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Old 12-21-2011, 04:35 AM   #961 (permalink)
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And I like your patience with people like me! At the end of the day, you either have an interest in this subject (non duality) or you don't. If you do then people like Arc and Chris and others on here are great to help you along. Saves you the cost of a retreat to India. Rather nice of them to help I think. If you don't have any interest or disagree just leave it, there are plenty of other discussion threads to get involved in.
Nice to see you again. How are things since that last discussion?
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Nice to see you again. How are things since that last discussion?
Well I can't pretend I'm realized as much as I'd like to be, things are pretty much the same. And I still see seperation. Life has become very busy with a few big IMs manifesting and I can't see where it all fits if at all really. I would say the biggest change is that things don't get to me as much. I find it hard to stay p-d off, angry, unhappy for long at all. In all my personal development years it's the furthest I've come and the best I've felt. So I'm kind of happy to stay here for now and keep reading this forum and listening to mooji in the hope that one day soon it will all just fall into place. I haven't posted much as I don't have too much else to ask at present.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:34 AM   #963 (permalink)
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Are you suggesting that this thread "stinks of Zen?"
Not at all
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And I like your patience with people like me! At the end of the day, you either have an interest in this subject (non duality) or you don't. If you do then people like Arc and Chris and others on here are great to help you along. Saves you the cost of a retreat to India. Rather nice of them to help I think. If you don't have any interest or disagree just leave it, there are plenty of other discussion threads to get involved in.
No patience at all required for folks with sincerity like yours. Nothing to push against. We can just talk. I can tell Chris enjoys you too.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:45 AM   #965 (permalink)
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Nice to see you again. How are things since that last discussion?
Ahh, see? Told ya so. Hehe.
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Well I can't pretend I'm realized as much as I'd like to be, things are pretty much the same. And I still see seperation. Life has become very busy with a few big IMs manifesting and I can't see where it all fits if at all really. I would say the biggest change is that things don't get to me as much. I find it hard to stay p-d off, angry, unhappy for long at all. In all my personal development years it's the furthest I've come and the best I've felt. So I'm kind of happy to stay here for now and keep reading this forum and listening to mooji in the hope that one day soon it will all just fall into place. I haven't posted much as I don't have too much else to ask at present.
More and more you'll be able to stand on the bank and not get caught up in the river of mind. Mind will be angry sometimes, but you remain on the bank watching it come and go. Let everything come and go, and as Mooji says, stay where you are.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:39 AM   #967 (permalink)
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More and more you'll be able to stand on the bank and not get caught up in the river of mind. Mind will be angry sometimes, but you remain on the bank watching it come and go. Let everything come and go, and as Mooji says, stay where you are.
That's what I think (although always sounds funny to write or say anything about what I think as it's irrelevant but anyway...).
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:42 AM   #968 (permalink)
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No patience at all required for folks with sincerity like yours. Nothing to push against. We can just talk. I can tell Chris enjoys you too.
Ha ha that sounds funny but I know what you mean thanks. I'll take any other help/insights you give so keep it coming!
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...and from my perspective, of course...
How can you have a perspective if you have transcended duality?

How refreshing to know that if someone questions you or your 'enlightenment' the problem is that they are closed-minded. The problem must be with them because of course you are beyond questioning, due to your enlightened understanding, eh?

Tell me Arc, are you ever wrong? Or perhaps more importantly, do you ever consider that you might be wrong? Or are you simply complacent in what you think you know?
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:04 AM   #970 (permalink)
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How can you have a perspective if you have transcended duality?

How refreshing to know that if someone questions you or your 'enlightenment' the problem is that they are closed-minded. The problem must be with them because of course you are beyond questioning, due to your enlightened understanding, eh?

Tell me Arc, are you ever wrong? Or perhaps more importantly, do you ever consider that you might be wrong? Or are you simply complacent in what you think you know?
I haven't made any claims of enlightenment or rightness or anything of the sort. I did, however, just make a claim to an opinion. Maybe you've mistaken me for another Arcanum? Happens all the time.
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I haven't made any claims of enlightenment or rightness or anything of the sort.
Maybe you should go back and reread your posts...
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More and more you'll be able to stand on the bank and not get caught up in the river of mind. Mind will be angry sometimes, but you remain on the bank watching it come and go. Let everything come and go, and as Mooji says, stay where you are.
wow! what understanding!
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How can you have a perspective if you have transcended duality?
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:22 PM   #974 (permalink)
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Well I can't pretend I'm realized as much as I'd like to be, things are pretty much the same. And I still see seperation. Life has become very busy with a few big IMs manifesting and I can't see where it all fits if at all really. I would say the biggest change is that things don't get to me as much. I find it hard to stay p-d off, angry, unhappy for long at all. In all my personal development years it's the furthest I've come and the best I've felt. So I'm kind of happy to stay here for now and keep reading this forum and listening to mooji in the hope that one day soon it will all just fall into place. I haven't posted much as I don't have too much else to ask at present.
Nice. It's a lot like a candle just burning down and hollowing itself out without all your ideas about how and when it should burn. All you usually need is just a glimpse of truth and the flame is lit. Just stay open and see where you really stand amongst all of it. Life is beautiful.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:52 AM   #975 (permalink)
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Figured I'd leave a closing post in my thread, here.

In this case, 'What Is', is Steve making the decision to shut down the forum, after banning banning Angela and company for propagating another Personal Development forum behind his back.

We can argue the finer points 'til we're blue in the face; we can say Steve's right, and Angela and company is wrong; we can say Angela is right, and Steve is wrong; we can say they're both right in their own way; we can say they're both wrong for doing what they're doing; we can say that no one is wrong for doing anything; we can say we're hurt; we can say we're happy; we can say or do anything to try to ease the pain, or to inflate our happines, but the long and short of it is that this forum is soon to be no more. Amen (so be it).

I would like to thank each and every being for participating in this thread, as well as every other thread I've started, and for providing their own understanding of 'What Is', of Consciousness, of Truth, of Being. It has been an honor, a privelege, indeed a joy to partake in these discussions with you, and I can truly say with a joyous heart that you all have helped me immensely in growing, and in understanding myself. Love to you all.

Namaste.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:55 AM   #976 (permalink)
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Personally, I would like to see Arcanum and ChrisGinsburg take this thread away.
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Personally, I would like to see Arcanum and ChrisGinsburg take this thread away.
How does one "take a thread away?"

Does this mean you'd like me to sign it over to them?
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Personally, I would like to see Arcanum and ChrisGinsburg take this thread away.
True. You have a free pass guys.
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Personally, I would like to see Arcanum and ChrisGinsburg take this thread away.
Sure thing. What does this mean?
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Sure thing. What does this mean?
All that stuff that I warned you about the other day? Consider it overturned.
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True. You have a free pass guys.
I'm not actually secretly looking to cuss anyone out or intentionally break the forum rules if that's what you're referring to.
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Personally, I would like to see Arcanum and ChrisGinsburg take this thread away.

Me too (if I've understood that meaning correctly that is).

Beingist- great thread, you should be proud.

I think I'm signing out of these forums now, much love to one and all. Don't take life too seriously.
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I'm not actually secretly looking to cuss anyone out or intentionally break the forum rules if that's what you're referring to.
No, no. That's not what I meant. I was just saying that you can discuss any subject without getting warning that it's derailing the thread.

If I ever sent you any warning, consider it null and void. no hard feelings.
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Sure thing. What does this mean?
Someone else doesn't understand. YAY!

(Seriously, I feel so much better, now that I know I'm not the only one who struggles to understand what people are talking about around here).
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No, no. That's not what I meant. I was just saying that you can discuss any subject without getting warning that it's derailing the thread.

If I ever sent you any warning, consider it null and void. no hard feelings.
I see. No hard feelings here. This was one of the few threads that was just all over the place from the get go. I think Beingist even said he didn't mind.
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All that stuff that I warned you about the other day? Consider it overturned.
You warned Chris?! Good lord, the man's practically a saint!

Seriously, what in the world could he have said to justify a warning? I've said things ten times more reprimandable than he has, and no one's said a thing to me (well, except once, Brutha said something a while back, but he was perfectly justified).
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All that stuff that I warned you about the other day? Consider it overturned.
Heh, I wish I could say it sounded more exciting. The idea of being able to freely derail threads just doesn't get my juices flowing. It was never my devious intention in the first place. Really more just forgetting the imaginary guidelines imposed on each discussion.
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Me too (if I've understood that meaning correctly that is).

Beingist- great thread, you should be proud.

I think I'm signing out of these forums now, much love to one and all. Don't take life too seriously.
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It's been great talking with you Sponge. You were open from the get go. Rather unusual if I do say so.
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Heh, I wish I could say it sounded more exciting. The idea of being able to freely derail threads just doesn't get my juices flowing. It was never my devious intention in the first place. Really more just forgetting the imaginary guidelines imposed on each discussion.
Besides, everyone has had my permission to derail this thread from the very OP, anyway!
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Yeah. This was actually one of the few threads that was derailed hundreds of posts ago.
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