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Old 11-30-2006, 01:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I use Hemi-Sync much to a definite affect. I fully believe in the product and highly support it. I have heard claims that Holosync is more effective in contributing to altering states of the mind than Hemi-Sync; Pavlina recently mentions that the Learning Strategies' Paraliminal CD series incorporates Holosync technologies. I have requested a free preview CD from Holosync, but unfortunately it has yet to arrive in the mail. Frankly, my determination so far is that I have been using Hemi-Sync with extreme success, including their music cd's like Break Through and Indigo for Quantum Focus (both of which are labeled under the category "Metamusic") which temporarily heightens creativity, focus, and attention (for long term results in areas such as addiction recovery, help with ADD, immune system boost, sleep, and more Cd's are available under the designation of Human Plus or H-Plus).

I definitely believe (as well as experience of results) that technology can help us in our endeavors of personal development and self-improvement. There are rumors that Holosync includes technologies (including but other than binaural beats) that make the technology more effective. If anyone has experience in such matters, I am truly interested in learning of your experiences.

I suppose if no one has experience with both, I may just have to find out for myself which would be fun. Thanks everyone.
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This is one of those things that sounds sorta gimmicky and is easy to knock off as worthless. But I think there might be something to stuff like this.

I tried a few of brain sync's products (Brain Sync Brain Wave Therapy | Mediation, Relaxation, Mind Expansion and Self-Improvement) a while ago, and while not revolutionary, they definitely had at least some noticeable affect, which was kinda cool to experience.
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would the effects of holosync technology be diminished if a person is deaf in one ear?
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would the effects of holosync technology be diminished if a person is deaf in one ear?
I'm no expert on Holosync, but based on my understanding of how binaural beats work, I can't see it working with just one ear. The whole concept is based on stereo listening with headphones.
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Very interesting, thank you for the tip. I have had a surprising success in relaxing and feeling relaxed for quite a while by using a binural recording called Double Induction. You can download the free mp3 on this page.

I highly recommend it and wrote about it a bit here.
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You say that these CDs are able to quickly bring you down from even high anxiety states. But my question is, what exactly is "high" for you?

I suffer from chronic anxiety, and needless to say this post intrigued me. However, my anxiety states are definitely different than the average person. What most people would consider "stressed out", I would consider my normal state of functioning.

From how you described the binaural technology, it sounds like it shouldn't matter, as it has the effect of resetting the brain rather than relying on your conscious relaxation skills.

So, do you think they would have a significant calming effect even for those with higher than normal anxiety spells?

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I've been considering using CDs such as these for a few years now. My main objection is that I don't want somebody else's 'buggy code' inside my mind. From a coding perspective, you could view my personal model of PD as being similar to LFS, where basicly I write my own 'Distribution' or 'Development Plan' with only the 'code' that I have personally signed off on. I might feel differently if they were 'open source', where I could 'open the hood' and see what was going on and what they were trying to do. I can do that with books, blogs and lectures, but I'm not sure how that can be done with Paraliminals. As it is, if these CDs don't work for me, I would be more concerned with 'uninstalling' them than I would be about any warranty offered by the vendor.
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Stressful periods are rare for me, especially since I pick my projects and set my own hours. Recently though I've been setting them too aggressively.

The stress I experience happens when my reach exceeds my grasp -- I get frustrated when projects have to remain undone because there are too many other higher priorities ahead of it. This just means that Erin and I have reached the point where our business has grown too big for the two of us to continue going it alone.
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It seems like a wonderful product, but at this time, I do not believe it would be helpful because I am in a state of total inner peace right now anyway. I don't really get stressed anymore and I don't worry so much. I just flow. Maybe it could make this feeling better, but I could see a dependency start forming to these tapes, so I am not completely sure if I would be inclined to purchase such tools, but Steve, you gave a great example on how it has worked for you and maybe it could help me, but right now I don't really feel I need the help. I'm sure down the road, in the future, which doesn't exist, I may or may not need some sort of guidance to figure out my life and its purpose once again, but who knows what the future will bring? I do.
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I'm no expert on Holosync, but based on my understanding of how binaural beats work, I can't see it working with just one ear. The whole concept is based on stereo listening with headphones.
Because of Steve's post on paraliminals the other day, I tried the free paraliminal CD "Personal Genius" which was included in my Photoreading order. I'm partially deaf in one ear, and tried two sessions yesterday.

Since I wasn't trying to paying strict attention to hearing the binaural beats, I can't say I heard them. However, in my experience, it wasn't necessary. Both paraliminal sessions were remarkably effective. I just allowed the CD to take me wherever it would, and I experienced a wonderfully alert and relaxed state as a result. (So I ordered the set using Steve's discount code.)
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Can you actually hear and understand what the paraliminals are saying? Again, my main problemis not knowing the method they are using to achieve results. It would help if I could objectively 'view the code' before trying them, just to make sure that I'm not going to go running off looking for Jesus (Confound it, have they lost him AGAIN?).
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All the Paraliminal vocals are fully audible, so unlike subliminal recordings, you can hear them plain as day. There are no hidden messages. However, you may find it difficult to analyze the content while you're experiencing the program -- I certainly do. So when you want to analyze, you'll probably want to listen w/o headphones.

Personally I haven't heard anything on the Paraliminals I'd find objectionable. Mainly they seem geared towards encouraging you to take better advantage of your existing inner resources.
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All the Paraliminal vocals are fully audible, so unlike subliminal recordings, you can hear them plain as day. There are no hidden messages. However, you may find it difficult to analyze the content while you're experiencing the program -- I certainly do. So when you want to analyze, you'll probably want to listen w/o headphones.
Thanks. Having never heard these CDs before (I have heard recordings from the Monroe Institute, which do have subliminals) I did not know what to expect. I will probably analyze the CDs on my computer, isolating the individual tracks, mainly because it will be hard to analyze the left and right voices at the same time. How quickly do they ship? I am thinking this is probably a limited time offer, so if I don't order all of them at once, will I have time to test a few CDs before ordering another set? Also, do they work with the regular iPod 'ear buds' or would they work better with full-size headphones?
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The offer will be good at least until early January, but beyond that it's up to Learning Strategies.
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Well I've listened to one or two of them and I did feel a certain boost in mood. If done right you can't really concentrate on what exactly they're saying and instead go into a sort of meditative state where you're just absorbing what's being said. I've only used it minimally so far but I'll keep you guys updated on what I think of them.
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All the Paraliminal vocals are fully audible, so unlike subliminal recordings, you can hear them plain as day. There are no hidden messages. However, you may find it difficult to analyze the content while you're experiencing the program -- I certainly do. So when you want to analyze, you'll probably want to listen w/o headphones.
Do the recordings do an induction or relaxation script when they start or do they just launch into the audio program without doing an induction?

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There is an induction for each session, but the inductions are very short and simple, mostly basic instructions to get comfortable, close your eyes, relax, etc. I'm used to inductions that involve lots of deep breathing, guided imagery, and focused attention -- like self-hypnosis -- but the Paraliminals inductions are generally much more basic. I think they primarily rely on Holosync to get your mind into the proper state.
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Very interesting, thank you for the tip. I have had a surprising success in relaxing and feeling relaxed for quite a while by using a binural recording called Double Induction. You can download the free mp3 on this page.

I highly recommend it and wrote about it a bit here.
Thanks for posting this link. I've used it a few times and found it really helps me feel more relaxed and productive. I'm curious whether this is similar to the paraliminal CDs recommended by Steve.
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Karma Police: I was thinking about that too. I haven´t had the opportunity to try Paraliminals yet so I don´t know, but from reading Steve´s paraliminals-page they sound pretty similar. It would be very cool if the Paraliminals are as effective as The Double Induction.

Perhaps someone here have tried both recordings and can provide us with some information?
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Has anyone here tried the Gateway Experience hemisync stuff?

If so, could you compare the two products?
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I got the Paraliminal collection and have been using for about 5 days now. When I started noticing results it seemed a little spooky, I automatically knew what I should be doing to achieve my goals and felt much happier doing them. Work has become MUCH easier and productive. (I am an entrepreneur / programmer / graphic design artist / web designer / network admin / PC technician and everything else in between to get the job done.)

The 10 minute relaxation paraliminal is GREAT.

Like Steve mentioned in his post the holosync gets you in a relaxed meditative state every time you care to. It is quite euphoric.

This is my first time experimenting with this type of learning and all I can after 5 days is WOW.
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That's good to hear, because I ordered the paraliminal CDs last week, and they should arrive today.
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I too, am concerned with the idea that I can't juggle both voices in my mind and make sense of what they're saying. Should I not worry about this? Is my subconscious soaking it all in for me?
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I bought a bunch of paraliminals awhile ago. The most impressive one for me was the self-esteem booster. I used it one night before going to sleep and the next day I seriously felt what self esteem actually was. That was a interesting experience. It was funny because as I was walking around that day I knew something about me was a lot different but I couldn't figure out why. Then I thought back and remembered that I listened to the self-esteem CD the previous night and it all made sense. I haven't used paraliminals in awhile since for me the effects would wear off after like 3 days.

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I found that letting your subconscious simply absorb the words works a lot better than trying to pay attention to all the words consciously. Paying attention consciously seemed to hamper my results. Instead approach it like meditation, the words are just there going by and you're letting them pass through without locking on to any of them or judging them. Or also pretend it's like music where you're not trying to understand the words, just hearing them.
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I too, am concerned with the idea that I can't juggle both voices in my mind and make sense of what they're saying. Should I not worry about this? Is my subconscious soaking it all in for me?
Since it is in your ear it is a little more intense but it is sort of like being in a room where multiple conversation are taking place. If you really concentrate you can make out 2 different conversations at the same time. However, you can focus your attention on one conversation and follow it easy and the other(s) will seem like background noise.
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I had the same "can't concentrate on two things at the same time" problem. I find myself wanting to listen to one story but then I hear something interesting form the other side and miss what the side I was originally on had to say all together. I eventually gave up and just went into a meditative-ish state but I found myself coming back and trying to "learn" from the words. Maybe it takes some getting used too. I feel it did boost my mood quite a bit, and the words within touched me on a deeper level...

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I got the Paraliminal collection and have been using for about 5 days now. When I started noticing results it seemed a little spooky, I automatically knew what I should be doing to achieve my goals and felt much happier doing them. Work has become MUCH easier and productive. (I am an entrepreneur / programmer / graphic design artist / web designer / network admin / PC technician and everything else in between to get the job done.)

The 10 minute relaxation paraliminal is GREAT.

Like Steve mentioned in his post the holosync gets you in a relaxed meditative state every time you care to. It is quite euphoric.

This is my first time experimenting with this type of learning and all I can after 5 days is WOW.
Good to hear. I'd be interested to hear others' reviews too, been thinking of getting a few but it's kinda expensive!
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I ordered the full set on Saturday, and have not heard from Learning Strategies since immediately after I placed the order. Does anybody know how long they normally take to ship?
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I ordered the full set on Saturday, and have not heard from Learning Strategies since immediately after I placed the order. Does anybody know how long they normally take to ship?
I have not ordered this one.. yet, however when i ordered my photoreading course, i had it in my hands within a week of when i ordered it. I did not recieve a email that it had shipped.. i thought that was wierd, but it must be how they do things..

I really want to order these CDs... i just hope it says around until Jan so i can order them after i get presents for everyone else done...



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