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11-25-2011, 10:07 PM
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Ive always had faith in something other than myself. Rarely, if ever, did i know what exactly it was i had faith in, but it drove me nonetheless. Giving up faith is basically giving up on looking forward to something. Love alone is fleeting. I'm reaching the conclusion that if you want love, love what's eternal. Through that doorway of thought, it could boil down to what is(are) eternal? Is it God? Is it the human spirit? Can the two exist separately? If they can, tell me, what happens to that spirit? Does it go to it's own, personal heaven? Does it cease? Does it wander the cosmos? Are there other possibilities? |
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11-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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if you put your feelings or faith into a physical object you are doomed to fail / fall into depression and other similar states because nothing ever stays the same. any object will perish or change over time. if you put your feelings or faith into another creature or ideology then again you are doomed to fail because like physical objects spiritual objects are also not there to exist forever. so if you want to feel love then just feel it - do not connect it or bind it to another physical or spiritual object. if you want to be happy - just be happy for no reason - just be happy about everything and nothing - be in a happy state or be in a love state - do not bind |
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To love or be loved, you need a lover and a beloved. This sets up a dualistic relationship which must bring with it conditions. Of course it's these conditions that you want to avoid by loving that which is eternal, and presumably unchanging and unconditional according to tradition. However, this doesn't address the question of your conditions. Under what conditions do you feel loving toward the eternal? Does great suffering challenge that faith, which is fundamentally a belief in the unseen borne of desire? The only possibility of genuine Love is in the absence of this dualistic relationship, and so if there is not lover and beloved, then we are saying one must have the experience of being this Love itself, in expression. The implication is that Love is impersonal, and it's this impersonal aspect that makes it possible for Love to be unconditional. | |
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