Kundalini rising- Need guidance

[Omerta]

I wondered how to avoid unnecessary suffering in kundalini rising, the pain is bad believe me. I have these huge headaches and intense flowing energy through my brain and body. I have altered states of consciousness and this huge pressure within my skull. How do I stay in the 3rd dimension like normal beings? And can I deactivate the third eye? I tried kundalini yoga but it led to even more painful activity in my head. That being said , I don't want to go further in this quest to consciousness, it is enough and ♥♥♥♥ ascension it is too scary and unreal in these higher dimensions. We are not prepared for this. Trust me on this you don't want to go there it's better as it is. HOW DO I END IT!?

[QuakerOats]

I had these issues too, the first few times i did kundalini meditations i ended up having a breakdown, like a horrible breakdown, and someone told me to do Guided kundalini meditations, so you dont spontaneously awake kundalini but instead softly and gradually do it...

I use Kelly Howell's guided kundalini awakening meditation, it can be found on youtube and or you can download it somewhere through google.

As far as backtracking in your quest, i dont know, do everything your ego tells you to do i suppose?

[BillyTheAdult]

You have made several threads on this already, are you following the advice given to you there? Stop meditating, stop doing yoga, stop engaging in spiritual activity and pursuit.

When you stop meditating there will most likely be some spiritual pain and anguish associated with that as well, but it will pass. Distract yourself with work or other extracurricular activities. When your thoughts start to turn negative, get up and do something, run around, watch tv, call a friend, force yourself to think about something else. If you don't have friends make a thread called "I need to talk", find a local support group, do whatever you need to do to stay distracted. DO NOT DWELL on your negative, self perpetuating thoughts.

Don't overreact. IT WILL PASS. and I can't stress this part enough,if you think you needtoSEE A DOCTOR! Either a physician to find out if there is something physical causing all of this, or a therapist or psychologist if it is all mental and you feel it is inescapable. Just remember a psychologist is going to talk to you and a psychiatrist is going to give you drugs, so you may want to decide which one you prefer prior to visiting.

Honestly I'm not discouraging others from responding to you, but this post should be all you need. When in doubt return to it, and follow it.

[Albalida]

Originally Posted by BillyTheAdult

You have made several threads on this already, are you following the advice given to you there?

I'd like to know this, too. If you don't even tell us how exactly it's not working, how can you expect anything other than the same advice?

[Luciddd]

What did you do to raise the Kundalini? I am curious, what method did you follow?

[raykilleen]

Recommending one practice the 8 limbs of yoga for years to avoid short circuiting their nervous system with tantric kundalini.

[Omerta]

Originally Posted by BillyTheAdult

You have made several threads on this already, are you following the advice given to you there? Stop meditating, stop doing yoga, stop engaging in spiritual activity and pursuit.

When you stop meditating there will most likely be some spiritual pain and anguish associated with that as well, but it will pass. Distract yourself with work or other extracurricular activities. When your thoughts start to turn negative, get up and do something, run around, watch tv, call a friend, force yourself to think about something else. If you don't have friends make a thread called "I need to talk", find a local support group, do whatever you need to do to stay distracted. DO NOT DWELL on your negative, self perpetuating thoughts.

Don't overreact. IT WILL PASS. and I can't stress this part enough,if you think you needtoSEE A DOCTOR! Either a physician to find out if there is something physical causing all of this, or a therapist or psychologist if it is all mental and you feel it is inescapable. Just remember a psychologist is going to talk to you and a psychiatrist is going to give you drugs, so you may want to decide which one you prefer prior to visiting.

Honestly I'm not discouraging others from responding to you, but this post should be all you need. When in doubt return to it, and follow it.

Look, I have a psychiatrist, I am on meds( antidepressants + antipsychotic) , I have a therapist and I found a yoga teacher who will guide me in this. She believes that my kundalini was activated too early and we are trying to work on it to ground the energies with special exercices. But I'm afraid that yoga will cause more suffering. I have been following all the advices, but it seems the kundalini doesn't care about what you do to stop here, she seems to go her own way whether you like it or not, she's the devil.

[BillyTheAdult]

How old are you exactly? and how early is too early to have kundalini activated.

Ram Bahadur Bomjon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Much the same way I warned a psychiatrist will want to cure you with drugs, and a psychologist will want to cure you with talk, a yoga teacher will want to do it with yoga.

What is it that you want? Will you be happy without spiritual pursuit? I think maybe you should just take up the practice of surrender and allow whatever state you find yourself in to wash over you, as there is no such thing as control anyway.

[Omerta]

Originally Posted by Luciddd

What did you do to raise the Kundalini? I am curious, what method did you follow?

Well, almost nothing, I started meditating this summer, I did it like 10 times. And some says that just reading a book and applying the ideas in our life may trigger it. Maybe that's what happened for me because of Echkart Tolle teachings.Apparently it triggered it . I found a book called Kundalini Rising; exploring the energy of awakening. It says she can raise on her own.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Relax.

[VinceG]

From what little I know of the kundalini, a full-scale raising can't be stopped once in motion. Best do as Chris says and relax. Symptoms will eventually subside and you'll return to some semblance of normal.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Omerta

Well, almost nothing, I started meditating this summer, I did it like 10 times. And some says that just reading a book and applying the ideas in our life may trigger it. Maybe that's what happened for me because of Echkart Tolle teachings.Apparently it triggered it . I found a book called Kundalini Rising; exploring the energy of awakening. It says she can raise on her own.

Omerta, You certainly have all your faculties, so you still have control. The process doesn't require fixing as it is all your negative energies are swirling around inside you. That is the point, it's all inside of you and you are in control, although it can be very overwhelming. This you can control also. The negative energy is trying to surface and you can allow it as much or as little you want to arise. A step at a time but allow it and it loses it's power.
Wishing you the strength and courage to take your life back. with love, Paula

[Arcanum]

I've been dealing with it myself for about 7 years now. For me, it's not as matter of psychology or medication or meditation. Folks love to make the situation complex and mysterious, but basically there's a river of energy flowing through your mind/body that pushes the limits of both.

Once released, it cannot be stopped, only allowed to flow, and so one must learn the true meaning of surrender. The slightest emotional resistance will result in a painful blockage to the flow. The flow itself does not cause pain, only the blockage, as a boulder dropped into a swiftly moving brook will cause a disturbance.

Massaging the physical area in which the blockage is expressed is extremely useful. It will exhibit itself as a localized pain or a tension. Relaxing the area with the mind can have the same effect. Breathing deeply and physical activity is extremely important in keeping the energy flowing properly, though be careful not to stimulate the root, thereby releasing more energy. The physical activity is a kind of internal massage.

I've also found that the focus of consciousness has a direct relationship to the intensity of this flow, which is what stimulated it in the first place. There are times that I'm so deeply submerged in what we'll call the Divine, that my heart aches and a river of fire burns through my body, and I must focus on a 'lower level' of attention, if you will. For me, that was 'Jackass' videos on the internet, for a time. (Hehe) Google it.

In any event, you may have to let go of 'spiritual matters' for a time until your body/mind can adjust. That doesn't sound like it's a problem for you. For the same reason, I would be inclined to avoid Yoga or any meditation.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Omerta, You certainly have all your faculties, so you still have control. The process doesn't require fixing as it is all your negative energies are swirling around inside you. That is the point, it's all inside of you and you are in control, although it can be very overwhelming. This you can control also. The negative energy is trying to surface and you can allow it as much or as little you want to arise. A step at a time but allow it and it loses it's power.
Wishing you the strength and courage to take your life back. with love, Paula

Strength and courage are extremely useful, but control is precisely the problem. The tiller must be released completely. Once awakened, the serpent cannot be put back to sleep.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

For me, that was 'Jackass' videos on the internet, for a time. (Hehe) Google it.

Didn't see that coming.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

Didn't see that coming.

Hehe.
I tried porn, because we all know that's a low level of consciousness, right? Not so much, really. Kids hurting themselves on purpose doing really stupid stuff, actually is. (Hope you're not a 'jackass' fan)

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Hehe.
I tried porn, because we all know that's a low level of consciousness, right? Not so much, really. Kids hurting themselves on purpose doing really stupid stuff, actually is. (Hope you're not a 'jackass' fan)

Did you try war movies?

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Hehe.
I tried porn, because we all know that's a low level of consciousness, right? Not so much, really. Kids hurting themselves on purpose doing really stupid stuff, actually is. (Hope you're not a 'jackass' fan)

We can't talk anymore. Jackass is serious business!

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Once released, it cannot be stopped, only allowed to flow, and so one must learn the true meaning of surrender. The slightest emotional resistance will result in a painful blockage to the flow. The flow itself does not cause pain, only the blockage, as a boulder dropped into a swiftly moving brook will cause a disturbance.

Yes. THIS. This right here.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Did you try war movies?

No, but 'crashes' seem to do the trick pretty well. (Airplanes, helicopters, cars, boats) On the other hand, natural disasters do not. I could make up a story about why, but I really don't know.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

We can't talk anymore. Jackass is serious business!

Oops!

[raykilleen]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

In any event, you may have to let go of 'spiritual matters' for a time until your body/mind can adjust. That doesn't sound like it's a problem for you. For the same reason, I would be inclined to avoid Yoga or any meditation.

I agree with the letting go of spiritual matters, this is what can happen if one is not prepared for the phenomenon of kundalini rising, it can be compared to running 50,000 volts through a 100 volt system. However thousands upon thousands of year’s trial and error with the 8 limbs of yoga were found to be helpful for this innate human happening i.e. a methodology of systematically tuning in the nervous system with asana, pranayama and relaxation techniques before progressing; therefore stop meditation, no more spiritual thinking but try some asana (physical exercise, working the blocks out), simple pranayama (control of the breath, no breaks or pauses, flowing smooth and deep) and shavasana (effortless relaxation leading to sleep).

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by raykilleen

I agree with the letting go of spiritual matters, this is what can happen if one is not prepared for the phenomenon of kundalini rising, it can be compared to running 50,000 volts through a 100 volt system. However thousands upon thousands of year’s trial and error with the 8 limbs of yoga were found to be helpful for this innate human happening i.e. a methodology of systematically tuning in the nervous system with asana, pranayama and relaxation techniques before progressing; therefore stop meditation, no more spiritual thinking but try some asana (physical exercise, working the blocks out), simple pranayama (control of the breath, no breaks or pauses, flowing smooth and deep) and shavasana (effortless relaxation leading to sleep).

Yes, as I say, that's what I've found works, though I'm not familiar with those techniques, specifically. (Well, that and Jackass videos. Hehe.)

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by raykilleen

However thousands upon thousands of year’s trial and error with the 8 limbs of yoga were found to be helpful for this innate human happening i.e. a methodology of systematically tuning in the nervous system with asana, pranayama and relaxation techniques before progressing;

Actually, though I understand and you're right, this is what I was referring to when I talked about how we tend to make the matter complex and mysterious, with 8 limbs of this and asana pranayama tuning methodology of that. Just stop throwing boulders in the river and you won't get wet.

Relax, move, breath, stop imagining problems to solve everywhere. It works well if there's Kundalini or not.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Once released, it cannot be stopped, only allowed to flow, and so one must learn the true meaning of surrender. The slightest emotional resistance will result in a painful blockage to the flow. The flow itself does not cause pain, only the blockage, as a boulder dropped into a swiftly moving brook will cause a disturbance.

Now, here, I never thought Kundalini energy could be even be experienced without surrender. I've never experienced it (I don't think), but David R. Hawkins has said numerous times that the sensation is 'exquisite'.

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Now, here, I never thought Kundalini energy could be even be experienced without surrender. I've never experienced it (I don't think), but David R. Hawkins has said numerous times that the sensation is 'exquisite'.

Pain can be exquisite too when the energy of the sensations are transformed. I experimented with this yesterday when I burned my hand. I've been given many such opportunities to transform energy lately.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Pain can be exquisite too when the energy of the sensations are transformed. I experimented with this yesterday when I burned my hand. I've been given many such opportunities to transform energy lately.

Is this what I'm doing, as I sometimes enjoy the nicotine withdrawals when I stop smoking for a while?

[raykilleen]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Actually, though I understand and you're right, this is what I was referring to when I talked about how we tend to make the matter complex and mysterious, with 8 limbs of this and asana pranayama tuning methodology of that. Just stop throwing boulders in the river and you won't get wet.

Relax, move, breath, stop imagining problems to solve everywhere. It works well if there's Kundalini or not.

Absolutely true, meanwhile some folks like to think they're doing something positive and that's fine too, if the side effects are pleasant why not.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

I've been dealing with it myself for about 7 years now. For me, it's not as matter of psychology or medication or meditation. Folks love to make the situation complex and mysterious, but basically there's a river of energy flowing through your mind/body that pushes the limits of both.

Once released, it cannot be stopped, only allowed to flow, and so one must learn the true meaning of surrender. The slightest emotional resistance will result in a painful blockage to the flow. The flow itself does not cause pain, only the blockage, as a boulder dropped into a swiftly moving brook will cause a disturbance.

Massaging the physical area in which the blockage is expressed is extremely useful. It will exhibit itself as a localized pain or a tension. Relaxing the area with the mind can have the same effect. Breathing deeply and physical activity is extremely important in keeping the energy flowing properly, though be careful not to stimulate the root, thereby releasing more energy. The physical activity is a kind of internal massage.

I've also found that the focus of consciousness has a direct relationship to the intensity of this flow, which is what stimulated it in the first place. There are times that I'm so deeply submerged in what we'll call the Divine, that my heart aches and a river of fire burns through my body, and I must focus on a 'lower level' of attention, if you will. For me, that was 'Jackass' videos on the internet, for a time. (Hehe) Google it.

In any event, you may have to let go of 'spiritual matters' for a time until your body/mind can adjust. That doesn't sound like it's a problem for you. For the same reason, I would be inclined to avoid Yoga or any meditation.

posters that have "attacked" you as not being human or whatever it was they weren't finding out about you should be happy to read this.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by raykilleen

I agree with the letting go of spiritual matters, this is what can happen if one is not prepared for the phenomenon of kundalini rising, it can be compared to running 50,000 volts through a 100 volt system. However thousands upon thousands of year’s trial and error with the 8 limbs of yoga were found to be helpful for this innate human happening i.e. a methodology of systematically tuning in the nervous system with asana, pranayama and relaxation techniques before progressing; therefore stop meditation, no more spiritual thinking but try some asana (physical exercise, working the blocks out), simple pranayama (control of the breath, no breaks or pauses, flowing smooth and deep) and shavasana (effortless relaxation leading to sleep).

You forgot about smearing grey mud all over your body.