love" when referring to Steve. The respect I have for Steve is higher than you can imagine; but nobody agrees with 100% of what anybody says...

As for the whole "Darkworker" and "Lightworker" classification, its my opinion that specific "intents", "actions" or "decisions" can be labeled Lightwork or Darkworker. A person can even be predominantly Light or Dark however the absolute labeling of oneself as a Lightworker or Darkworker is almost impossible. If I put focus on the word "worker" then that would mean that its a form of doing or even a form of continous intent on an ongoing basis.

Absolute Labels are always difficult to make as well as to maintain....

I hear'ya man, and I agree. However, last night I re-read the article and just loosely translated it into this:

"There are people out there that utilize FEAR energy to accomplish things (Darkworker). There are people out there that utilize LOVE energy to accomplish things (Lightworkers). Right now the world is seeing an uprise of more and more polarized Darkworkers, so Lightworkers must step up to balance out the equation. Are you a lightworker? Have you heard the call of the lightworker? Maybe it's time for you to polarize. If you haven't heard the call, keep doing what you're doing until you hear the call."

There, that's pretty much my summary of the article. In which case, it is exactly what I read like 5 years ago in the Celestine Prophecy books. Interesting enough, the author called this process "Polarization", which may be where Steve even got this whole idea from unconsciously or consciously if he read those books.

[yossarian]

"Polarization" is not new. It has been around for at least 6000 years.

[Dive Bomb]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Are the people who make the big decisions in U.S. leadership the elected politicians? I think some people are assuming that decision makers = politicians. Is that actually true?

I think they are just the face of the decision. From what it looks like today, most major decisions and policies come down to the interest of few (mostly corporations and interest groups). Of course they're always exceptions.

I love the controversy these types of post generate, especially with the political references.