Practicing Stoicism, you can ask any questions if you have any

[arpee]

Now, I know it is a very broad term, so let me tell you what I believe.

I'm indifferent to emotion (hence "stoic").

I believe that when you let go of pathos (passion/emotion/attachment) you allow apatheia (apathy, serenity, peace).

God is the universe, the peace flowing through all things, but not all things are peaceful because sometimes people fall into pathos and forget their peaceful nature, so they have on and off moments of apatheia instead of a life full of it.

Now, ask me anything you wish. You can even ask me how I would approach a problem if you have any.

[taylor]

You equated emotion with attachment: "emotion/attachment"

Do you feel they are the same thing?

[arpee]

Originally Posted by taylor

You equated emotion with attachment: "emotion/attachment"

Do you feel they are the same thing?

passion - A strong feeling or emotion/An object of warm affection or devotion

attachment - A feeling of affection for a person or an institution


But more importantly:

serenity/peace - A disposition free from stress or emotion

[Keiju]

Originally Posted by arpee

Now, I know it is a very broad term, so let me tell you what I believe.

I'm indifferent to emotion (hence "stoic").

I believe that when you let go of pathos (passion/emotion/attachment) you allow apatheia (apathy, serenity, peace).

God is the universe, the peace flowing through all things, but not all things are peaceful because sometimes people fall into pathos and forget their peaceful nature, so they have on and off moments of apatheia instead of a life full of it.

Now, ask me anything you wish. You can even ask me how I would approach a problem if you have any.

As I understand it, from your writing.


pathos is attachment to false emotion
apatheia is attachment to real emotion


emotion = electronic motion the electricity that runs through your body, its what gives us any hint as to how we should respond to our environment, our "feelings"

attachment = identification with


How do you respond to that?

[arpee]

Originally Posted by Keiju

As I understand it, from your writing.


pathos is attachment to false emotion
apatheia is attachment to real emotion


emotion = electronic motion the electricity that runs through your body, its what gives us any hint as to how we should respond to our environment, our "feelings"

attachment = identification with


How do you respond to that?

The Stoic Terms as listed on wikipedia:

πάθος (pathos): passion or emotion

ἀπάθεια (apatheia): serenity, peace of mind, such as that achieved by the Stoic sage.

The purpose is to let go of the pathos in order to achieve apatheia.

My interpretation, the way I practice Stoicism is that peace is not an emotion but a stillness and a calmness. Emotions whether Happiness, Anger, Sadness, Worry, Fear, are all the temptations.

[Lukas]

As you put it you reciprocally contradict emotions and peace. So you categorically leave out the possibility of having emotions and being nevertheless in inner peace with it.

Do yo see mastery over emotions from the deeper dimension within as an equivalent alternative for your way of just putting emotions away as a hindrance to peace?

Is love for you an emotion?

[arpee]

Originally Posted by Lukas

Is love for you an emotion?

Love, by its very definition, is an emotion: A strong positive emotion of regard and affection.

Originally Posted by Lukas

Do yo see mastery over emotions from the deeper dimension within as an equivalent alternative for your way of just putting emotions away as a hindrance to peace?

If "mastery over emotions" means, detaching from emotions both good and bad to stay in a sense of stillness, serenity, peace, then yes.

[Lukas]

Ok, then love is for you a tabu, that one is clarified. How do you imagine having sex, you want to have sex or a partner at all?

What I was referring to was if you can imagine that peace and emotions don't have to contradict each other. Thanks for making it clear.

[arpee]

Originally Posted by Lukas

Ok, then love is for you a tabu, that one is clarified. How do you imagine having sex, you want to have sex or a partner at all?

What I was referring to was if you can imagine that peace and emotions don't have to contradict each other. Thanks for making it clear.

Concerning desire, if the desire is possible to fulfill then I just do it, if I fail, I don't get emotional, if I success I don't get emotion...

It is more like living on intentions/inspiration, then living on "desires" feeling of wanting to do things. Things just happen naturally without the emotional attachment.

If sex is offered and I want it, why not, but don't get too excited remain in peace. If I want it but it is not offered, oh well, no use getting all emotional remain in peace.

[taylor]

I'm not sure what you're practicing is stoicism exactly. If by "detaching" you mean some form of repression or trying to change emotions, it might even have the potential for negative side effects. However, I can't tell if you're living a Bhagavad-Gita like non-attachment or a repressive detachment. Words about subtle interior qualities are never adequate are they?

I'm into books and maybe you're not but here's two books specifically on stoicism I enjoyed.

Amazon.com: A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy (9780195374612): William B. Irvine: Books

Amazon.com: Letters from a Stoic (Penguin Classics) (9780140442106): Lucius Annaeus Seneca, Robin Campbell: Books

[arpee]

My interpretation of Stoicism is as follow in the original post.