What are your thoughts on evil forces?

[zabjoa]

I have recently read the law of one, though not all of it, so I was thinking that dark forces would be the ones that believe in separation, nothing wrong with it, but my belief tells me that everything came from one, much like believing in god, Ill try to filter out as much nonsense as possible so for the ones that believe that we are just biological beings living for a short while might stop reading now... okay, then there is us.
so every time i die i go to heaven, for a long time I have had this strange feeling in me that says that we are all one, I don't know if you believe this or not, and this is important, it seems to me that the universe moves in cycles, much like repeating itself and i got this strange feeling, like deja vu, many times each day, and i was trying to make sense of it, and ones i read the law of one and they stated that everything moves in cycles i kept getting memories of what will happen, it might be my overactive mind, but reeling it back a bit, are we, as Bill Hicks so eloquently says "one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively?" Oh and one more thing, I have memories of the life of the people around me.

[BillyTheAdult]

You seem to have conflicting beliefs systems. You talk about all being one, but then are separating people/forces into two groups. Good vs. evil, light vs. dark. These are all just meaningless labels, they do not exist outside of the mind. Gather me up a forest and then tell me which trees are good and which are evil.

[wstein]

For most people, the ‘dark’ forces are those that believe differently than they do.

I believe that ALL is one AND that there is separation. They are beliefs in opposition and seemingly incompatible, however that does not suggest either or which one is ‘dark’. The ‘dark’ label is not relevant to your actual questions.

There are others that believe as you do. The eastern philosophies call those cycles ‘The Wheel’, 2012 thing is from the Mayans where a major cycle is ending an another ‘age’ is beginning. This is discussed somewhat in the thread Off-Creation Experiences

[alphamind]

I think that to the dark forces we are the bad guys. I also think God is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for the duality and polarity existing in the first place. Enough said.

[Andras]

Every force in nature can be used for good OR used for nefarious purpose. It is naive and ignorant to deny the existence of those who use these forces to benefit only themselves and oppress others. Control over others is a sign of misuse of power. Ego, selfishness, greed, cunning are all signs of the dark-forces. However their power is coming from the same source as the power of Light. This is important to understand.

"There are two forces, each having seven streams, and they again seven times seven, and so on downward unto an infinity of numbers.
They are right and left, hand positive and negative, light and darkness, good and evil. Each has many names and many attributes, and in the ultimate the two are one; though not yet, nor for many eons, is their oneness manifested, and until then they are opposites.
Their oneness is an occult secret, difficult to understand, and it is madness for the choosers of the left hand force to meditate their treacheries when the star of the right hand force is in the ascendent."
FRAGMENT FROM THE DIARY OF OLYMPUS

[GregD]

Planet Earth does not care if Hitler killed millions or someone helped a friend. Its all the same molecules vibrating around doing whatever.

So from a narrow immature perspective of a human - we are great, we are special, etc, bla bla, there are good humans, there are bad humans, bla bla.

From a higher level of development it is meaningless to discuss that.

[Andras]

Who gives a rat's ass if "planet earth" cares or not? Tell this to the 6 million Jews, the 20 million Russians who perished in WWII! Claiming this "oneness" and denying polarity is a mental disorder perpetrated by new age charlatans!

Originally Posted by GregD

Planet Earth does not care if Hitler killed millions or someone helped a friend. Its all the same molecules vibrating around doing whatever.

So from a narrow immature perspective of a human - we are great, we are special, etc, bla bla, there are good humans, there are bad humans, bla bla.

From a higher level of development it is meaningless to discuss that.

[Keiju]

Originally Posted by Andras

Who gives a rat's ass if "planet earth" cares or not? Tell this to the 6 million Jews, the 20 million Russians who perished in WWII! Claiming this "oneness" and denying polarity is a mental disorder perpetrated by new age charlatans!

Aside from the fact that mosquito's are in fact the world's most "evil" creature, topping the list for most killed.


To put things in perspective, imagine a football team, 2 opposing sides, they are both "one" as far as each team is concerned.


The truth is we all share the same space, we are inside the exact same "box of reality", the one reality. This is what is or at least, should be referred to as the "oneness principle". That we all exist on the same plane, and like the football game should cooperate as a team, the one team, "children of God" team if you like. The opposing team are obstacles that stop us from reaching our goals, not people, but entropy, if you like.


So its team "children of God" VS team "entropy"


Now, evil is like the dark. It doesnt actually exist. Like the dark, it is merely an object unilluminated, which disappears when light or knowledge reveals its identity.

[GregD]

Originally Posted by Andras

Who gives a rat's ass if "planet earth" cares or not? Tell this to the 6 million Jews, the 20 million Russians who perished in WWII! Claiming this "oneness" and denying polarity is a mental disorder perpetrated by new age charlatans!

Andras here we discuss things on a higher level than the level you are on. If you want to continue your way of hating those who did the crimes and making revenge by killing them and their families and continuing wars and murders of each other for thousands of years - please go ahead, but then don't come to this forum and dirty it with your hatred.

In many books it is written quite clearly that labeling people is the first step to murder. It is a fact that people who think they are the same they NEVER kill each other. In all the conflicts the root cause is the creation of the differences between peoples and then the next step is creating the idea that these "other" people are somehow worse than "your" people and that leads to murder.

[Andras]

I am not "hating" anything... wake up and smell the coffee

You are taking Oneness out of context and trying to place it into our daily existence where it does not belong.
Face the fact that where we are - down on earth, 21st century, there is no oneness (except in drug induced coma). There is polarity, day and night, etc.
I KNOW that on a very abstract level there is oneness and all encompassing love but that is not worth talking about in the context of dark forces and bad people. Denying the existence of bad things will not make them go away. It won't make you an enlightened person...After the WWII (during the cold war) the dark forces almost blew up mother earth and they have not given up on trying again and again.

Originally Posted by GregD

Andras here we discuss things on a higher level than the level you are on. If you want to continue your way of hating those who did the crimes and making revenge by killing them and their families and continuing wars and murders of each other for thousands of years - please go ahead, but then don't come to this forum and dirty it with your hatred.

In many books it is written quite clearly that labeling people is the first step to murder. It is a fact that people who think they are the same they NEVER kill each other. In all the conflicts the root cause is the creation of the differences between peoples and then the next step is creating the idea that these "other" people are somehow worse than "your" people and that leads to murder.

[zabjoa]

I think that we came from the same consciousness, this was a strange concept for me to grasp, but Bill Hicks put it brilliantly saying and I quote "we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectivly"
I believe the ultimate answer we might be striving for is that in fact everything is love, sound strange yet?
Well, from personal experience I believe I live in heaven, the more obstacles(in my mind) I removed the faster my prefered reality showed up, these days intention manifestation is common, and I do believe we are all blessed, and this might sound completely thought provoking, but I believe that all people that has been killed actually asked for it on some level, I refuse to believe that I am the only human that is incredibly blessed and by the way, dying is nothing bad!
As for where I get my ideas I have experienced that without thoughts in my mind and a clear consciousness that the beings I see has that same consciousness I have, how this is possible I dont know, but I believe that everything is energy and so is the earth as such we are all on the very gross level, the consciousness i think is spirit or god, thats the thing that can change reality and also where law of attraction stems from in the first place, oh and for the post about earth not caring, I would ask, how do you know? I have heard of many people that has intimate experiences with the earth, I mean talk have a dialog with each other, as a side point I might mention that the earth is conscious, its not just a rock anymore then you are just flesh and bones, and I think and this might be the reason why I have such a pleasant life that we are all loved, when you come to grips with that simple statement your life might change, I know mine did.