What Is, Is

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Beingist

You warned Chris?! Good lord, the man's practically a saint!

Seriously, what in the world could he have said to justify a warning? I've said things ten times more reprimandable than he has, and no one's said a thing to me (well, except once, Brutha said something a while back, but he was perfectly justified).

I've accumulated a bunch actually. Hopefully your world hasn't shattered.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Beingist- great thread, you should be proud.

If you join another forum can you keep your Pavlina name so I recognize you?

Yes, I'll actually miss this thread I've created. Great stuff, in here, if you ask me (if embarassing for myself ).

And yes, I am Beingist everywhere. Even my email is beingist@hotmail.com (though that doesn't give anyone [except Criseyde] permission to spam me ).

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

Yeah. This was actually one of the few threads that was derailed hundreds of posts ago.

Actually, I think I, myself, tried to derail it after the 3rd or 4th post.

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

I've accumulated a bunch actually. Hopefully your world hasn't shattered.

LOL. No, my world is far from shattering. I just don't get it. I've just never witnessed you saying anything that warranted a ... warning(?). Others I can see, but you? Naw.

Guess that's why I've never been asked to be a mod around here.

[Criseyde]

No hard feelings here, either. fwiw, I believed you when you told me that you never meant to break any rules.

[Sponge]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

It's been great talking with you Sponge. You were open from the get go. Rather unusual if I do say so.

Well I'd reached my wits end I guess. I have nothing to be so depressed about yet time and time again getting sucked into this suffering. And I can see it with friends of mine too but I don't have the relationship to be able to say..it's just Maya! They'd probably never talk to me again, although I think more and more people are opening up to the ways of the mind I have to say. Anyway, as I say am not quite there yet as very often catch myself caught up in negative thoughts and it's not until afterwards that I realise I've been doing it..so I think I'll be chatting to you elsewhere :-)

[Sponge]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Someone else doesn't understand. YAY!

(Seriously, I feel so much better, now that I know I'm not the only one who struggles to understand what people are talking about around here).

I blame the Americans..always butchering our language- joking! Before I get any hate mail. (Yes am a Brit).

Ok I said over and out and yet here I am, so Sayonara! I have Christmas shopping to do. All the best.
OP officially derailed!

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Sponge

And I can see it with friends of mine too but I don't have the relationship to be able to say..it's just Maya! They'd probably never talk to me again, although I think more and more people are opening up to the ways of the mind I have to say.

No worries, Sponge. Love is love, and if your friends love you, they'll still talk with you. I had similar issues some years ago, and it all works out for the best. They won't heed your advice, necessarily, and as mine do, they'll probably think you're 'out to lunch', but if they do, you can just tell them that at least you're enjoying your lunch.

I'm also with you on the suffering part. We've all gotta go through it to grow spiritually. It helps just to know that there are fellow sufferers.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Sponge

I blame the Americans..always butchering our language

You should hear what Australians do to it.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by ButterflyWoman

You should hear what Australians do to it.

After circumnavigating Australia twice on a Spruance-class, U.S. Navy destroyer, I have heard what the Australians do to the English language.

I will say again, though, as I have in other threads, that I still love the way they pronounce their 'Os', as in, "theyas noiy ploice loike hoiym".

Love it.

[Sponge]

Originally Posted by ButterflyWoman

You should hear what Australians do to it.

Hehehe see my earlier post, that's where I live, best not to get me started.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Hehehe see my earlier post, that's where I live, best not to get me started.

I'm originally American (non-regional North American educated accent), but I've lived in Oz for more than a dozen years. You can imagine how I muck up the language.

[Beingist]

Wow. 1,000 posts. I never thought I'd see it in a thread I started.

I'm finally moving up in the world

[Sponge]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Wow. 1,000 posts. I never thought I'd see it in a thread I started.

I'm finally moving up in the world

Yay..it was me, what do I win??
I never even noticed those numbers previously. . What a wally wombat I am!

Am having a strange day today, am noticing lots of strange things.

Right- obviously am incapable of signing out of these forums...I will go down with this ship! (Dido).

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Yay..it was me, what do I win??
I never even noticed those numbers previously. . What a wally wombat I am!

Am having a strange day today, am noticing lots of strange things.

Right- obviously am incapable of signing out of these forums...I will go down with this ship! (Dido).

Wish I could give you a prize, Sponge, but it would only be blowed up with forum, unfortunately.

I don't usually pay attention to those numbers, either, except when they go from 3 digits to 4 digits, however odd that sounds. I just never figured I'd have a thread get so post-y, and in such a relatively short amount of time.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Beingist

I'm also with you on the suffering part. We've all gotta go through it to grow spiritually. It helps just to know that there are fellow sufferers.

Suffering is very subtlety valued in the mind. Most people don't actually want to give up their suffering despite often telling you the outright opposite.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Criseyde

No hard feelings here, either. fwiw, I believed you when you told me that you never meant to break any rules.

Spirituality and rules never seems to vibe very well. People try to stay in their comfort zones at all costs.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Well I'd reached my wits end I guess. I have nothing to be so depressed about yet time and time again getting sucked into this suffering. And I can see it with friends of mine too but I don't have the relationship to be able to say..it's just Maya! They'd probably never talk to me again, although I think more and more people are opening up to the ways of the mind I have to say. Anyway, as I say am not quite there yet as very often catch myself caught up in negative thoughts and it's not until afterwards that I realise I've been doing it..so I think I'll be chatting to you elsewhere :-)

Heh, no worries. That's just God exploring the nature of insanity. Nothing to see here.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

Suffering is very subtlety valued in the mind. Most people don't actually want to give up their suffering despite often telling you the outright opposite.

Makes sense. With me, the surrendering part seems to be happening rather gradually, in spite of myself. But, I know what you mean about not wanting to give up the suffering. Such happens on ever deeper, and ever more subtler levels.

I expect at some point I will go through a major shift, where suffering will take on a whole new ... dimension, but I'll let that happen as (or even if) it happens.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Makes sense. With me, the surrendering part seems to be happening rather gradually, in spite of myself. But, I know what you mean about not wanting to give up the suffering. Such happens on ever deeper, and ever more subtler levels.

I expect at some point I will go through a major shift, where suffering will take on a whole new ... dimension, but I'll let that happen as (or even if) it happens.

There's a line in the song 'Mad World' that to me encapsulates the bitter sweet process of surrender in which suffering still seems to be of importance while it is undeniable that surrender is the road to peace.

"I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad; The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had".

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

There's a line in the song 'Mad World' that to me encapsulates the bitter sweet process of surrender in which suffering still seems to be of importance while it is undeniable that surrender is the road to peace.

"I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad; The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had".

Oh. My. God.

That's been one of my all-time favorite songs since it first came out when I was in high school. And I only just now understood that lyric.

Holy crap. It's moments like these, when I can't help but wonder if the mind's tendency to repeat itself over and over again don't affect one's ultimately actuality (not one's Reality, but more their life-changing events).

Of course, that's just a thought, though, and as such, passes quickly enough.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Oh. My. God.

That's been one of my all-time favorite songs since it first came out when I was in high school. And I only just now understood that lyric.

Holy crap. It's moments like these, when I can't help but wonder if the mind's tendency to repeat itself over and over again don't affect one's ultimately actuality (not one's Reality, but more their life-changing events).

Of course, that's just a thought, though, and as such, passes quickly enough.

Life is strange.