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Mark24 05-17-2007 07:41 PM

Finding Your Higher Self
 
When this connection is made do you have a inner feeling of happiness and life for the moment and believe you can do almost anything.

Shamou 05-17-2007 09:52 PM

That is quite interesting Mark... how do you define that "higher self...???"

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infinitethoughts 05-17-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark24 (Post 72067)
When this connection is made do you have a inner feeling of happiness and life for the moment and believe you can do almost anything.

The ego and 'higher self' are one.
To seperate them, is really just semantics.

Me saying this could start a 'thread war' tho.
:)

Here's a good thread explaining how to achieve what you talked about.

Shamou 05-18-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by infinitethoughts (Post 72123)
The ego and 'higher self' are one.
To seperate them, is really just semantics.

Me saying this could start a 'thread war' tho.
:)

And I thought that the ego was the result of the equilibrium between the id and the superego...

Where did I go wrong...??? :p

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Max Power 05-18-2007 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by infinitethoughts (Post 72123)
The ego and 'higher self' are one.
To seperate them, is really just semantics.

I always considered higher self to be the true nature of self as in pure consciousness/awareness unattached to a physicality and ego to be the mind/body/physicality that higher self users to enjoy the physical plane.

To me that are seperate yet seemingly connected.

Max

Cantando 05-18-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Power (Post 72214)
I always considered higher self to be the true nature of self as in pure consciousness/awareness unattached to a physicality and ego

I agree with that. I know it's probably not the correct psychoanalytical definition, but I have always thought of the ego as the spoilt child in me, having a tantrum; the part of me that says, 'Gimme, gimme, gimme', 'I'm right and you're wrong', 'Only I count, nothing else'.
If you feed it enough, you may turn into some kind of power-mad dictator.

Kazeko 05-18-2007 11:03 AM

Just started to having an interest in this topic recently.

After reading http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-power-of-now/.

Yesterday started the "Power of Now" book. All the questiions are finally answered.

"Take the red pill... and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..."

Whoa :cool:

Erin Pavlina 05-18-2007 01:17 PM

I discuss the Higher Self in this blog entry which you may find useful.

Erin Pavlina’s Blog » Blog Archive » How to Meet your Higher Self

Kazeko 05-18-2007 01:45 PM

Thanks for reminding me about the entry and making a nice synchronicity for me! I've already glanced through it today, and now I'm having a second closer look.

And there's a question. How to differenciate "visual" Higher Self from imagination? I've noticed that it's easier for me to listen in order to hear my HS. But I consider myself as "visual" kind of person - I can create images in my head quite easily. I also have a strong imagination. So how to avoid getting confused?

Edit: whoops, the answer is already given there, sorry. Great article! :)

infinitethoughts 05-18-2007 03:05 PM

Well going back to what I said.
Semantics.

What I mean is, if we use the words 'ego' and 'higher self'.....simply by using these words, we've created a division.

The real question is;
Is there this division?
Is there an exact dividing point between the 'ego' and the 'higher self'?
And do we create this division by using the words?

Or is it all one thing?

The very fact that one uses those words, creates a division.

What happens if we simply use the word 'I'?
(I AM.)

It is simply one thing. 'I'.

Does this make sense to anybody?

Shamou 05-20-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitethoughts (Post 72316)
Does this make sense to anybody?

I might when I have another beer... :p :D

But seriously... if we know what something is... there is no need for a definition... and Erin has elegantly described it when she said,

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Who is the Higher Self?

Your higher self is you. You in the ether. Your higher self is the real you, your total soul consciousness.

The you that is living here on Earth is just a projection of the consciousness of your higher self. Your higher self is the more complete you, the one that isn’t being frustrated by the veil that draws down upon us when we incarnate that causes us to forget where we came from.

The higher self is the one in possession of your spiritual contract, the plan you made for yourself before you incarnated. He or she has your instruction manual and your life plan in his/her hot little hands. Want to speak to him/her? Yeah, I thought you might. :)


infinitethoughts 05-21-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamou (Post 72911)
I might when I have another beer... :p :D

Lol.
I'll buy you a nice tall Lager.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamou (Post 72911)
and Erin has elegantly described it when she said,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin
Who is the Higher Self?

Your higher self is you. You in the ether. Your higher self is the real you, your total soul consciousness.

The you that is living here on Earth is just a projection of the consciousness of your higher self. Your higher self is the more complete you, the one that isn’t being frustrated by the veil that draws down upon us when we incarnate that causes us to forget where we came from.

The higher self is the one in possession of your spiritual contract, the plan you made for yourself before you incarnated. He or she has your instruction manual and your life plan in his/her hot little hands. Want to speak to him/her? Yeah, I thought you might.


Well here's the thing. I absolutely agree with Erin.

I'm just going a step further, one could say. And not to say Erin doesn't know this.

As long as one continues to use the words 'ego' and 'higherself', there's this artificial seperation.

Get rid of them, (waste of time).....then you "become" your "higher self" right here and now. (Even using the word "become" is limiting to me, but oh well.)
AND you KEEP your ego, at the same time.

It's like someone is pointing at the moon, and saying "Isn't that beautiful?" and the other person is staring at the finger nodding his head, saying "Yes it is."
:)

Thats how the "teachings" have become.
But then again it's all done on purpose.

Max Power 05-21-2007 11:08 PM

Higher self, true self, consciousness are the words to describe the ultimate power, or ultimate truth, you. It's not about finding it, for it is ever present, the trick lies in connecting with it. I have done this while awake, it lasts for a few fleeting seconds and it is the most incredible feeling, I wish I could experience it at will all the time (maybe with practice) but maybe that's not how it's supposed to be.

I chose to come here and then make my way back to perfection, back to full 100% consciousness in it's true state, not bound by physical raeality. It's like the body dies and you say "that was great, now I'm back to full, free consciousness, what should I try next" and off you go.

We seem to want a reminder of true self while here in reality so we never forget who we really are, like when you play a video game and can pause it to see that you are sitting in a chair with a controller in your hand. Dreams and attaining that connection while awake are the reminders.

Max


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