Non-egoic reasons to become a millionaire

[quiethumir]

I've been reading about LoA and buddhism(who don't believe in LoA). When I read about people talking about LoA, I want to become a millionaire, but when I read about buddhism, it doesn't matter if i become a millionaire along the way of increasing my spiritual growth.

What are the reasons to becoming a millionaire from a non-dualistic/buddhist perspective.

[zeitgeist]

Use the LoA to define who you are. And if a long the way you realize that you are egoistic, that you want to choose status symbols to prove that you are a cut everyone else, then you are - in my opinion- closer to the truth than a spiritual path traveler who cannot admit that he is egoistic.

All the best,

Zeitgeist

[Arz Sra]

Originally Posted by quiethumir

I've been reading about LoA and buddhism(who don't believe in LoA). When I read about people talking about LoA, I want to become a millionaire, but when I read about buddhism, it doesn't matter if i become a millionaire along the way of increasing my spiritual growth.

When you read about LOA, you want to be a millionaire. is it because suddenly it opens you up to the possibility that you too can be a millionaire?

are the steps you want to take dependent on being backed up by some philosophy?

The mind is so goal-oriented that it does not even start to desire anything unless it seems , in one way or the other, within reach.. Reading about LOA gives that reach to you or at least the illusion of it.. LOA provides you to start thinking about your wildest and biggest aspirations...

It does not really have to do as much with what philosophy you read ( Loa or Buddhism) but with You. every philosophy opens the box of your desires.. we go for philosophies because each has to offer one thing or the other.. sometimes it gets difficult to decide what you really want - being millionaire or being 'nothing'.. Be brave enough to acknowledge what you really want and then go for it.. OR be brave enough to just witness the desire and feel the whole pain of not pursuing it..

What are the reasons to becoming a millionaire from a non-dualistic/buddhist perspective.

Non-dualistic perspective is an oxymoron. like saying - deafening silence.. its not a perspective but absence of perspectives..

As for Buddhism, being a philosophy.. the reasons to be a millionaire have to do with te point which Buddhism strives to reach.. what the point is? I have no idea.. there must be something 'ideal' it envisions.. if being millionaire can fulfill that vision, then fulfillment could be the reason behind being millionaire from Buddhism perspective..

[taylor]

There is no real point to becoming a millionaire from a Buddhist/non-dualistic perspective.

At best you could get a million dollars by helping others, and then use that money to help others even more. That would then be positive karma in Buddhism which is helpful to you, but not the ultimate goal of non-duality or enlightenment. The way people mean becoming a millionaire in LOA circles is typically for your own enjoyment, and therefore pointless according to Buddhism.

Much of LOA ideology comes from lower astral energies which isn't exactly the right direction towards enlightenment, so don't be surprised if they don't always agree.

[FlabRoshi]

What Taylor says is true of at least one buddhist teacher I know of.

He teaches that greed is greed whether it's on behalf of self or others.

I find it difficult to wrap my head around that, and don't really worry about it. I am quite happy to earn myself a decent living in a good profession (accountancy).

Originally Posted by Arz Sra

Non-dualistic perspective is an oxymoron. like saying - deafening silence.. its not a perspective but absence of perspectives.

The heart sutra (one of the core texts of buddhism) says "form is emptiness, and emptiness is form".

The first part of that is easier to grasp than the second and it relates to what you just said.

Emptiness (the absence of perspectives) is form i.e. it is a unique kind of perspective.

Getting "stuck in emptiness" as it's called is quite high level stuff though. That's when you think you've attained "it" but you haven't really (because there's nothing to attain).

[RonSouther]

Originally Posted by quiethumir

I've been reading about LoA and buddhism(who don't believe in LoA). When I read about people talking about LoA, I want to become a millionaire, but when I read about buddhism, it doesn't matter if i become a millionaire along the way of increasing my spiritual growth.

What are the reasons to becoming a millionaire from a non-dualistic/buddhist perspective.

Find something that you love to do and then find a way to make money at it....that truly being rich...

[alphamind]

I wonder how many people would choose either the Buddha consciousness or the million.

[JagJ]

Hi Arz,
I loved your response. The other idea about wanting to be a millionaire and a buddhist is because we live in a world that requires material things and the more money you have the more comfort and security you tend to have. This is an age old problem. So, there is the conflict between being human and needing things for basic survival and for a much more comfortable life. Being a millionaire can also enable you to pursue more spiritual path from the standpoint of meditation. Being poor and striving puts you on a path that requires more faith in miracles and such.

No matter what your economic circumstance, it can co-exist with the quest for spirtuauty. Did the Buddha reconcile his lack of material possession with comfort in knowing that he was spirtualy enlightened? Or, did the spiritual enlightenment make him realize that he did not require material possions? Is there a "catch-22" in there somewhere? There are many Buddhist millionaires, I'm sure. So you will have to decide how you can fulfill the Buddhist principals while pursuing your economic goals. Sure, there are not many "Bodisattvas" wearing Brooks Brothers suits, but they are out there. I am sure you will be able to embrace the Buddhist pholosophy of life, and tithe what you will while pursuing material success. Perhaps you can combine the 2 with the way that you pursure your financial goals? That is, if via real estate, perhaps create affordable housing for people, etc.

Good luck!

JagJ

[quiethumir]

Thanks guys for the insightful replies.

I'll just do what I'm passionate about and not worry about becoming a millionaire.

[RonSouther]

Originally Posted by quiethumir

Thanks guys for the insightful replies.

I'll just do what I'm passionate about and not worry about becoming a millionaire.

Short of winning the lottery, it isn't likely that you can become a millionaire without being passionate about what your'e doing. So it comes back to finding what you love to do.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by alphamind

I wonder how many people would choose either the Buddha consciousness or the million.

Why an "either", do you seriously think one with such and avanced consiousness would find it difficult to do something as simple as getting 1 million of green papers?

It is just that it isnt interested.

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by Luciddd

Why an "either", do you seriously think one with such and avanced consiousness would find it difficult to do something as simple as getting 1 million of green papers?

It is just that it isnt interested.

That's not how it was meant to be taken. It's more of a curiosity whether people nowadays would much rather have the peace of God within them abiding by their true nature or possessing one million dollars. But I think the answer is obvious.

I see your point though.

[ChristsLight]

Why do you want to become a millionaire?

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by ChristsLight

Why do you want to become a millionaire?

Why do you judge?

[ChristsLight]

Originally Posted by alphamind

Why do you judge?

How did you see judgment in my question?

[Sekret Weapon]

My happiness is equally as important to me as Your happiness is to you. There are so many people on this planet who are suffering under conditions of poverty. Poverty creates a collective climate of suffering that can be eased by an infusion of money into a system that lacks money. Such action creates happiness for those who are locked in such poverty.


I am on my way to becoming a millionaire.

The inspiration that drives me is to make as much money as humanly possible in order to re-direct those funds into a children's hospital in a favela. Through my life I will add and add to this fund until I am too old to continue any longer. I am only 40 as of now.

I do have personal financial desires, but they are minute. My financial desires are almost exclusively aimed for the benefit of other people, and i will continue to act everyday to see that this intention is met.

[RonSouther]

Originally Posted by ChristsLight

How did you see judgment in my question?

I don't see any judgment.

[Carri C]

don't forget the buddha lived in a warmer climate that requires less shelter and his food was donated. much harder for most of us living a non-monastic life. i want to be a multi-millionaire so i can give away lots, set up a small retreat for friends and as-yet-unmet-friends, and meditate lots

[ChristsLight]

Originally Posted by Carri C

i want to be a multi-millionaire so i can give away lots, set up a small retreat for friends and as-yet-unmet-friends, and meditate lots

And what would these things do for you?