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Old 05-29-2007, 01:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Understanding life without time

We bealive that time really exists but I have discovered a different way of observing it. I don't bealive in time. I look on my life as if I always is the same, at least the source of myself is never changeing.
The normal way of observing life is that it is heading forward in time like this:



But in my point of view, life is not dependent on time. It might be difficult to understand but I look on it as life is going on the y-cordinate instead, like this:



So life is only going on the y-cordinate. Life is changeing but still the same.
This way of looking at it helps understanding and discovering the essence of life which is really taking place just now.

That is my perspective, hope you find it helpful or at least interesting

Comments or other theories are welcome!

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Old 05-29-2007, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's an interesting perspective -- and certainly well-founded in traditional metaphysical philosophy.

But my question is, does that perspective impel you to engage in the world in order to bring about positive change? Or is it conducive to inertia and allowing the world to pass you by?

The problem with the traditional spiritual paths that teach the realization of timeless oneness is that they don't teach you how to come back and make use of that for the good of all humanity. And that cannot mean simply the bodhisattva vows because if all of humanity were illuminated but disengaged the world would cease its creative motion.

But we know the nature of the universe is to expand, to evolve. So how can our nature be to disengage from that developmental process?

One way of looking at timelessness is that either the evolutionary process -- of which our consciousness is a manifestation -- continues endlessly, thus obviating the construct of time, or it doesn't and we cease to be around to observe the passage of time, also obviating its use to us.
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We have to have the illusion of time to observe growth of the avatar/mind/physical body, which is part of the whole creation of consciousness. Understanding the illusion of time, allows you to understand IM, which is also about growth. You manifest 24/7, but why do some things take longer and others very quickly? Because consciousness seeks it's creation to experience growth as fully as possible, there is no growth in instantly manifesting everything, that's consciousness power and that is not purpose.

Everything manifests instantly, the lenght of time perceived, depends on how much you want to grow.

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