|08-02-2007, 01:21 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2007
If subjective reality is true, where does objective reality come from?
I have only recently stumbled onto this site, where I found the 'light' personal development articles (the articles with tips on goals, decision making, etc...) extremely helpful and invigorating. With this in mind I decided to delve into the idea of subjective reality (as opposed to blanketing myself in ignorance as per usual), and am now adrift in a big sea of confusion.
Here are some of the problems my mind keeps getting stuck on:
1. If subjective reality is the true nature of reality, then why are we viewing an objective reality? Where did this view come from? From my understanding of subjective reality, there are no external influences. so while you can attribute objective reality to factors like social conditioning, the media, etc... these are manifestations, created from intentions, but why would these intentions exist? I guess what I'm really asking is where do the bad intentions come from that require the subjective view to transcend?
2. How can you teach someone else to view reality subjectively if you believe in a subjective reality? It seems if you want to teach others to view subjectively, you are accepting that they have a consciousness, which directly interferes with the idea of your own subjective reality. Steve, how do you hold both these ideas in tandem?
If anyone with a better SR lens on than me could shed some light on these points I would be very grateful, but please, only rip them to shreds if you plan on re-using them to make something better.
|08-02-2007, 05:01 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Where soul meets body.
All subjective reality really means in my opinion is that the observer and the observed are ultimately the same. Objective reality is the result of consensus perception. Imagine you are god. You dream up a reality and place yourself as an observer inside. You say, "Hmmmm...this perspective is interesting. I'll think i'll make another..." So you make another self or "eye" for your consciousness. Then you make another, and another, and another... Each one of these "eyes" is seeing the subjective reality from a slightly different perspective, and it is this difference/similarity in perspective between these subjective realities which gives rise to this thing called objectivity.
|08-02-2007, 05:06 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Objective reality is contained within subjective reality, just like a video game runs inside a computer. The objective world perceived by your senses is the simulation -- the game -- within the larger box. Why create the simulation? Because it has the potential to be an absolutely fascinating growth experience. Your lower, objective self may not always perceive it that way, but your higher, subjective self is soaking it all up. And ultimately all these physical beings walking around are part of the same higher self.
My understanding is that by objectifying aspects of itself and allowing those parts to interact, the higher self gets to experience contents of its own being in a whole new way.
|08-03-2007, 02:45 AM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
I believe subjective reality exists within objective reality on this plane of existence. The subjective perception changes objective reality to an extent - depending on how flexible it is - according to each person. The basic foundation on which subjective reality is formed remains unchanged.
|08-03-2007, 02:06 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Thanks for the replies everyone, it's certainly given my mind something to chew on. I quite like Anagogy's ideas, they seem to resonate a bit more with what I believe. I'm still in the sea of confusion but it feels like there might be a slight current pulling me towards something.
|04-19-2011, 05:34 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2007
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