autism bound to body or soul?

[Tobias Zimpel]

Hi,

as I wrote in my other post about levels of awareness, I believe to have aspergers syndrome, which is a form of autism.

I don't see it as an illness, nor as a disorder or disability, but simply as a certain form of living, processing information and feeling. I don't see it particularly negative, because although it makes some parts of my lift harder, it also makes a great deal of things easier for me. I'd see it more as a gift, although that particular gift brought me a lt of painful experiences to grow upon.

But I'm wondering whether autism is something bound to my soul, something that will stay with me in every incarnation, or somrthing "caused" by my body or mind, like being born without arms or something.

Are there any other auties os aspies around here who have thought about that and have some idea? (You may reply by private message if you donät want to do so in public).

Or have Steve or Erin some idea about it (or the spirits, for that matter...)?

There don't seem to be a lot of highly conscious aspies on the internet (or at least not where I searched for them...)

[Erin Pavlina]

You don't take autism with you when you go. No physical ailments go with you.

[Matthew Shea]

Mental illnesses (for lack of a better term) in general tend to revolve around how our brains are wired and how the different parts (don't) communicate with each other. That makes them essentially physical in nature, so I agree that they get left behind with the body when you pass on from this world. I believe that most, if not all of the world's major theologies would take a similar view. I know for a fact that Christianity does.

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

You don't take autism with you when you go. No physical ailments go with you.

Thanks, Erin, for the clarification. So it is something I got for this life - I stay with the term "gift" -, to provide me with a very special perspective on my life and the world at large. I believe that it comes with a special "mission" for my life, and some real difference I could make in the world and the life of other people.

Originally Posted by Matthew Shea

Mental illnesses (for lack of a better term)

Hm... let's call it other-than-normal-perception? No, not much better ;-)

in general tend to revolve around how our brains are wired and how the different parts (don't) communicate with each other. That makes them essentially physical in nature, so I agree that they get left behind with the body when you pass on from this world.

Since Erin said essentially the same, I believe that's true.

Thanks to both of you!

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

In another thread someone said Neurodiversity.

My boyfriend's little brother is Autistic. He's so awesome. He's pretty high functioning. He asks some of the most profoundly simple questions ever...really makes me think. He always brings a smile to my face.

[Matthew Shea]

Just to add to what I said, I'd view a condition like that as a wonderful challenge that, depending on how successfully you deal with it, could lead to much greater things after we pass on. I'm assuming a level of awareness that allows the affected person to comprehend the importance of that, but I would expect that most basically functional "neurally diverse" people (love that term, btw) could be helped to understand it in some fashion.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Tobias Zimpel

But I'm wondering whether autism is something bound to my soul, something that will stay with me in every incarnation, or somrthing "caused" by my body or mind, like being born without arms or something.

There are multitudes of possibility here. I believe the soul actually alters the genetic structure of the body when present. There are many case histories of genetic anomalies that have an apparent association with a past life experience. For example, someone will have a strange birth-mark on their face exactly where, in an alleged past life, they were shot in a war or what have you. There is the possibility that you are not a native soul to this planet and have a different type of soul pattern that doesn't merge well with its host body. And on the other side of the coin, it could be strictly related to the genetic structure of this body in your current life. Anyway, it's hard to say. How does it affect your emotional state of being?

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

There are multitudes of possibility here. I believe the soul actually alters the genetic structure of the body when present.

That makes sense to me, too.

There is the possibility that you are not a native soul to this planet

That means I belong to another planet? Maybe... Asperger's expresses in a general feeling of "Oops... wrong planet!" to many who have it. But that could/would also mean that I got here by purpose, wouldn't it?

Erin, could it be that the feeling of being on the wrong planet, that many autists have, has a real background?

And on the other side of the coin, it could be strictly related to the genetic structure of this body in your current life. Anyway, it's hard to say. How does it affect your emotional state of being?

Hard to say - and also hard to express. I have a strong feeling that I'm different compared to other people around me. But I don't feel wrong or something. I simply can't understand some concepts society seems to be built around (like I should care what other people are thinking about me, for example, or that I should lie to even the closest people around me for not hurting their misleaded egos...).

Overall I feel gifted and believe that neurotypical (=non-autistic) people are missing some beautiful experiences.

But not a long time ago, I felt miserable about being the way I am - I wanted to be "normal". And still some (or some more...) people around me seem to have a problem with the way I am, and some are constantly tryint to "heal" me, or trying to teach me things they believe my parents have missed to tell me - like what way to behave in front of others.

Or did I totally misinterperet your question? Emotions are still a part that is very hard to understand for me. It's hard to name and express my own feelings, although they are very intense to me. And it's even harder that others have feelings, too - and that they might be totaly differnt from what I would feel in the same situation.

Hm...

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by Matthew Shea

Just to add to what I said, I'd view a condition like that as a wonderful challenge that, depending on how successfully you deal with it, could lead to much greater things after we pass on.

I view it not only as a beautiful challenge, but also as a wonderful gift. And I strongly believe that it could and will lead me to great things even before I pass on.

I'm assuming a level of awareness that allows the affected person to comprehend the importance of that, but I would expect that most basically functional "neurally diverse" people (love that term, btw) could be helped to understand it in some fashion.

That could make a great job for an autist who got that concept first, wouldn't it?

[Old Soul]

But I don't feel wrong or something. I simply can't understand some concepts society seems to be built around (like I should care what other people are thinking about me,

Understood, I feel and think exactly the same way, I often walk up to the park at the end of our street and swing on the swing, sometimes I think there must be something off/ or odd about me, because no adults ever swing on swings, but to me it is so normal... I don't want to embaress my family , for the most part they except me just the way I am... I know I am different , I get really excited about things, find humor in things nobody else does ( my kids point this out to me, to get me calm down) I guess I should care what people think , but I am not hurting anyone ,

The doctors say I have bipolor disorder, which is fine... but I think it is just that I am more "purged" than the average bear :-) hehehe

[Erin Pavlina]

I read for someone who was schizophrenic and what I discovered was very interesting. Basically it was like his frequency was a little off. If the station his body was playing was 94.1, he was vibrating at 94.3, able to pick up infomration from 94.1 (physical) and 94.5 (ether). It was like he was not fully stepped into his physical existence.

I wonder if autism is similar.

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

I read for someone who was schizophrenic and what I discovered was very interesting. Basically it was like his frequency was a little off. If the station his body was playing was 94.1, he was vibrating at 94.3, able to pick up infomration from 94.1 (physical) and 94.5 (ether). It was like he was not fully stepped into his physical existence.

I wonder if autism is similar.

I don't think so - at least not between physical and ether. I can't relate to picking up information from the ether.

I'd really be interested in it - maybe I should get another reading so we can get a little more light on it?

[Erin Pavlina]

It may be different with autism or asperger's. If we do have another reading ask me about it during the read and let's see what the guides say.

[KLmasina]

Fasincating thread Tobias, loved reading through it.

Much of what we describe as an 'illness' is based on coming from a place of relativity. i.e. - we hold 50 to be the 'norm' so 100 is described as a condition.

So in this respect, in a society where everyone was autistic, the 'normal' person would be the one described as having a 'condition'.

This is because in order to comprehend the world, we always come from a particular perspective, and everything we perceive is relative.

I love the way you perceive your existence, and see the great gift in where you're coming from. This perception of yours will completely alter your experience, and make it a much more joyful one I'd imagine.

Old Soul...

Same thing - being 'bi-polar' is just a way that doctors describe behaviour patterns. It doesn't really mean anything. All that matters is how you react to it, and how you function within the whole. We all swing in energy from very low to very high. If we perceived an energy scale of 1 - 500, with the darkest depression sitting at 1 and the highest high at 500, most people would oscilate around 200 - 300. Those who are labelled bi-polar may swing between 1 - 500 more frequently. When this starts to interfere with your experience of life (hard to hold down a job if you're vibrating at 1 and can't even get out of bed...) then you take actions to regulate the energy level.

My own experience of mania was marked by me taking a serious of actions that continually raised my energetic level... of course I didn't know this at the time. But, when one doesn't eat, or sleep, and denies all emotions, and completely puts the mind/ego in charge of life, while dealing with a great trauma... the outcome is mania. Ungrounded, excessive energy and pyschotic perceptions of life based on what the ego WANTED to believe was true.

Erin, I was interested in what you said about the frequency level of the person you read for who was schizophrenic.

If we are all energetic beings... we must all have a frequency, which no doubt changes. Mania would be a very high frequency, depression low. Also when the soul was vibrating at a different level to the physical body... this too would create a different situation... like schizophrenia.

I can feel the different energetic states in my body now, and know how to respond in order to stay at a high level of functioning - i.e. how to ground, how to energize.