SR + Ego = ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. SR + what = enlightenment?

[Maso]

SR + Ego = ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. SR + what = enlightenment?

Having recently discovered and become imersed in 'magic' (whatever the hell we wanna call it), im interested to know about some peoples opinions on managing ego (and the risk of over identifying) in the context of feeling so powerfull....


Anyone understand my question?..I cant explain my dilema better sorry.

[Shamou]

Hello Maso...

Very interesting to hear that you are in "the context of feeling so powerfull...." to use your own words...

Could you tell us what you have been able to achieve in that "context" and how it has changed your life...???

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[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Maso

on managing ego (and the risk of over identifying) in the context of feeling so powerfull....

That is your true state.
You left your true state, to taste the deliciousness of 'weakness' by coming 'here'.

Don't worry about it.

[Maso]

Power...as in...realizing the control I actually have over the direction my reality is heading, and power..as in...becoming aware, that if I choose to, I can have a positive effect on the people arond me...deliberately. And power...from being lifted out of a cycle of excuses for my faults...and power from realizing that I can dissolve my identity..and become a malleable entity...

Power..being in the drivers seat?
Apprehension about falling out again....

P.S Some things I have read/experienced and believe in, to put things in context:

Hypnosis (being and doing)
Meditation (same thing? different purpose?)

That our unconcious/body will take in information from the outside world, based on what we tell it with our "thoughts"/controlled mind. If we love other people, or unconcious will see that, and then love us (because we are the same as other people (its an animal minded entity? The Herd..etc))

Reading auras..(we all do it, just gotta pay attention i think).


The challenge for me now is to... find the things that im still not truly concious of...

[Maso]

After reading lots of stuff in these forums...something has come to my attention.

Many people tend to doubt subjective reality or other similar fantastic ideas.

Dont people realize that as children, the vast majority of things we learnt..never existed to us before we learnt them?

Now transfer this idea to adults and the concept of spiritual (I hate that word) learning...maybe true conciousness/awareness is better...
Point is..how can we possiby know that there isnt more out there...why doubt? if not out of fear of losing our security in objective reality?
How can we all be more like children?

If fact some people remember being children and being more aware of auras, spirits...thier on conciousness, than they are now as adults.

By doubting our ability to shape our worlds...we stop trying to, and then we are just stimulus response junkies. The point is proved...its a circle...

All we have to do is take the step right? to be curious again...to break this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypnosis trick of modern society that hands us a reality on a platter, and says "this is all there is, eat it and die".

No thanks...Ill make my own dish. And Ill eat with my hands...like a child.Then I will laugh my ass off at the amazing fun I just had getting food all over me...then ill go climb a tree.

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sorry I ranted...

[ahimel]

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure." - Marianne Williamson

I have a card on my wall with that quote, because it really is what I fear. If Steve is right, if SR is right, and I can truly do anything I want.... I'm not sure I'm the kind of person you should hand that power to. I'm not sure I'd trust me with that.

It's intoxicating and beautiful to find that you're much more than you thought you were. But it can turn ugly very quickly if you use it to glorify yourself, or worse, to put others down. Of course that will quickly limit your abilities again as well, but it's best to simply avoid the whole problem in the first place.

What I use as my counter, or my ground, is love. When I take the power within myself and channel it into ego, it quickly crashes and burns and leaves me feeling awful. When I channel that power into love, it benefits all around me and continues to grow. I've only been able to sustain that cycle for a few days before I grow careless and slip back into a sleepy, pain-filled life of quiet desperation, but I'm getting better with practice. And when I love everyone around me, it helps me see them as part of myself, and to choose actions that truly benefit me because they benefit everyone.

Some people use the humility of religion in the same way. "In every victory/ let it be said of me/My source of strength, my source of hope/ is Christ alone." I suspect it amounts to the same thing. If you devote yourself to a higher cause than yourself (which may well include yourself, it just also has to include more) it prevents that "BS".

[Mark Lapierre]

Originally Posted by Maso

Dont people realize that as children, the vast majority of things we learnt..never existed to us before we learnt them?

Now transfer this idea to adults and the concept of spiritual (I hate that word) learning...maybe true conciousness/awareness is better...
Point is..how can we possiby know that there isnt more out there...why doubt? if not out of fear of losing our security in objective reality?
How can we all be more like children?

...

All we have to do is take the step right? to be curious again...to break this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypnosis trick of modern society that hands us a reality on a platter, and says "this is all there is, eat it and die".

Perhaps it's because as we grew up we learned that the things we imagined as children were not real.

You said we should be curious, and we should not fear losing the security a belief in objective reality provides. I see some aspects of spirituality as having the same potential flaws. (and by that I don't mean spirituality as a whole, but rather the unquestioning nature of some people's beliefs)

To me belief in some aspects of spirituality is a denial of the intricate, ever wonderful, always enlightening nature of the universe. It denies curiosity by creating fantastic stories about reality, without verifying that those stories are valid. It is a child's belief in the tooth fairy.

As for the security a certain belief system can provide, I think similarities can be drawn between approaches to science and spirituality. Science believes in an objective universe and some scientists may be afraid to consider a wholly subjective universe in case they're wrong. Spirituality is no different; some believers cling to their beliefs because of the comfort they provide, comfort which a truly objective reality would tear away from them with torturous violence.

But in both belief systems the tools employed work well where they operate best. Science helps us understand what we observe. Spirituality helps us accept and enjoy what we experience.