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| Wow, I got gose bumps when I read this post. Quote:
It comes as a confirmation and feeling deep down to be on the right track. So cool |
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| People who are feeling like they ought to be doing something, but don't know what; who feel like things are falling apart around them or the world is heading to a scary place; who feel like the amount of evil or pain or destructiveness in the world is increasing; why *not* focus on the self first? Why not be a darkworker? (Other than not liking the evil-sounding unsexy name). It is far more likely for you to make a difference in your own life then in the multitudes of others. If everybody who was doing nothing instead decided to improve themselves a small amount, it would make a huge difference globally, all without worrying about the collective. I think the bias against self-motivation is actually the bias against un-enlightened self-motivation, which I think some have touched on. Nearly all collective lifeforms, like bodies, are comprised of cell-like strucutres that really, honestly, *don't care* about the group. They do what they need to improve their own self-interests. Everybody who constantly talks about feeling the power of the collective race of humanity, I wonder about, because the model in nature is for collective intelligences to not be generally available to the quanta in the model. Hive intelligence is only available at the hive level. Individuals in the swarm don't comprehend the goals of the swarm because the requirement to think like a swarm is to be as complex as the swarm, which individual elements are not. It feels nice to imagine you can 'tap in' to the swarm's overmind, but its not very likely - at least not in the power of nature. In an ecosystem, the individual elements are *entirely* selfish. they don't get out of control (some would say evil) by checks and balances and competition from other elements - not because animals or nature are somehow "good". I personally think that the feeling of overwhelm people get because 'something is wrong' with the collective is people thinking they should be moving a huge mass with their single strength, and because of overwhelm doing nothing. Instead, if people did their best to improve things from the skin in, which is far more manageable, and follow the way the collective model works in nature, we'd see far more changes for the better. And, before someone asks, I do believe an individual can improve the lives of millions. I'm just saying that a stategy that works for the average person will be far better leveraged by the mass of average people than a strategy that can only be performed by a very small percentage of 'enlightened' folks. |
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| I think Steve's definition of lightworker is a little too large. There are many of us who are individually counteracting darkworkers, one person at a time. In my case it is my husband, and I am working to turn my children to lightworkers. It looks like I failed with one, but am winning with two. I would like to help in a larger sense, but what I am doing takes all my energy. And I don't think I am neutral. |
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| These posts are making me laugh. Literally. I'm a "darkworker" (although my definition of it is FAR different than the one Steve uses). I'm about as far from evil as you will meet, unless you definition of "evil" is anything that a lightworker is not. The "evil" people that have been mentioned in this thread aren't DW's in my way of thinking. They are ACTUALLY failed lightworkers. BTD |
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| The problem I have with this analogy of "lightworkers as immune system, darkworkers as cancer" is that white blood cells don't sit around and try to convert other cells into white blood cells. They get off their butts and go out and KILL the cancer. So unless this is an indirect call for "lightworkers" to get out there and kill people, then I don't think it holds up.
__________________ ~Lauxa~ Free online flashcards for preschoolers: http://www.mooneleaf.com/flashcards |
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The problem with darkworkers being in the legislature is that they control the police force via the law. Once that happens fighting back directly becomes slightly more difficult.
__________________ Best, Dan Linehan |
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| Darkworker is the way to go! Of course not going as far as suffering from DW syndrome. I can't hold a smirk of joy when i read steve's description of a DW, but i don't completely agree with steve's view of them as such "cancerous" personal-gain- only driven individuals. But i'll be posting further later when i have more time.
__________________ All that matters is results. Turbo mode now! Full schedule. Bye bye. |
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But heh, it's just an analogy. The how is for each individual to consider. And why not recruit more people to the cause? It's not like Steve is Luke Skywalker- he can't do it all on his own! But maybe a Luke Skywalker will emerge and restore balance to the force. I've got my hopes set on Tiger Woods- president of the USA 2025.
__________________ "the map is not the territory" |
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| I don't think Darkworkers are really any match for the long term power of improved communication. Nowadays you can find any politician's bio on Wikipedia and read up on their scandals. Wikipedia also busts you out if you inappropriately try to edit articles. The truth becomes clear as well as progressively easier to access as information technology improves.
__________________ Best, Dan Linehan |
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| First off, this is my first post here. Hello everyone. I've been reading Steve's entries for a few months now and this could be my favorite so far. Steve, I have a couple questions for you... Would you agree that the Council for Foreign Relations is the backbone and driving force behind darkworkers in modern American politics? Likewise, how do you relate the "Ron Paul Revolution" and "9/11 Truth Movement" to your following quote? Quote:
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| Being a lightworker requires not only the capacity of bringing peace to the world, but also of fighting evil when required (who was the greater lightworker: mild Chamberlain or vicious Churchill?). Obviously political leaders are frequently darkworkers, but this is true across the entire political spectrum. This is why I find the comparison to the current US administration selective and way off-course, not to mention the shameful comparison to Nazis (which could only be made by someone who's never faced true evil). It is easy to be a pacifist when others are protecting you (say in Europe after WWII - protected by the US), and to not see that force (or geographical isolation) secures peace, and that this has been the case throughout history. While the media portrays the Iraq war as an unmitigated disaster while completely failing to report the progress being made there, and excuses are offered for Arab violence, almost no one seems to notice, for instance, the appalling treatment of women in Arab countries or the fact that there is no culture of Tibetan suicide bombers, despite brutal oppression. One of the highest responsibilities of true lightworkers is the preservation of the civilization which has given them their life, freedom, good fortune, and ability to think independently and fulfil their calling, however imperfect this civilization may be. This is not done by being cowardly and acquiescing to destructive influences over it while blaming those who attempt to stand up for it (again, however imperfectly), but by fighting, when needed, for its preservation.
__________________ Homeopathy Zone: my blog on homeopathic medicine. Online clinic: Long-distance homeopathic treatment. Last edited by Holoscientist : 04-17-2008 at 06:38 PM. |
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| Steve, How do you reconcile the fact that white blood cells kill? Do you think that is the point where your metaphor breaks down, or the point where your philosophy of non-violence breaks down? I make the question pointed, because I believe it is one of the defining questions. Rarely, do I see a self-described light worker confront that question with integrity. Most people duck the question by trotting out some irrelevant emotional tripe. Respectfully, bdc |
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| What a wonderful article. Congrats to Steve. Quote:
And as I'm reading this description of the darkworkers, I can't help think of negative energy that I clear in my work (this may be more suited to the psychic part of the forum but I'm gonna throw in my two cents worth anyway Positive souls draw their power from Source, Light, God whatever you want to call it. They know (at least on a soul level) that they are pieces of Source and access these positive energies when they remember and if they aren't too affected by negativity. Souls that are aligned with and work with negative energies choose not to draw their energy from Creator Source or God. But this presents them with a problem because Light or Source is the only source of energy in the Universe. Therefore they must draw energy from other souls, by creating negativity (often through control and fear) in them. This allows them to siphon off energy from Lightworker souls. We have all come across people who thrive on the misery of others. To darkworkers this is happiness. Thought it would be interesting to clarify here what I believe darkworkers' agenda is from an energetic point of view... Lightworker souls are working to make sure that all can access Light/positive energies without being affected so much by the negativity that is very much present on our planet. Whereas Darkworker souls are working to make sure they personally can get enough energy from second hand power sources, because this is the only option they have unless they choose to work with Light. They are souls who have chosen to cut themselves off from Light in a place where Light/Source/God is all there is.
__________________ Anna Conlan Soul Clearing "I highly recommend a reading with Anna as a way to accelerate your personal growth" - Steve Pavlina http://annafrancesconlan.com/testimonials/steve-pavlina Last edited by Anna Conlan : 04-17-2008 at 11:24 PM. Reason: wanted to add something |
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| "9/11 was basically a modern day incarnation of the Reichstag fire, and excuse to curtail human rights with the promise of greater security." Hi Steve, I've never felt the urge to post on here before, but I just have to say...that was such a short, but very bold statement you've just made there. (Have I never read of this opinion before in any of your previous posts?) It amazes me how you didn't think in terms of how many readers you might possibly lose just from lacing such a wildly unpopular opinion into your blog. You really aren't in this for the money, are you?... I read that single line over several times just to make sure I got it right. Yup. Quite the feisty lightworker, you are. |
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On a purely physical level, you might freely choose a violent solution. Simply kill off the darkworker if you're able. An atheistic perspective might suggest this solution. On a more spiritual/expansive level, you can't annihilate the darkworker by killing him/her because the darkworker is just a projection of consciousness. It's like killing a dream character. So in this case the solution is to address what it is about *your* consciousness that gives rise to an excess of darkworkers. By working on yourself, particularly by resolving your own fear and greed, you become a person capable of nonviolently neutralizing darkness in the world. You basically change the soup of reality such that it stops giving rise to darkworkers. I prefer the latter approach. I seek to neutralize darkness in the world by helping people embrace a service-based lifestyle -- i.e. discover your life purpose, work to improve yourself, and become a vehicle of service to the world. If I can steer enough people towards this path, it will have a positive impact on this planet over the next few decades and beyond. |
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| Feisty doesn't even begin to describe Steve. Lord help us all |
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Darkworkers function as energy vampires, draining other people/souls as their power source. Look at the people who succumb to a darkworker (employees of a greedy corporation, people in abusive relationships, political prisoners, etc), and their spirits appear very drained indeed -- unless they too have become darkworkers. You can't be a successful darkworker without contributing to the creation of energetic slaves (either directly or indirectly). In order for you to become dominant, someone else must submit. A lightworker teaches people not to submit to fear and greed, thereby robbing darkworkers of their energy supply. |
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| I still don't see answered the comparison between this tenor or post about darkworker vs. the older one, and believe me, they sound vastly different - but I gather its not going to be. I also think the previous definition of darkworker, as defined here - as someone working for self, vs group - has obviously just changed to "collective, new-agey good, using light energy" vs "selfish, vampiric evil, using evil energy". It's sort of a shame, because it was interesting to consider both forms of paths as a service to the greater good, which is much more intricate and elegant view of things rather than "self-oriented = vampires". But I suppose the new definition of lightworker is hella more sexy, obviously, given everybody's reactions and everyone clamoring to identify themselves as "lightworkers". I was a little put off by it, actually - but reconsidering, I guess the darkworker that I always found neat to consider was not the same darkworker that he wrote about in this latest post. I suppose darkworker 1.0 versus the new darkworker 2.0 definition This sounds like someone saying "D&D is a bad game" and me getting annoyed, because I was thinking about D&D ver 2 - but if the person was talking about D&D ver 3 I'd agree. I guess I'm the only confused one. Seriously - nobody sees the darkworker definition here as definition from the previous one? Where I am getting lost? |
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| PrimaryErn, it's pretty clear that Steve changed his conception of darkworker to a more conventional form. I had big issues with Steve's old conception of Darkworker, but now with this post Steve has basically re-united with the classical idea of service-to-self and service-to-others. However, this still doesn't mean that darkworkers are something that should be looked down upon. They are valuable and deserving of love like everyone else. The big difference between New Age polarity and typical Christian good and evil is the realization that evil is not overcome by fighting it or killing it, but by loving it. Today, we don't need to take this on faith, because we have scientific proof. (Found here: Invincible Defense Technology Command Center ) Erin and Steve have both made posts leading up to it but I never felt that Steve was really understanding the negative polarity until he wrote this post. Here's an old post from Erin about how to Fight Supreme Evil: Fighting Supreme Evil I think it's right on. Here's a post I made in 2006 criticizing Steve's old idea of Darkworkers. You'll notice the criticism doesn't apply to his new Darkworkers, DW 3.0 if you want to call it that: If selfishness isn't evil, then what is evil? Of course, I still have some objections about his metaphor for lightworkers Anyway I think we can all agree that metaphors, labels, and thought experiments are just fingers pointing at the moon. The moon is God* and there are many different ways to point at him. It is not necessary that ideas always be consistent with each other in order to be valuable. If someone feels called to be a darkworker, that is legitimate service and they should consider exploring it. I explored it excessively at one point and I found that it led to enhanced suffering, but paradoxically it allowed me to appreciate unconditional love even more when I reversed my polarity. This is part of the paradoxical nature of good and evil, both being valuable in their own odd way, eventually re-uniting with the creator in Oneness where there is no polarity and no suffering. Last edited by yossarian : 04-18-2008 at 01:55 AM. |

