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Old 11-22-2011, 05:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Can you succeed at wanting to do everything possible? (Almost everything anyways....)"

---- I know that we are all God becoming everything, anyways...but I am wondering this:

--Here's an example: Let's say there's this guy named Bob, and Bob's desire that he wants to manifest is to try every video game that exists on Earth.


-Will he be able to fufill this desire eventually? (Not counting this lifetime)

-Do you think he would have the chance to do so elsewhere? (ex. in the ether, (in between realm), other lifetimes etc.?


-Now to some people, this desire would seem silly and pointless. But, if he really WANTS it, wouldn't it be wise for him to do so? After all, according to Abraham, we are source energy wanting to experience the manifestation of our desires. etc...


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Chances are, you might get bored of your desires eventually or some of your goals, and decide to ignore them and instead, do something else.
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Seriously tho, what are people's thoughts on this?
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But my honest opinion is that Abraham is a "false prophet," coating greed and lusts with a thin veneer of spirituality. It's what people want to hear though for obvious reasons.

The satisfaction of whims like trying all the video games is less than worthless. If it even were possible, which it isn't unless you break the laws of physics since they are made faster than you can finish them, why would you even care unless you had an "attachment" or "craving" etc. some neediness in your psyche that needs addressing.
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Someone had their Wheaties today. You waited 1 minute between your own replies to yourself.
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Sort of.

It'd be cool to try many games but I don't care that much if I don't.
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The satisfaction of whims like trying all the video games is less than worthless. If it even were possible, which it isn't unless you break the laws of physics since they are made faster than you can finish them, why would you even care unless you had an "attachment" or "craving" etc. some neediness in your psyche that needs addressing.
Maybe so, but each person's opinion is going to be different. Some people want sex and human companionship. To other people those things would be worthless. etc.

Who's to say what's worthy of us to strive for? If anything fun is a waste of time, why not just get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process? Where does the line get drawn?
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If Bob wants to play all the video games ever written for the many different systems he will be busy for a long time . Fairchild Channel F - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ColecoVision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Atari 2600 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia only a few . After playing all thoes games lets say Bob want ever adult video ever made , Bob is going to be a busy guy . desert rat
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Maybe so, but each person's opinion is going to be different. Some people want sex and human companionship. To other people those things would be worthless. etc.

Who's to say what's worthy of us to strive for? If anything fun is a waste of time, why not just get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process? Where does the line get drawn?
It's drawn by your weakness and limitations. If you could get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process, I say go for it. What's the reason you haven't anyway? The ego is holding you back with various addictions that it calls fun. In reality, these are control strategies. Watch your mind from time to time. It's a rather clever trickster.

For example I was supposed to start meditating 45 minutes ago but because I couldn't get in position on time, my ego rationalized "okay you'll start at 9." because it's an even number, rather than just starting immediately. Anything to delay it will try. I only just realized what happened as I wrote this.
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Why would you want to do everything possible.

You say "we are all God becoming everything." How can God become everything/ Is not god already everything?
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Isn't there anyone out there who has ever had CONSIDERED wanting to try as many things as possible?(based upon what you do and do not like, of course...)

-Now I'm not entirely sure if I want to do something like this, but I am posing the question for someone who would want to, because I'm sure there's SOMEONE out there who would have think these type of thoughts...


(On a side note: maybe if I viewed this "wanna do everything possible" thought from a higher level perspective, maybe that type of idea would be found out to be pointless.)
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It's drawn by your weakness and limitations. If you could get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process, I say go for it. What's the reason you haven't anyway? The ego is holding you back with various addictions that it calls fun. In reality, these are control strategies. Watch your mind from time to time. It's a rather clever trickster.

For example I was supposed to start meditating 45 minutes ago but because I couldn't get in position on time, my ego rationalized "okay you'll start at 9." because it's an even number, rather than just starting immediately. Anything to delay it will try. I only just realized what happened as I wrote this.
You say "If you could get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process, I say go for it." That makes sense, but what's the point of us even being ALIVE if we don't enjoy the journey/the process?? Once you get enlightened, aren't you then just going to ask yourself: "Oh that's great, what's next?"

I think ego can hold us back in life, but I think you have to build your ego up first before you can transcend it. (Developing confidence, strength, willpower etc.)
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I've tried pushing the limits with externals and it never satisfies me. "It fills up the hole but it grows somewhere else instead." as the beautiful lyric goes.

I actually think if you push the limits like playing all the video games in the world or playing constantly, you'll come to appreciate the purpose of enlightenment more. The ego tries to keep us in the middle ground territory so we don't see the edges where its mechanisms start breaking down.

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You say "If you could get enlightenment now and not enjoy the process, I say go for it." That makes sense, but what's the point of us even being ALIVE if we don't enjoy the journey/the process?? Once you get enlightened, aren't you then just going to ask yourself: "Oh that's great, what's next?"
It's interesting because of course it must be better to enjoy yourself, and yet that's exactly how the ego keeps things going. You compromise and give up eternal joy for temporary comfort. If you were to give up the comfort, you would experience temporary heightened suffering that your addiction is covering up. That's why I think waking up can be painful. The first step I think is seeing your suffering clearly without trying to block it out with some distraction.

Once your ego is over, so is the need for "What's next?" That attitude can only arise from dissatisfaction and only the ego can be dissatisfied as it can never be complete or whole.

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Maybe so. That's been my experience. I don't know if I'd call it building up the ego, because it's not like you get more egoic, maybe "refining the ego" would sound better to me.
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I think it is possible, but you would need to get to a level where you can ignore the laws of physics.
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I've tried pushing the limits with externals and it never satisfies me. "It fills up the hole but it grows somewhere else instead." as the beautiful lyric goes.

I actually think if you push the limits like playing all the video games in the world or playing constantly, you'll come to appreciate the purpose of enlightenment more. The ego tries to keep us in the middle ground territory so we don't see the edges where its mechanisms start breaking down.


It's interesting because of course it must be better to enjoy yourself, and yet that's exactly how the ego keeps things going. You compromise and give up eternal joy for temporary comfort. If you were to give up the comfort, you would experience temporary heightened suffering that your addiction is covering up. That's why I think waking up can be painful. The first step I think is seeing your suffering clearly without trying to block it out with some distraction.

Once your ego is over, so is the need for "What's next?" That attitude can only arise from dissatisfaction and only the ego can be dissatisfied as it can never be complete or whole.


Maybe so. That's been my experience. I don't know if I'd call it building up the ego, because it's not like you get more egoic, maybe "refining the ego" would sound better to me.
Yeah, a lot of that does makes sense, especially the 'refining the ego' part.
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