Manifesting Intentions about Manifesting Intentions
 

Yesterday I manifested an intention into the universe to learn how to manifest my intentions much more powerfully.

Do you think it will work? :D

Anyway - seriously - I got a couple of weird ideas popping into my head about IM yesterday. One was to use this affirmation:

"My powers are vast."

The other was to write a diary. An imaginary diary, of an imaginary life. My imaginary life. A version of it, where everything is going pretty much the way I would like it to go. :)

Since I am an ALG fan I decided to look at threads started by you.

This thread, created in Fall of 2006, deserves a BUMP, in my opinion.

Would you say your intention is being manifested? :D :cool:

I second that bump.

Amazing, ALG. :cool:
You warned us beforehand that you would blog about "an imaginary life" and we all thought that your IM successes were based on real life experiences. :D

HAhahaaaha. :p

No, when I write in this forum about my experiences, they are my real-life experiences. When I write in my blogs, those are also my real-life experiences.

My imaginary experiences are written in a separate notebook - they are all really the writing-based sorts of LOA exercises. However, these days the writing-based sorts of LOA exercises are no longer my favoured methods. My favoured methods all involve closing my eyes; relaxing; going to alpha; visualising my intentions etc.

As for the "My Powers Are Vast" thing, I must admit that for the purposes of my IM sessions, increasing my LOA abilities is one of the more regularly recurring intentions. In other words, I regularly intend things that are designed to make me better at LOA / IM / magick etc.

I do believe it works .....

You know I keep hearing you say this and it totally makes sense, yet I never seem to set that intention.

Doh! I gotta get on that. Setting an intention for getting better at manifesting intentions is brilliant!

It's like speeding up time.

So when you say your powers are vast, I guess you're referring to the imaginary world?.. :)

Nah, he's talking about the real world. In the imaginary world he's actually chosen to shrink himself to the size of a chipmunk and he runs around aimlessly trying not to get hit by cars.

:D

Ah, if you only knew what imagination really is ....!

"You say that God speaks to you - but it's only your imagination." These words were declared to Joan of Arc, at her trial, by her inquisitors.

Replied Joan of Arc: "Of course. How else does God speak to us?"

In the conventional world, we have certain notions of what imagination is. We say, "Oh, that was just your imagination" and by this, we mean: "It's not real, it has no significance, don't waste your time on it."

But when you start studying magick (which is really a form of LOA), you get a very different perspective of imagination. Will and imagination are the two fundamental tools of magick.

Imagination is how you create something on the astral plane. Will is how you supply power to that thing you've created. All things which exist in physical reality must first exist on the astral plane. All things which exist on the astral plane and are sufficiently empowered must eventually manifest in our physical reality.

Going back to the famous blue feather LOA experiment - when you visualise a blue feather, you are creating it on the astral form. The creation is instantaneous. Supply enough power, and the blue feather must pop into your physical reality. It will find its way to manifest, and it will manifest in a manner consistent with the rules of your physical reality - but it must manifest, if it has enough power.

That's how it works ....

beleifs about your manifesting ability
 

hi,

it is important to explore, understand and alter your beliefs about your beleifs, and your beleifs about your ability to consciously create.

We all have ideas about the law of attraction that will effect your ability to use the LOA and through altering and improving those ideas you can increase your ability to use the law of attraction, your imagination really is the limit..

I have the these (and more) core beleifs about myself and conscious creation:

I have an enourmeous natural ability to create a fantastic life.

My createive powers and abiltites create the very best life.

I have the power of the gods to choose my experience.

Everyday my creative abiltities become more powerful.

Changing my beleifs is easy

I always focus more than enough energy to create all that is best for myself, my family and world i experience.


these, and other core beleifs, have helped me create a great life and may be helpful for you to think about,

dave

That means there must be a lot of money in the astral plane, from so many people asking for it. Can anyone access those thoughtforms?

Looks like I must have will issues, because I can and have visualized like a mad fiend since childhood :confused:

Imagining about imaginings
 

Before anyone jumps in to tell you several reasons why your intentions aren't being manifested, I'd like to say that your experience is probably quite normal, and in fact intentions don't "manifest" in a magical way from the astral plane to the physical.

In a much more limited way, of course, we influence our reality by what we think, and in particular our negative thoughts about ourselves can cause us to have low self esteem and not try for things we could acheive if we only believed in ourselves. But blue feathers and money don't manifest out of our imagination.

What does come from our imagination is belief, and it's often possible to hold a pleasing or self-congratulatory belief that is utterly incorrect, because so far no fact has disproved it, or we have not noticed any fact that disproves it.

Dave Marshal has, for instance, several core beliefs from which he believes he has created for himself a great life, when it is entirely possible that his great life is largely due to other factors that he doesn't consider: perhaps his relatively great opportunities in life, not being born into slavery, the ordinary (non-magical) processes of cause and effect and a helpful confidence in his magical powers (which cause him to try things where others might not)...and even the LoL (Law of Luck :D), which can be demonstrated very efficiently by intending to get 10 straight heads and tossing a coin.

You appear not to have been so lucky. It is a great pity that in addition to bad luck, somtimes people are told that it's their fault because they only get the reality they attract to themselves.

ALG, good luck increasing your manifestation proficiency. Of course, the nature of reality might be that we have a fixed proficiency quotient and some are just better at it than others. It also might be that none of us have a magical ability to manifest at all, but some of us are more imaginative than others, and some are prone to magical beliefs than others, while reality goes on doing what it was doing regardless. Are Christians and atheists both right, just in their own "realities"? Can we make God real or unreal by our intention?

Impaul99, it does not "totally make sense" and it's nothing like "speeding up time". It's more like "intentinally increasing the gap between one's mental functioning and reality".

Is there any significant difference between 'magick' and 'magic', ALG, or does it just help you imagine it's possible?

Love
John

John, I have had many a debate with my "inner skeptic", but the only way I can truly settle the matter for myself is to gain and apply as full an understanding of the pro-IM argument as possible.

Since you took the time and trouble to reply to me directly, I feel it's only fair to let you know that I am, by conscious choice, presently avoiding all pro-vs.-con" threads and posts. They're too much of a distraction under the conditions I've set for myself.

Certainly. You can look up the difference yourself in the dictionary.

Oh really? So now I have to check with you to know what "makes sense" and what doesn't for me?

I realize that you're probably an "Intention Manifestation" skeptic. Let me save you some time. Don't bother trying to "convert" me (or ALG for that matter) or prove to me that my version of reality is "unrealistic". I'm writing this from the office of my house sitting on a 5 acre property I paid for by manifesting the money for it using LoA. Out of the +1,200 posts I've got on this forum since it began, I'd probably say 75% of them are related to defending and teaching LoA techniques.

I also run a Blog and have written eBooks which talk about Law of Attraction. There is really nothing you can possibly say that would convince me that Intention Manifestation isn't real, or that LoA doesn't work as I have already proven to myself, to my wife and family members that it does.

I'm perfectly happy for you if you don't believe in LoA and IM, and I'm not saying you or anyone else has to believe in it. But please don't tell me what makes sense to me and what doesn't, as I very much prefer to make that decision on my own.

Thanks!

Yes. I am the only part of the reality you have created for yourself that knows what reality is. You attracted me into existence, and this thread, to wake you up to reality. I have absolutely no objective existence. There's no point arguing with me. :D

Very good. You have been paying attention.

It's ok. None of those subjective impressions of yours is of much concern to me. I'd guess it's more like 88% pro, and your property is actually 5.07 acres. I imagine ALG can be responsible for his own conversions.

Yes. You and lots of other people. However, my point is that talking about the Law of Attraction - no matter how much of the net is taken up by it - doesn't make it come true. I wonder how many people write blogs talking about fundamental christianity, or how they were born on Venus and find it a bit warm here. People have blogs about materialism, scepticism and how they built a nuclear power station out of belly-button fluff and keep it in a matchbox (probably).

...I have little doubt of that, but find it odd when people almost seem to be boasting about how closed their minds are...You have a very loose idea of what constitutes proof, that's all. You are thinking superstitiously.

But since you manifested me, I don't really see the problem. Just unimagine me (or if your IM skills aren't up to that just yet, you can probably block posts from me so you don't have to see them anymore). It's fine by me. I'm not really posting here for the benefit of people who refuse to consider other points of view from the one they already hold. I just wanted to express the counter-opinion to yours, that it doesn't "totally make sense".

You're welcome!

Sorry, ALG. I did look it up at wikipedia, but I really don't see the difference. The information coincided with my expectation, that (a) "magick" would probably have some archaic use, and (b) that it would have been reappropriated in modern times by some esotericist or other, looking to validate what is, essentially "magic".

Oh, plus, of course, the numerology around the letter 'k' that is absolutely de rigeur in new age circkles. I ckan't discern any cklearly funcktional difference though.

From my understanding "Magic" = tricks, card tricks, coin tricks, David Copperfield, David Blaine, etc. Meaning, let me show you some Magic, but we all agree that it's all just trickery and illusion.

"Magick" is the 'real stuff'. Meaning, spells, crystals, etc. It's not supposed to be trickery and illusion but rather how to really manipulate reality. I don't think you'll find "How to palm a coin" in a Magick book. You'll find it in a Magic book.

THat's my understanding of the difference between the two.

Well, at least this time I managed to manifest you to be a little bit more intelligent than your predecessors. Hey ALG, "upgrades!". Might have to use both hands for this one. :)

On second thought, lets save some time. John, I forgive you and I love you.

Now please, save me from my delusional fantasy thinking and tell me all about how reality really works.

I guess you wouldn't be able. Generally, you see what you believe, and you don't see what you don't believe. And that's simply the effect of your own mind and senses, opening & closing themselves in accordance with your beliefs.

For example, your latest posts indicate that you believe that the forum participants here are deluded idiots. Therefore your mind & senses automatically begin closing themselves against any contrary evidence. Thus when you go to Wikipedia, and you see nothing explaining the term "magick". This supports your belief that ALG is engaging in silly, fanciful, childish thinking again.

Me, I type one word - "Magick" into Google.

Instantly the No. 1 Google search result is a Wikipedia entry on "magick".

I click on the link. Immediately I see on my screen, without having to scroll or click anything, the explanation of "magick" and "magic".

I apologise for being rather confrontational in suggesting that maybe you like to use the spelling as a way of avoiding the implications of saying "magic". I am sorry, it was rather harsh, but you do not exactly help your case by replying that I should look it up in a dictionary. I feel you might be projecting your discomfort when you accuse me of thinking that the forum is populated by deluded idiots, however, which suggests that I am being malicious and angry in my postings. It was meant as a strong challenge to you rather than an insult. I am just trying to discuss whether the world is magical or not, and spelling isn't going to change that. Since you haven't actually helped me understand the difference yet, I'll take it as the obvious, as per impaul99 - magic is pretend, magick is real.

Kind of QED then, isn't it. The definition includes the assertion of its reliability. So, if someone manifests a blue feather in front of me in the orchestra pit, they performed a miracle, but if they get up on stage and do it, I should discount it, right?

If someone manifested you, it might be good for you to believe in intention-manifestation....or else your whole existence shatters in some kind of philosophical paradox.

ALG, you make a post a few years ago, someone decides to bump it only because they are an ALG fan and read your posts.....so then someone comes into the post vehemently denying and defying your viewpoints....Maybe this could all have something to do with answering your initial question of strengthening your manifesting abilities....and you DID manifest Mr. Freestone!! All in all, I'm sure he's helping you and many others solidify reasons intention-manifestation works so well! ;)

I am not particularly interested in making out any particular sort of "case", for you or to you.

I suggested that you look up the term for yourself, simply because I thought that this would be the most convenient way for you to convince yourself as to the meaning of this particular term. I mean, you weren't just going to BELIEVE me, were you.

For you perhaps. Personally I prefer a good theoretical understanding combined with direct experience.

By "theoretical understanding", I merely mean an understanding of what the principles, methods and philosophy of the topic; and not necessarily actual acceptance or agreement with it.

By "direct experience", I mean .... Oh wait, you were once rather Buddhist, so you do know what good old Gautama said about direct experience, don't you.

Anyway, if or when you have some theoretical understanding and a little direct experience of the topic, we could discuss further. Till then, the discussion would be quite fruitless for you as well as me. It does seem unlikely at this point that you have any theoretical understanding or direct experience of magick, since until a day ago, you did not even know the word.

For now, all I will make are a few rather obvious propositions -

1. If your thoughts can affect your reality at all, then it is at least reasonable to suppose that unusual methods of thinking could affect your reality in unusual ways;

2. Unusual methods of thinking might include hypnosis; NLP; meditation; positive affirmations; creative visualisation; prayer; or simply, magick.

The labels & definitions don't particularly interest me, although they do serve some limited purpose for intellectual pigeonholing. I say "limited" because there are things which people do, which could equally be classified as "prayer" or "magick"; or "prayer" or "meditation"; or "meditation" or "hypnosis"; or "hypnosis" or "creative visualisation".

On my own blog, when recording my personal experiences, I have given up on the labels. I simply call each of my experiences "a mind session".

Some recommended books for people interested in finding out more about magick:

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Note: I haven't read "True Magick" myself, but I've come across many reviews which say it's pretty good for beginners.

I'm sorry to bother you. Let's leave this and I'll argue my case with other people, or I'll do it talking to myself. I don't care. I'm interested in working out honestly, with people who can be bothered to think, a bit more about the way the world works.

From what I gather, then, you have transcended reductionist thinking, "given up on the labels". Your numbered hypotheses now use "suppose" instead of "propose"; there's nothing to test when you're only problem is how to make yourself believe even more than you already do.

I think that our continuing to discuss this would be fruitless for you not because of a lack of understanding or experience on my part, but because you refuse to respond honestly and rationally. It seems ridiculous to assume that my not having read about psychic phenomena under the specific label "magick" means that I do not have sufficient knowledge or experience to hold a reasonable and polite discussion of the issues.

In fact, I am not interested in whether it is fruitful for you, and I am perfectly capable of deciding what may be fruitful for myself. My main motivation for discussing these issues as rationally and politely as possible is because this is a public space where superstition and supposition are rife, and where some people might benefit greatly from overcoming these insidious flaws that have kept people chained to religion for the whole of human history.

You seem unlikely to wake up. I imagine, with some sadness, that arguing with you might actually entrench you further. It seems to me that you keep choosing to bolster your suppositions, even to the point of refusing to discriminate between different mental processes by using different "labels" (yet, notably, telling me that I don't understand "magick" because I haven't read the definition of the word in wikipedia).

Clearly, to many of you, this is a good thing. Danman85 said "All in all, I'm sure he's helping you and many others solidify reasons intention-manifestation works so well!" Perhaps I am helping you solidify reasons why you think it works so well. But I hope that my posts will help others, those further away from the event horizon of this philosophical black hole.

You can dive in, go on, take the plunge into subjective reality and to hell with making sense anymore. And once you're inside, well, anything can happen can't it. Magick. Alternatively, it does seem to have negative effects on ones mental functioning. Nothing is testable anymore. Anything anyone tells you is true unless they disagree with you. Truth is exactly what you decide you're going to believe.

It scares me, because it makes the job of oppressors so much easier when you've virtually blown your own brains out.

Don't jump to conclusions, Mr Freestone. This is my 1,946th post on this forum and I have participated in numerous interesting discussions here.

Just because I refuse to discuss any further with you doesn't mean that I am not generally open to discussion. In fact, in the course of my 1,946 posts, you are only about the 2nd person here that I've ever decided not to further engage. Perhaps that reflects something more about you than me.

From this -

"ALG refuses to further discuss with Mr Freestone"

it takes quite a wild leap to get to;

"ALG now thinks that nothing is testable"

or

"ALG must be suffering from negative effects on his mental functioning".

But your wild leaps do assure me that I am making the right decision in deciding not to discuss further with you. I am already a bit slow here - Wax Frog, impaul99 and Dave marshall caught on a lot earlier, judging from their responses to you (or in Dave's case, his non-response to you).

John, beyond certain point, there is no point to really argue about this subject or many/most others on this site. People believe what they want to believe. Whether that has anything to do with reality does not make any difference. This has been the case since dawn of human race. Its nothing new under sun.

However, if you want to crystalize your thinking and positions it can be good. You don't do that in place where everyone agrees with you ;)

The LOA is another dream of getting riches, happiness, health, everything you want easy way. Similar to lottery.

On another hand, I will say, LOA has its good side in so far as it helps put people in right frame of mind so they get strength to go after their dreams. In most cases we are the ones standing between us and things we want. If that gets barrier down then its good.

LOA won't magically give you anything, but if it you are willing to work hard for what you want and LOA gives you the strength to do so then go for it.

I see personally belief in LOA to be limiting though. There is no magical force bringing things to you. Or you attracting things. You are the one earning them. You are the one that must believe in himself/herself. Not in some hogwash Law Of Attraction... LOA will not help you when hard-times hit. Belief in yourself that you can overcome will.

Yes, I want to discuss the issues and I understand that discussion involves differences of opinion. I don't want everyone to agree with me. I want there to be a voice of reason pointing out the dangers and philosophical problems of believing in magic(k), and to keep restating the possibility (indeed the great probablity, in my view) that Intention Manifestation works, if and when it does, through complex biological and physical processes, rather than supernatural powers.

I am aware that one of the problems of doing that in discussion is that if someone like ALG believes in magick, their magical thinking allows them to sidestep, to some extent or fully, reason and logic. It could be argued that it is internally logical to do so: maybe logic, labels, reason, and scientific experiments are, in a magical world, largely irrelevant.

Absolutely. I'm not against people waking up to how they limit themselves with negative thoughts. I'm all for people using positive thinking. There's even a place for hope against hope when things look impossible. I just think there's a big difference between that and how the LoA is being sold.

I agree up to a point with your general drift. Even so, I'd have to say "belief in yourself that you can overcome might". Belief in yourself is likely to help. It doesn't stop trucks or bullets or make fascist armies turn tail on its own. Belief encourages. But I think you meant that.

I think LoA is amazing because it allows people to believe, and others not to believe.