Steve Pavlina bash-sites

[mlc82]

I have to agree with those as well who read the first blog in the first link, and then afterward was only thinking "Why did I just waste 5 minutes of my life reading that?". I learned/gained absolutely nothing from that big complaint list, while if it weren't for SteveP and the great people on this forum, it would never have even crossed my mind to start working on the website I'm building, and realize that there's other ways to make money than slaving away most of your awake life to fill someone else's pockets while you get the leftover change.

[jamestl2]

Originally Posted by mlc82

"Why did I just waste 5 minutes of my life reading that?". I learned/gained absolutely nothing from that big complaint list

Are you sure?

You haven't learned anything like "Now I know what to look for in bashers" or "Hmmm.... I never thought about critically examining Steve's site before"?


While the blog's content may be absurd, it does cause you to approach content in a new light. Altering viewpoints can cause you to think about things you haven't originally thought about before, IMO.

[mlc82]

Originally Posted by jamestl2

Are you sure?

You haven't learned anything like "Now I know what to look for in bashers" or "Hmmm.... I never thought about critically examining Steve's site before"?


While the blog's content may be absurd, it does cause you to approach content in a new light. Altering viewpoints can cause you to think about things you haven't originally thought about before, IMO.

I honestly didn't feel like I got a thing out of it, although what you mentioned above would be so subtle that I wouldn't notice anyway. After reading a good article, on this site or the bodybuilding site I frequent or whereever, I'm usually thinking "Hey that's a good idea I hadn't thought of, I need to try it!". After that one, it was more like "I really should have been doing laundry or something". I'm sure there's a meaning there, or some lesson learned, but not one of those reach out and smack you in the face exciting ones.

[Natsu]

Originally Posted by mlc82

According to that same logic, virtually every website I visit, from SteveP, to bodybuilding sites, PC game sites, you name it, must be a bunch of "scammers", because they all contain quite a few ad links.

When a message pops up saying "CLICK ON MY ADS OR PREPARE FOR YOUR HARD DRIVE TO BE REFORMATTED!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!" I'll call it out as a scam, but until then, I don't think it takes a genius to tell the ads from articles...

Totally agreed. That's what I disliked of that basher. He basically took every Pavlina reader for an idiot just because he thinks that advertising is evil. Which is absolutely ridiculous. I understand when people make fun of the typical guy who re-sends every spam he receives, or someone who believes everything. But that guy pretended to be "special" because he realized Steve was evil and "most people" don't. Please. We can tell an ad from a site link, thank you.

But some others have expressed it best: we simply feel better after reading Steve's site, we feel empowered, happy, joyful. That site offered nothing but reaffirmation for the ones who envy or despise Steve. If you don't know Steve but stumble into his site, you'll probably read something interesting. If you don't know Steve and stumble into that bashing site, you'll get nothing worthy for your time. That's the big difference.

[Natsu]

Originally Posted by jamestl2

Are you sure?

Yes.

Originally Posted by jamestl2

You haven't learned anything like "Now I know what to look for in bashers"

What I usually look for in bashers is some new information, sincere criticism and some jokes. But this one offered none of it. I think Cecil offered a link to a site that criticises Steve which really provides some very interesting information. This complainer only says nonsense about putting ads being scamming and getting money (while giving your content for free) being evil, and him and a few gifted people being the only ones to notice.

Originally Posted by jamestl2

or "Hmmm.... I never thought about critically examining Steve's site before"?

Whoever never thought about critically examining Steve's site before should be basically dumb. There may be some such people, but I think they are not among the majority of Steve's readers. I have heard people who love this site complaining about the "useless vegan articles", "useless psychic articles", "useless spirituality articles", "useless intention-manifestation articles", "useless insert-topic-I-am-not-interested-in-or-do-not-need-here articles". I have yet to meet the Steve reader who thinks of Steve as a flawless god, and I have yet to meet one of his readers who hasn't criticised one of Steve's articles at one point or the other.

Originally Posted by jamestl2

While the blog's content may be absurd, it does cause you to approach content in a new light.

It has caused me to approach the stupidity and conceit of human beings in a whole new light. As Enstein, now I think them unlimited.

Altering viewpoints can cause you to think about things you haven't originally thought about before, IMO.

When the opposite viewpoint is reasoned, logical, well-written, and has something new to say. This first article gave just absolutely nothing. In my humble opinion.