Personal Development for Smart People Forums

Personal Development for Smart PeopleTM Forums

 

Go Back   Personal Development for Smart People Forums > Steve & Erin Pavlina > Steve Pavlina

Notices

Steve Pavlina Discuss ideas, articles, and podcasts from StevePavlina.com. New threads are automatically generated for Steve's latest blog posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-23-2007, 12:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
qed
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 57
qed is on a distinguished road
Default Ask Steve - What Religion Are You? (Blog)

Quote:
I have many spiritual guides and role models, but the primary one is Jesus (Y’shua)
How do you mentally focus on a being whom you've never met in person? Well perhaps you did meet him, but assume that I haven't, but I'd like to. What do you exactly focus on? And how does 'the universe' know which person you are talking about? I mean I am sure he is not the only Jesus that ever lived.

Could you provide some guidance with this?
qed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 01:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
qed
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 57
qed is on a distinguished road
Default

Another thing is that Jesus probably did not speak English. How do you communicate with him then unless you speak his language? Is there a universal translator that takes care of this issue?
qed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 01:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master
 
Savage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 5,988
Savage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppable
Default

For me Jesus is just a mental construct. I grew up Christian, so Jesus is an easy reference for me to use. You could just as easily call it communicating with a part of your subconscious if you'd like. You communicate in your imagination, so no special translation equipment is necessary. It's a way of getting access to insights you might otherwise miss.

As far as the actual human being Jesus, I have no idea if he ever really existed or if his whole life was just a fabrication. Much of the Jesus mythology was duplicated from pre-Christian traditions and isn't unique. I don't put much credibility in the miracle stories. I do happen to like the idea of a service-centered life, so that's what I use.

You can have a mental communication with any character you wish, real or fictional, alive or dead. Each character helps bring up different parts of yourself.
__________________
Steve Pavlina
www.StevePavlina.com

Join me on: Twitter | Google+
Savage is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 06:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 63
estrella is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina View Post
You can have a mental communication with any character you wish, real or fictional, alive or dead. Each character helps bring up different parts of yourself.
Do you think that for instance, you, Steve, in *my* life (as I read your words on the forum and your blog), are a mental character, too?
Are these words that I'm writing down on that moment are mental communication?
Just a thought....... [btw: nothing to do with Jesus!]
estrella is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 10:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 8,749
Brutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud ofBrutha has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Do you think that for instance, you, Steve, in *my* life (as I read your words on the forum and your blog), are a mental character, too?
The picture that you have of Steve is probably different than the picture that Steve's parents have of him or the image that Steve's daughter has of him.
All those mental picture are more or less different mental characters of Steve.
Brutha is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 11:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 63
estrella is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutha View Post
The picture that you have of Steve is probably different than the picture that Steve's parents have of him or the image that Steve's daughter has of him.
All those mental picture are more or less different mental characters of Steve.
so, my picture of myself (of my ego! Not my "real Self" as you might call it) is certainly a mental character of my ego also. If my ego complaints, it's because it does not know what it really is.
estrella is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 06:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1
Hoover is on a distinguished road
Default

As far as the actual human being Jesus, I have no idea if he ever really existed or if his whole life was just a fabrication. Much of the Jesus mythology was duplicated from pre-Christian traditions and isn't unique. I don't put much credibility in the miracle stories. Steve Pavlina [/QUOTE]

Steve, one can not escape the fact that Jesus's life radically altered human history forever. He has been the dominant figure in the history of western culture for 20 centuries. There is enough secular evidence available to show
Jesus of Nazareth occupied this earth some 2006 years ago. Pagan, non jewish historians such as Roman historians Suetonius and Tacitus, Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius. His death by hanging was outlined in the Talmud
The devotion of his following was report by a jewish scholar Flavius Josephus 37AD. The New Testment details the martyrdom of his followers as well as His teachings.
Seek and you shall find, ask and God will reveal Himself to all. Prayer= mental communication

Last edited by Hoover; 01-01-2008 at 06:07 AM. Reason: grammer
Hoover is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 12:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master
 
Savage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 5,988
Savage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppableSavage is absolutely unstoppable
Default

I wouldn't say Jesus' life radically altered history so much as the posthumous marketing of it did.
__________________
Steve Pavlina
www.StevePavlina.com

Join me on: Twitter | Google+
Savage is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2008, 02:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 14
Revanto is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina View Post
I wouldn't say Jesus' life radically altered history so much as the posthumous marketing of it did.
Well, we don't really know what Jesus' life was really like anyway so rather it can be said that all we know is the illusion of Jesus' life.

We can't really rely on the Bible because, frankly, it is just a distorted history book. The longer the message was, the more distorted or misinterpreted it will become.

We can only really vaguely assume things about Jesus. And I don't care who someone is, they do NOT have a direct communication line with Jesus so cannot tell us about the 'real' Jesus.

But when you think about it, the illusion about somebody's life can sometimes be better than their real life. For example, Gandhi is well known for being a great pacifist but he was also a poor husband and father. Also, some people would say that what Gandhi did divided India rather than unite it. So, to me, I would rather think of Gandhi as the great man whose intentions where peaceful and his heart was in the right place. However, I will never force people to believe in my perspective of Gandhi or any other person because that is what the Church and many other religions do and this is a dangerous thing.

So, the illusion is OK just as long as decisions regarding others are not based purely on that illusion.

Revanto
Revanto is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Website vs. Blog (Steve please comment ...) brooksr Technology & Technical Skills 5 01-28-2009 08:25 PM
Happy Anniversary, Steve (Blog) Erin Pavlina Erin Pavlina 43 03-30-2008 09:03 PM
Question for Steve and Anyone Else Who Can Shed Some Light impaul99 Steve Pavlina 29 10-10-2007 11:14 AM
Blog Directory Refusal ginkgo Business & Financial 10 09-15-2007 04:55 AM
Making money with a blog website ginkgo Business & Financial 5 08-13-2007 07:05 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2010 by Pavlina LLC