Rise of the Lightworker (Blog)

[Keith]

Originally Posted by yossarian

Enlightened Evil, such as those who run our government (darkworkers) do reach enlightenment, depending on specifically what you mean by the term.

I think you're giving the government leaders too much credit(?). A very small percentage of people polarise. I would imagine most government leaders are operating on unconscious autopilot like (almost) everybody else.

Originally Posted by yossarian

Ultimately evil has a role to play, and a major part of that role is giving us a chance to see that God exists in all things, including Satan.

God exists in all things, including Satan, who doesn't exist? Wow I have trouble wrapping my head around that!

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Keith

I think you're giving the government leaders too much credit(?). A very small percentage of people polarise. I would imagine most government leaders are operating on unconscious autopilot like (almost) everybody else.

Yeah, I agree. I'm just referring to the *real* leaders, who are few.

At the same time, I've discovered that the Illuminati itself is far larger than I ever expected. But most Illuminati members are unpolarized slaves with no will of their own, doing the bidding of their masters. I often feel the most compassion for these people, because they truly are slaves, being born into an incredibly oppressive cult.

A large percentage of politicians, business and military leaders are basically slaves who were unlucky enough to be born into a certain secret society bloodline. From their first day on Earth they are tortured into submitting their entire will to their masters - Dissociative identity disorder is intentionally induced in almost every member starting at birth. These multiple personalities are then manipulated using reward-punishment training to turn the person into a total unconscious slave. Of every account of suffering that I've read, the way that these cults treat their own children is by far the most cruel. If you want to know why the upper echelons of our society seem so incredibly psychotic, google "Svali". Warning: Not for the weak of stomach.

[vwilson]

I would like to second Wu Wei Wu's query - knowing you are a lightworker, what exactly should one do to change the world? Is it enough to think differently and to act on this basis, to gently challenge the ideas of those around you by behaving according to the rhythm of your own lightworking-beat? Or should we be doing something? Lots of people - darkworkers or those unaware of either side - just bob along but can be quite resistent to new ideas, so perhaps preaching is counter productive ... but then just acting alone feels like it won't make enough difference.

That isn't a reason not to do anything, I hasten to add - because I know a lot of people use that as an excuse to not act according to their conscience - "nothing I do will make any difference anyway so there's no point" ... but even those who do act appropriately or do their best still wonder sometimes, how will this really make any difference?


V

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by penny

"9/11 was basically a modern day incarnation of the Reichstag fire, and excuse to curtail human rights with the promise of greater security." (...)

I read that single line over several times just to make sure I got it right.

I was very happy to read it cuz I totally agree

[jaamkie]

Have to disagree with one aspect of Steve's post- my experience has been that waking up to polarizations hasn't alienated me from friends but has instead brought me closer to people, and helped me understand the various motivations of friends and coworkers. Of course I live/work in Washington DC, so perhaps this city draws polarized people? I can think of many people I know who come here either to chase personal glory/power or to save the world- and sometimes strange quixotic mixes of both.

[The Wise Turtle]

I still think it's important to differentiate between healthfully focusing on one's self, and unhealthfully focusing on one's self. One can prioritize one's own success and power and happiness and still be creating a better world for everyone else. And that can happen because the kinds of things that make one sustainably healthy and happy are good for other people too. For example, having lots of friends will help you be happy and successful. So wanting to have friends, even for a selfish reason (to be more successful) is good for everyone. And the better you treat them, the more they will want to help you become more successful. So being completely self-centered can have the same outward effect on the world as being a "lightworker" does.

-Turil

[PrimaryErn]

Well, the clarification helps Steve - thanks - but I guess I'll need the new post because I still don't quite get it.

You are presented with an opportunity. If you take the opportunity, you will harm others while improving your own situation. Do you take it?

By that logic, if I have a few hours to kill after work, and I choose to spend them selfishly , i.e. meditiating and doing yoga - versus spending them selflessly, i.e. going out to work in a soup kitchen or a community project - then I'm being a darkworker. And that I don't agree with. Or rather, I can agree with it - that someone who focuses on self is a darkworker (or some label - darkworker is starting to become to synonymous with 'evil' for me to to keep using it, methinks) - but I don't agree it's "bad".

Logically, any opportunity not spent helping means you are "not helping". Any money you spend on yourself is money that a poor person is not getting. Nearly any action you take is harming someone, in some way, somewhere. How do you resolve that? your quote below says:

"Lightworker" to me does not mean harming yourself, it means refusing to harm others just to benefit yourself. Everyone in this world is constantly presented with this choice: they perceive two roads. One road seems to hurt others while helping themself. One road doesn't hurt others. If you make the same choice each time for a long time, you are polarizing.

...and I agree: every act for self is an act that is not-others. Are selfish acts evil? What about eating? What about competition?

But in this article the theme is to rise up against the darkworkers because they're poisoning the body. So how can you still have the old view of the darkworker (one who can still reach enlightenment) if you're talking about rising up against them for the good of humanity. How can we raise our consciousness if we're fighting with one another (lightworkers vs darkworkers)? and how can they reach enlightenment if they're killing off the rest of the body for their own sake?

yeah - that's sort of my question too. I guess Steve's working on it.

[Love]

Originally Posted by PrimaryErn

By that logic, if I have a few hours to kill after work, and I choose to spend them selfishly , i.e. meditiating and doing yoga - versus spending them selflessly, i.e. going out to work in a soup kitchen or a community project - then I'm being a darkworker.

...and I agree: every act for self is an act that is not-others. Are selfish acts evil? What about eating? What about competition?

Hi PrimaryErn.

I don't think that every act for self is necessarily a "darkworker" act. If meditating and doing yoga calms you down and makes you more level-headed, then you are better able to serve humanity. Things that promote your health and well-being can allow you to better contribute to the world.

I believe Steve calls it "Lightworker Syndrome" when one gives to the point of not being able to help oneself; i.e. giving all income away, not eating.
This is not advised, because it weakens your ability to help others.

The difference, I think, is that a darkworker has self as an end, i.e making more money will help me live better/give me more power, and that is a good thing in and of itself. A lightworker has the community as an end. i.e. if I am well then I can serve my community.

[JeromeX]

Hi, Steve, I have been your royal readers for years. It has been life change experiences by reading your blogs and insightful posts in this forum.

However I start to worry about the direction that you are taking in this new article regarding lightworkers and darkworkers, especially you use Dalai Lama and Chinese government as the examples.

The conflict between Tibet monks and Han Chinese has been escalated recently. Anti-China and Pro-China protests are spreading rapidly world wide. This has been stimulated by political interests with the excuse of human rights. A damaging trading war between western countries and China may follow soon which will benefit nobody.

I can understand your sympathy towards Dalai Lama. Western people usually confused his spiritual teaching with the political elements

There is no evidence available to show the crackdown on rioting monks. What we saw was the attacking on Han people and their shops by Tibet monks. Western media used Nepal police's crackdown on the monks to mislead the audiences intentionally. This is just one of biased reports. See more evidences on www.anti-cnn .com

The cultural conflict in Tibet is no more than the natural results during the process of modernization. If you do some research you will find out that religion system in Tibet was not what you learn from Dalai Lama.

Feeding 1.3 billion people and keeping a stable environment is not an easy job for Chinese government. Currently Chinese government has very high approving rate among its people and even oversea Chinese. Most of these oversee Chinese are well-educated in Western countries and not easy to be manipulated and fooled around.

Pouring oil to the fire of conflict between Tibet and Han, and between western countries and China, is not supposed to be a lightworker's job, given that you have millions of audience among western countries. Great power comes with great responsibilities.

The best way to understand Tibet and China issue is go there and see with your own eyes, not just reading and listening from the Subjective Reality from media and others.

By the way, I am looking forward to reading your new book.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by yossarian

To say to that evil, "I know that you are my brother and I love you despite the things you do." This is the next step in our evolution. We do not need to condone evil but we do need to accept it and love it unconditionally.

How do you love evil without condoning it?

[impaul99]

Once again, Steve's concept of Darkworker / Lightworker is too confusing for me. It makes no sense.

Even the whole analogy of cellular activity is confusing. Of course if you label it from the point of view of "Would you rather be a healthy cell or a cancerous cell?" or "Would you rather be good or evil?" everyone is going to want to be good or non-cancerous!

Do you really think that any so-called "Darkworkers" actually believe that they are "cancerous" though? I would guess that most of them feel that they are justified in their actions.

Who judges whether or not an activity is for the "greater good" or not? If a police officer walks into a school classroom and sees a suicide-bomber with C4 strapped to his chest and he shoots him in the head to save the 30 children in the room, does that make him a Darkworker or a Lightworker? He killed one to save 30.

Do scientists in the lab who experiment on rats while trying to find a cure for a deadly disease qualify as darkworkers? THey kill living things! What about a cellular biologist who does experiments on human cells? What about the US Soldiers in Iraq who are following orders? Are they darkworkers?

Or are they Lightworkers because they are fighting to save the world from "evil" and they're doing it for the greater good?

Although I wholeheartedly believe in helping the world to become a better place, I personally find very little value in these labels of "Lightworkers" and "Darkworkers". It just seems like another Egotistical tactic to judge and seperate ourselves from one another. I'm not going to label myself or anyone else as a Lightworker or a Darkworker. I'm Paul. I am who I am, and I do my best to express love in the world, regardless whether it be to help a lady cross the street, to help my family, to help my employees, to help my friends, to help a complete stranger, to help the world, to help myself, to help my dog or whatever.

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How do you love evil without condoning it?

I think to be as Yossarian says, and to love in that way, you have to exist in a state of mind where you just love what is, you love what it is at the moment, and every moment. You don't think so far as to decide that it's evil.

[Still Growing]

Oh hear we go again with the Lightworker / Darkworker crap. No offense Steve. I love ya and I love your work but I disagree with the entire analogy. If you remember I was completely against this before.

Life is not like Star Wars and most people are neither Dark or Light. Yes Steve says that less than 1% of the population is either Dark or Light.

I do not think Steve is 100% Lightworker. Definitely more Light than Dark but with shades of Grey and Black.

If I give analogies then Steve would say that by this decision or that decision that he is able to simple do more Light work.

Essentially, Lightworkers are basically more love based and since the overall intent is good it is possible to describe their normal selfish actions as being out of love because they would be able to give even more. Yes they benefit but Steve would proclaim that its OK for lightworkers to be successful. Where do I sign up for having my cake and eating it too.

I do agree that there are people who are so Dark that you could label them Dark and that some are so good you could label them as Light but the premise that its a complete and accurate discription would be a stretch.

The human mind is very powerful and can fill in blanks where they exist. If Steve wants to be light, sees the good he is doing and strives for giving then he can feel good by calling himself a Lightworker and believing that there are three types of people (Dark, Light and Other)

What I would contend is that someone can "Generallly" be Light or "Generally" be Dark but that there are certain segments of their lives that they may operate in the the Dark.

For example, someone could be successful as a lawyer and during the day work as a Darkworker but then get off work and donate time to charity and never tell anyone about it. Another person could be a Lightworker during the day and a sex addict at night. You could even be mostly a Lightworker but make a wrong decision based upon fear, greed or power in any given moment. Its an isolated decision but the Dark thought still penetrated your world.

It is my contention that NO HUMAN is 100% Light or 100% Dark and that labels are hard to live up to. If you loosly say "My career path is Lightworker" then that would be acceptable or "My overall intention is to be a Lightworker" then that would too. There is a difference between calling your career choice or action "Lightworker" than in calling yourself a "Lightworker". When labeling yourself you then have the duty of being pure in EVERY action. Very difficult.

Maybe you could say Jesus was a Lightworker and the Devil is a Darkworker but its certainly difficult to clearly distinquish ourselves as fully being either.

Furthermore, a true 100% Lightworker would proabably not even proclaim themselves to be so... (in theory)

Technically, spending time focusing on titling yourself as a Lightworker is an Ego based effort that could be labeled as a dark action whereas the majority of articles are written focused away from the Ego and more dedicated to giving. Steve, please don't spend too much time philosphizing about the good you do and put that brilliant brain power towards less self indulgent lightworker work.

Hope you don't find my opinion offensive...

[andyoyo]

I think if I were a certain cell of the human body it be part of the toenail. Because I'm next to all the Fungus & bacteria from the Pavlina forums.

[JeromeX]

When you start to label some one as bad guy, you will be labeled. When you start to judge some one, you will be judged.

That is how conflict rooted between persons and beween countries. That is how relationship works.

[Mr.Mustache]

I don't the see how it is practical to label a person a dark or lightworker. This is getting a little too grandiose, any tidbit of grandiosity and melodrama coming from Steve is a bad sign. I doubt there is anyone in power who would fit closely the definition of darkworker. To be a darkworker they have to consciously be aware of doing all they can to manipulate other people and I don't see this happening. More importantly how would Steve know this is happening.

It also sounds like Steve is buying into the 9/11 conspiracy theory and all the controversy surrounding the patriot act, which in case you haven't noticed, has not stripped us of all our rights or any important ones. Although, I disagree with much of the patriot act its not exactly a sign of the ending of time.

I do believe the polarization concept and the cell-body analogy are good ones but they are only useful in so far as they motivate. These concepts don't perfectly reflect reality. No one can really meet the ideal of light or darkworker and the cell-body analogy is a little simplistic.

I hope this Steve doesn't focus on bringing together "lightworkers" too long.

[anamoly]

I like the cell-body analogy, but perhaps the whole buying into the evil concept is a bit deceiving. Non-attachment is as important to visual imagery as it is to visual experiences that one may induce upon oneself in lucid dreaming or spiritual projecting.

I'd like to share a story. One time, I was really young and I took LSD and I saw satan and instantly bought into visual imagery and became literally insane and grandiose. I bought into the theories, such that governments can control you and basically was a textbook case of DISORDER. In that state of insanity, I would interpret the above statement to be evidence of control because I would associate textbook with government and control.

I ended up .. well manifesting my intentions and sure enough the 'satan controlled workers' disillusioned me with some firey batons because I was being disrespectful to their avatars.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How do you love evil without condoning it?

Love is a feeling.

I have 2 cats and I love them a lot. By this I don't mean that I "say" I love them, I means that I can feel it. It's a feeling, it's not intellectual. I don't love them because I'm told that I should or because it's expected or because I fear not loving them. I don't love them because of things I've done in the past or things I aspire to do in the future. I don't love them for any reason that I can articulate, but I do know that I love them.

Despite this one of my cats will antagonize the other and attack the other. Very cruel, very mean. I don't love him any less but I cannot condone that behavior so I take action to stop it. I still love him when he attacks, when he is violent and cruel.

I can honestly say that I usually feel compassion and love for most of the evil bastards throughout the world. It helps when you realize that they act out of ignorance and delusion (in the same way that all humans act out of ignorance and delusion) but it helps even more when you meditate long enough to realize that All Is One. When All Is One there is no alternative to loving all things. You can disagree completely with someone's behavior but still feel love towards them. This comes from feeling internally that All is One.

This is not an intellectual exercise - the mind will not resolve these paradoxes.

Awareness in the moment determines Right Action alone. There is no guidebook for behaving properly. Proper behavior can only flow out of being Present in the Now.

When they say "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" they are referring to the ultimate fallibility of the intellect. The intellect can take you only so far, and then you need to transcend it and find a deeper intelligence - a deeper guidance. In this thread there are many people trying to rationally understand things and trying to sort out rationally what their behavior should be.

I tried this for many years - using my logical mind to try and find what the "right thing to do" would be. Logic wants a formula that tells you exactly what to do in every situation so you can know ahead of time. Logic is all about consistency and prediction. Reality is not consistent and cannot be predicted. No matter how hard we try, our logical minds can never give us these answers at a truly satisfactory level. Only stillness, awareness, or whatever it is you want to call it (the stuff you find in insight meditation) can inform you. It acts like intuition but it is actually deeper than typical right-brain intuition - it is guidance. Meditation doesn't give you new concepts though, it transcends concept. It's not a way to discover a logical proof, it's a way to stop requiring logic because you now have a better system.

Once again I'm reminded to point out that all these concepts, ideas, thoughts, arguments - they are just signposts pointing to "It". We are all looking for It whatever It is. There are many signposts but you cannot say what It is. Just like in The Matrix when Morpheus says,

"No one can tell you what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."

The Matrix represents the human mind which exists in ignorance and delusion - no matter how much we learn or think or experience. When Jesus acted he did not act out of logic and he did not know what he was doing beforehand. He acted from this place of Stillness and Oneness, from this higher level. It is not logical and so he did not try to logically explain what he did.

The only way to integrate all of Jesus' actions into a coherent whole is to realize the deep place from where his actions flow. You could call this place the eternal Now. Jesus was not a pacifist or a pragmatist or a Jew. He did not base his actions on the 10 commandments or a non-violent ideology or the eight precepts or even a principle such as "compassion" or "love". When Jesus acted, there was no internal dialog saying, "Is this the loving thing to do? Is this the compassionate thing to do?"

Instead, his love and compassion flowed from a deep place. There are times when he acted violently and times when he used harsh words. But in hindsight we can see how all these things he did flowed from an inner knowing of compassion and love. No doubt that when he did many things, he couldn't see the outcome. That is the nature of this guidance and the nature of being human. You Feel that it is Right but your mind cannot See it.

Learning to act from the same place that Jesus acted from is what most of us aspire to do. But we won't find this skill on the intellectual level. We have to go deeper into the Now to find it.

[DanielBrenton]

Originally Posted by joylangtry

Yep. Here.

Here too.

Steve, I think you and Erin know me well enough that I have no issue with some "Lightworker Bias." I was pleased to see you say that too much darkworker influence equals disease to the "body."

It's got to be said, and people hear you.

[PrimaryErn]

Steve's quotes. I'm assuming this willall make sense at some point, but can some of you folks who are like "it makes perfect sense" see why I might be confused?

Darkworkers are essentially cancer cells.

A protracted war, a down economy, and manufactured threats are great conditions for darkworkers to increase their power… not unlike the conditions in Germany when Adolf Hitler came on the scene.

Darkworkers thrive in a climate of fear. Fear is the tool of their trade. The more fear they can create, the more powerful they can become. Fear creates willing and obedient slaves who submit to the will of the darkworker. Crafty darkworkers use deception to make submission seem like an intelligent choice. This approach can be quite effective. When fear is ineffective, darkworkers use greed instead.

ok, but...

While I may be lightworker-biased, I also want to encourage those who choose to pursue the darkworker path because as long as they keep growing in awareness, all of us will ultimately benefit from it.

uh?? Encouraging Vampire, slave-driving, fear-mongering hitler zombie robot cancer cells? Uh???

OK, I threw the robot in, but I didn't put Ninja or pirate in.

[JustBe]

Geez, I am touched.. really.

Brilliant description..

[vwilson]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

Oh hear we go again with the Lightworker / Darkworker crap. No offense Steve. (...)
Hope you don't find my opinion offensive...

If you really hoped your opinion wouldn't come across as offensive you would take responsibility for being understood (like any good communicator) and find a way to phrase your criticism that didn't involve calling someone's idea "crap".

Try demonstrating a little respect ... (no offense).


V

[supertom]

the thing is that , if the white cells kill all the cancer cells than there wont need to be any white cells, cause theres no need. But if the cancer cells kill the white cells, than cancer just takes over even if the white cells are gone.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by supertom

the thing is that , if the white cells kill all the cancer cells than there wont need to be any white cells, cause theres no need. But if the cancer cells kill the white cells, than cancer just takes over even if the white cells are gone.

White cells don't fight cancer - they don't recognise it as foreign matter. But assuming they did, you still want them around after the cancer is gone in case another cancer shows up. That's how the body works (only vs infection, not cancer).

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by PrimaryErn

uh?? Encouraging Vampire, slave-driving, fear-mongering hitler zombie robot cancer cells? Uh???

Absolutely. That's the essence of free will. On this planet you can choose to be any of those things.

I realize that some members just aren't aware of what it means to be a darkworker and find it preposterous that someone would choose this path intentionally. Your personal objections, however, do not prevent everyone from choosing that path.

Other people, however, are well aware that some on this planet have chosen the darkworker path intentionally, and committed darkworkers are not dissuaded by what others think of them. Ignorance is advantageous to them. Cancer cells do not advertise themselves as such.

Despite the objections from the choir, cancer cells can and do arise in the body of humanity.

The polarity challenge is to consciously decide whether or not to be a cancer cell. When you're ignorant of the decision, you end up taking many cancerous actions by default because you aren't aware of what you're doing. How are you contributing to harming the planet and the people who live here without realizing it? Are you ready to commit fully to a path of preventing harm? Or to its opposite?

[supertom]

tell us some darkworkers, so that we can look for those behaviours in ourselfs. Would you people consider warren buffett to be a darkwork???

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by supertom

tell us some darkworkers, so that we can look for those behaviours in ourselfs. Would you people consider warren buffett to be a darkwork???

I don't consider Buffet a darkworker.

Some really obvious modern darkworkers would be Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. They are both completely obsessed with their own power and have zero remorse about harming others, which they do constantly.

Throughout history we have even more examples

Kim Jong Il
Milosevic
Nixon
Stalin
Hitler
Himmler
JP Morgan
Rockefeller
Nathan Rothschild

(The list of 19th and 20th century bankers, who we know of, who are extremely self-centered and don't mind harming others is incredibly long)

Rasputin
Genghis Khan
Charlemagne

(Tons of European Nobility throughout the last 1500 years easily fit the description)

Augustus Caesar
Alexander The Great

I only list the people who I think are really obvious. There are many others who we can't really know for sure about - most of the time you can't tell in people. But some people's thoughts and actions are well-known and extremely obvious. For instance I don't think there is a single reported instance of Dick Cheney behaving selflessly.

Out of the people I listed the only ones who are even slightly debatable, IMO, are Augustus and Charlemagne.

What unites this list is that at every turn these people have been recorded as acting in a way that increases their personal power and interests, without remorse or hesitation with respect to harming others.

[John Prophet]

To put it simply, darkworkers have a very Machiavellian approach; sometimes brutal, but always pragmatic.

[impaul99]

So the point of "lightworkers" rising up and forming a gang is to go out and wipe out the "darkworker" gang that's been rising up? Meanwhile the "normal" people that are undecided in the middle go on about their lives unaware of what's going on?

Sounds like an "X-Men" movie to me. Do the lightworkers get cool constumes to wear with like a big L on the front of their chest?

According to Subjective Reality type thinking, however, doesn't believing in "Darkworkers" make them become real? Doesn't the Course in Miracles teach that all the "work" that needs to be done is done on the inside? Isn't it all just about forgiveness, both to yourself and everything else you see "out there" since everything "out there" is actually "in here"?

I used to have a friend who thought that the government was totally out to get people and screw them over and that they were all corrupt and evil and all just about getting rich and keeping the regular people down. THen one day he actually decided to run in a local city election and he totally got involved in the process all the way through to the point of having his name on a ballot, participating in political debates, and campaigning and actually getting several hundred votes during the election.

A few weeks later I had a chat with him and I asked him about what he learned from the experience and he said that he no longer thinks the government is evil and out to get everyone. He met all these politicians and he realized that they are just regular people with families and kids and wives and a lot of them work really hard, and they don't make a lot of money and they genuienly believe in what they are going after, even if they are seen as idiots to others.

His version of "reality" changed inside his head and then everything changed for him. I never thought the government was out to get me and I haven't seen any kind of action taken by the government to try to do that to me. I think we all create our own realities.

If subjective reality exists, why would we want to project energy towards creating these so called "Darkworkers" out there and rising up against them?

[John Prophet]

If subjective reality exists, why would we want to project energy towards creating these so called "Darkworkers" out there and rising up against them?

The same reason that God needs a devil. A hero can only be a hero if they have a villain to fight, a threat to protect against. And if one is not readily available, then it must be manufactured.