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Old 11-17-2011, 11:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Consider your external reality, including circumstances, people, everything, to be a perfect reflection of your consciousness, down to the deepest levels of your subconscious. The totality of your state of being, or consciousness, could be likened to a bubble. It is self-generating, and impenetrable by outside forces. Never feel like a victim, because there is nothing that can occur without your having created it, or allowed it to happen.

There is a major difference between your conscious identity and your subconscious self/total consciousness/external reality, though(Note that I am using the three terms fairly interchangeably). Your conscious identity has many filters. Thoughts and ideas that you have that you don't want, or don't think you should have, you repress. You try to pretend they don't exist, or call them bad, or tell yourself that you don't really think that. Your subconscious, that which manifests as your external reality, has no such filters. You could say it is ruthless, although it is simply unfiltered, with no bias towards positivity or negativity, or anything for that matter. The other thing about subconscious/external reality is that it does not cater to your notions of self. It is completely impersonal.It is all your consciousness interacting with itself.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I more or less believe it.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Disagree.

Our consciousness allows for the quality of awareness, which allows us to percieve what is true.


In the beginning, pain and pleasure are indicators of truth. If it hurts we dont do that, if it feels good we do more of that. We were not allowed to be aware in the initial stages because it was too painful, whilst the most infantile stages of learning were taking place.


Once enough unconscious programming has taken place, together with our inherited knowledge within DNA and non-local information, it mixes together to allow becoming aware, level 1, and then aware of our own awareness, level 2, then aware that we are aware of our own awareness, the third level and so on.


consiousness is not interacting with itself, because it is merely a quality of the soul that allows us to be aware.


the sub-conscious consist's of your bodily knowledge, it breaths for you, beats your heart, constructed the bio-technology that is your body. However it is not all knowing, given its inablity to deal with many problems, which requires our awareness to function.
We feed the body information, whilst the body also feeds us information in a looping feedback that allows us to grow and develope.


To summarise you have:

body <---> awareness (derived from consciousness, which is derived from the soul)

Body+awareness <---> External environment (which includes God, me, everyone else and whatever you can think of)

<--> represents a looping feedback.
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Old 11-19-2011, 03:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Consider your external reality, including circumstances, people, everything, to be a perfect reflection of your consciousness, down to the deepest levels of your subconscious. The totality of your state of being, or consciousness, could be likened to a bubble. It is self-generating, and impenetrable by outside forces. Never feel like a victim, because there is nothing that can occur without your having created it, or allowed it to happen.

There is a major difference between your conscious identity and your subconscious self/total consciousness/external reality, though(Note that I am using the three terms fairly interchangeably). Your conscious identity has many filters. Thoughts and ideas that you have that you don't want, or don't think you should have, you repress. You try to pretend they don't exist, or call them bad, or tell yourself that you don't really think that. Your subconscious, that which manifests as your external reality, has no such filters. You could say it is ruthless, although it is simply unfiltered, with no bias towards positivity or negativity, or anything for that matter. The other thing about subconscious/external reality is that it does not cater to your notions of self. It is completely impersonal.It is all your consciousness interacting with itself.
agreed.
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Consider your external reality, including circumstances, people, everything, to be a perfect reflection of your consciousness, down to the deepest levels of your subconscious. The totality of your state of being, or consciousness, could be likened to a bubble. It is self-generating, and impenetrable by outside forces. Never feel like a victim, because there is nothing that can occur without your having created it, or allowed it to happen.

There is a major difference between your conscious identity and your subconscious self/total consciousness/external reality, though(Note that I am using the three terms fairly interchangeably). Your conscious identity has many filters. Thoughts and ideas that you have that you don't want, or don't think you should have, you repress. You try to pretend they don't exist, or call them bad, or tell yourself that you don't really think that. Your subconscious, that which manifests as your external reality, has no such filters. You could say it is ruthless, although it is simply unfiltered, with no bias towards positivity or negativity, or anything for that matter. The other thing about subconscious/external reality is that it does not cater to your notions of self. It is completely impersonal.It is all your consciousness interacting with itself.
I agree totaly.
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Consider your external reality, including circumstances, people, everything, to be a perfect reflection of your consciousness, down to the deepest levels of your subconscious. The totality of your state of being, or consciousness, could be likened to a bubble. It is self-generating, and impenetrable by outside forces. Never feel like a victim, because there is nothing that can occur without your having created it, or allowed it to happen.
This is my direct experience. And when I treat my reality as if it's just an extension of my subconscious, things actually make more sense than if I assume some sort of "external" or "objective" reality.

I have no idea how I failed to see this thread when it was first posted, but seeing it now is an amusing synchronicity. I love it when that happens.
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Hi journey

I totally agree with you

What do you think about painful experiences - obviously you create them, but are these more a reflection of say the ego expressing self hatred, protecting you etc or are these lessons to help become more conscious?
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Hi journey

I totally agree with you

What do you think about painful experiences - obviously you create them, but are these more a reflection of say the ego expressing self hatred, protecting you etc or are these lessons to help become more conscious?
Everything that has happened, painful as it may have been at times, has made you to the unique and special person you are right now. While in the past your journey has been subconscious more often than not, and frequently ego driven, now, at this magic moment in time, you have the ability to become the one you were born to be. It is your choice to make the journey conscious from here on and the memories of your old persona are useful to creating your notion of heaven on earth. Everything is perfect as is would be my conjecture.
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In my experience,

if you believe the external reality is a reflection of your sub-conscious, in effect saying that you are God, that reality changes completely inline with you,

you are in for a big surprise,


though I have no quibble with testing hypothesis' by ingraining such models into your "beliefs/self programming/mode of operation/BIOS", this is one of those you just have to find out to get anywhere I suppose


this particular model is a little annoying to overcome though, and the eventual ramifications of percieved "insanity" people will see of you, given you think they are merely a projection of your sub-conscious


interesting thing about this reality, the "better/more accurate" your programming the higher the pleasure factor. We test/draft hypothesis' in our minds but the proof is in the actual testing by applying the hypothesis to our lives and adjusting according to the resulting pain and pleasure.

Happy testing Though most people fear failure (its painful), so, sure this hypothesis may sound good, but one who actually applies his theoretical knowledge is rare indeed. One who test's his knowledge against reality by allowing his theories to change his behaviour, and then adjusts his theories and behaviour according to the results obtained, and continue despite failures (pain) is even rarer indeed, it is the one who see's the resulting pleasure in the long run that walks this "hard" path
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What do you think about painful experiences - obviously you create them, but are these more a reflection of say the ego expressing self hatred, protecting you etc or are these lessons to help become more conscious?
Sometimes it's self hatred. Sometimes it's just that you expect things to suck, to hurt, to be difficult, etc. I found that when my expectations changed, my reality changed to match. When I expected to be victimised, I was. When I expected that to be a thing of the past, it stopped. When I expected people to act in certain ways, they did, and when I changed my expectation to something else, they acted differently.

Some of these expectations are formed when we're very young, it would seem. I've found roots of some beliefs/expectations that went back to when I was pre-verbal.
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I agree with this, I believe this world is made of off mind and that we are consciousness, interesting enough considering that many say god created this world then this would be gods thoughts and we are the consciousnesses exploring this, in my mind this makes sense, and also with me when I find more congruent belief systems I become luckiler, take today for an example,got driven where I needed to go, got waffles and many other stuff I needed, thing is that the more congruent my thoughts become with real truth the easier life becomes, I say this is common sense, and maybe also the explanation of how we are all one.
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What are some of the best ways you all have found to work with and influence the subconscious?

Obviously hypnosis, but I am more interested in processes one can use on the self, without having to go to another person.

Affirmations are slow going. Things like BSFF and PsychK are good.

Have you found any methods that worked well for you?
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What are some of the best ways you all have found to work with and influence the subconscious?

Have you found any methods that worked well for you?
For me, first, you should be able to identify your old pattern, i.e., things happening again and again. Experience it and observe yourself and find out
what is your belief here. Suddenly, you probably will have this a-ha moment,
you will know how your belief system is creating this problem. Then, you are able to release it. After you release it, there is space for you to put in new belief system.

Second step comes in then, it is the affirm part because at this stage you already know what really causes problem, so you should be able to rewrite your belief system now. Once you rewrite it with consciousness, things will start to go to the direction you want to go.

Sometimes after a while the old belief system will come in again, however this time you should be able to identify it quite fast so you are able to release it again and rewrite it again.

All this process counts on your awareness and ability to observe yourself. This is why we need to do meditation. We practice to observe ourselves through meditation and connect with our higher self. You will get guidance from your inner wisdom.

When you have strong emotion toward something, find a quiet spot, close your eyes, allow this emotion to flow and see how it influences your body, then ask yourself why you have such strong reaction toward this. You should be able to get the answer right away, which is your belief system.

Good luck and hope this work for you as well.
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