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Old 08-07-2007, 06:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Thank you Max... that's probably the most encouraging thing I've ever heard you say.

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Old 08-07-2007, 02:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hi Max

I read your interesting posts and they trigger my couriosity as I don't seem to get the meaning behind your writtings. For example:

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.....Where do you think creative power/thought/choice comes from? Your physical mind/body/brain?......
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In another post you mention the following:

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"Create from your consciousness.......it's where all the power is."
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I have listened to some audios by Eckhart Tolle and Brian Tracy.

Eckhart Tolle suggest living the now with conscious /Space awareness.
Brian Tracy makes reference to something called Superconsious Mind as the secret of creativeness.

Can you explain to me please what you mean by saying "Create from your consciousness"?

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Old 08-07-2007, 10:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Thank you Max... that's probably the most encouraging thing I've ever heard you say.

*Breaths a sigh of relief*
You're welcome....but I do believe that everything I say is encouraging, otherwise I wouldn't say it.

*calms the doubting minds of others*

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Old 08-07-2007, 10:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Can you explain to me please what you mean by saying "Create from your consciousness"?

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Consciousness (your true self) created the human avatar (your physical body) as an observation point of consciousness creation, but as a trade off, you had to find a way to stop envoking full conscious power (instant manifestation of anything) which would spoil the self created perception that you're a human bean living a physical reality.

Consciousness (you) knows that to expereince creation there have to limits/rules, some can be bent, some broken, but there are rules, there has to be otherwise, you'd envoke all your conscious power and return instantly to perfection and that's not the point.

As you exist in a physical reality you start to sense that you have conscious power, you start to realise what you're truly capable of, which is manifesting stuff through thought (conscious choice) as you envoke more and more of your power, things start humming along nicely, but as you don't want it perfect, you through a few curve balls to keep it interesting like........you run out of money, love leaves you, tragedy, horror, annoying telemarketers, etc.

More and more you realise your true power and what is actually happening is you're aliging yourself with consciousness and conscious creative choice, which is pure creative power.

The secret or at least the whole point of PD is to do that at will as soon as possible, hence the comment.........'create from your consciousness'........you're doing that anyway, but you're not taking responsibility for it, you think it's god will, or LoA or IM, but it's really just you (as consciousness) creating everything by choice.

When you shift your identity to consciousness and not so much with your human bean, you're envoking more and morre of conscious choice/power. The human bean doesn't create anything, I know it looks that way, but as everything ever created by human beans starts as conscious choice (thought) then the creative power is thought and not effort.

Yes some effort is required as it's a physical reality, but there are many things that you create that output into physical reality with no physical effort. So the secret is to realise the truth (all creative power is conscious choice) and align your true self with that. Enjoy the output through your human bean and live a life.

Human beans are wonderful joyous creations designed to sense all creation and allow consciousness to experience it's creation, without the human bean consciousness can't expereince the dense physical creation of itself.

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Old 08-08-2007, 10:15 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Thanks Max. Your views are interesting but seem to conflict with some of my own views.

You believe that Creation comes from Thought and that Thought is consciousness.

I beleive thought is not consciousness. Thought is a story created by mind and it doesn't reflect the reality, the consiousness. It is all about the past or future and it is an illusion. It is not the present moment. Thought has nothing to do with the reality. It is all in our mind. That is why I separate thought from Consiousness.

For me, creation doesn't derive from the power of thought. Creation comes from the superconsious mind. Our superconsious mind functions regardless of our will. Our superconsious mind is somethig beyond thought. It creates ideas effortlessly (on the fly) and it is not based on thought but on a more complex mechanism based on our conscious experiences.

One example. When you want something to happen so much (=Thought) it doesn't happen. On the other hand, if you don't pay attention to something (=Thoughtless) it finally happens. So thought doesn't cause creativity. Thought is not the Cause and Creativity not its effect.

Thought is an Obsession that causes compalsive behaviour, expectations, and finally resenment. Daydreaming (intense thought on success) invokes false expactations, repressions, resentment. Daydreaming feels good and joyous at the moment, but doesn't last for long. The next day you may wake up full of dissapointment and depression because of it.

For max effectiveness 3 things are valid:

1- Consious awareness of space - (What is, IS)
2- Thoughtless clear timeless mind (No Past, No Future, No inflated egos. Drift of ego from Self to the Consiousness.
3- Superconsious Mind (The Genius within us)

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Old 08-09-2007, 05:18 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Thanks Max. Your views are interesting but seem to conflict with some of my own views.

You believe that Creation comes from Thought and that Thought is consciousness.

I beleive thought is not consciousness. Thought is a story created by mind and it doesn't reflect the reality, the consiousness. It is all about the past or future and it is an illusion. It is not the present moment. Thought has nothing to do with the reality. It is all in our mind. That is why I separate thought from Consiousness.

For me, creation doesn't derive from the power of thought. Creation comes from the superconsious mind. Our superconsious mind functions regardless of our will. Our superconsious mind is somethig beyond thought. It creates ideas effortlessly (on the fly) and it is not based on thought but on a more complex mechanism based on our conscious experiences.

One example. When you want something to happen so much (=Thought) it doesn't happen. On the other hand, if you don't pay attention to something (=Thoughtless) it finally happens. So thought doesn't cause creativity. Thought is not the Cause and Creativity not its effect.

Thought is an Obsession that causes compalsive behaviour, expectations, and finally resenment. Daydreaming (intense thought on success) invokes false expactations, repressions, resentment. Daydreaming feels good and joyous at the moment, but doesn't last for long. The next day you may wake up full of dissapointment and depression because of it.

For max effectiveness 3 things are valid:

1- Consious awareness of space - (What is, IS)
2- Thoughtless clear timeless mind (No Past, No Future, No inflated egos. Drift of ego from Self to the Consiousness.
3- Superconsious Mind (The Genius within us)

Thanks
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While I suspect that consciousness doesn't think or emote, it still needs a way to create in physical form or at least communicate with self while in physical form. I don't believe anyone in physical form can be in a thoughtless state, that's for when we return to perfection, return to consciousness.

The whole point (I believe) for consciousness to choose physical reality is to know everything it's not, so everything it's not is everything we are while still being consciousness.

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