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Old 11-13-2011, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We've just touched upon the wonders of the mind in another thread and to my mind this article is a great example of the mind's imaginings. There is really no substance to anything he says and yet what a great story his mind has created.


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It never ceases to amaze me how much spiritual help we are receiving in these critical days leading up to The Shift of the ages.

As explained previously, since January 2008 I have begun each day in communication with an ascended master from the spiritual hierarchy who provides answers to my questions and inspirations for my spiritual writing. When I have a question that requires an answer from a specialist, I get the answer the next day, sometimes with the specialist showing up to expand on the answer.

In October 2010, my assignment as an inspirational writer for the spiritual hierarchy took on a whole new level of meaning. I must have been doing something right in the previous years because, all of a sudden, one of their most senior members offered to take me directly under his wing!

Most of the spiritual hierarchy operate in fourth-density ascended physical bodies. Their retreats are located in upper fourth density, where they continually work to hold the light for the balance of life upon earth.

A moment’s thought will reveal that, were the self-serving actions of the majority of humans around the world to reflect back upon them unchecked then civilization would fail in a very short time. It is the continual use and transmission of spiritual energy by the spiritual hierarchy that maintains the essential energetic balance for this world.

The senior members of the spiritual hierarchy operate in sixth density (‘6D’). Lower 6D is the angelic realm, while upper 6D is the realm of archangels and global spirits. A global spirit is an intelligence whose field of awareness circles the globe and they are always ready to respond to any human request with an increase of focus upon the requester.

There are many global spirits, including the more well-known ones such as the Lord Jesus, the Lord Buddha, and the Lord Krishna. If you form a mental request to contact the Lord Jesus, for example, you will bring his attention towards you. If you continue this exercise by asking for inspiration, guidance or healing, he will intensify his presence in your location in order to respond to your request. Now you know how he manages to service millions of concurrent calls for his attention every Easter Sunday!

A recent addition to the archangel realm is one who serves as the Lord Protector of The Shift. He is not the only one serving in this role, but he is the leader of a team dedicated to that task. You should be aware that there are forces in this world, primarily in the lower astral realms, who do not wish humanity to ascend in consciousness. You can be assured that none of their plans for interference will come to fruition because The Shift is part of God’s Cosmic Plan for Earth.
Is he talking about evil demons or evil people who have plans to stop the shift occurring? Holy Moses. But very dramatic creating the problem to which he has the solution. Good story line.

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The Shift is not an option, which is why an archangel-class specialist has been sent to head up this protective project.

It was the Lord Protector of The Shift who approached me in October 2010 and offered to communicate with me and offer guidance on a regular basis. My role (which I gladly accepted once I had recovered from the shock!) is to pass along information that is urgently needed for the benefit of the lightworkers of earth.

I believe that I was chosen for this role as a messenger because I have an open mind which assimilates new information and I have a track record of passing it along to others. Had I one of those ‘water glass already full’ attitudes, where a person thinks they already know everything, I would have been of no use as a messenger of new ideas and the offer would not have been made.

The Lord Protector pointed out that it is important to make sure people know that the more they read new spiritual information, the more they add these new ideas to the global mind atmosphere or ‘mind belt’ of earth. Once these new concepts circulate in the mind belt, they propagate and become readily understandable to other people all over the world.

I have spent the last several weeks transcribing information about powerful archetypes that people can utilize for enlightenment and self-empowerment. This is extensive material so, when it is ready, it will be released as a course of information.

In the meantime, I will pass on some urgent pointers via this newsletter. First, there will be information about something called the 2012 Gateway Trajectory. Second, it is important to understand why you, as a spiritual seeker and lightworker, are probably a lot more advanced that you believe yourself to be.

Until next week...
Can't wait for the 2012 Gateway Trajectory.

Seriously, all these spiritual archetypes e.g. an ascended master from the spiritual hierarchy and the lord protector etc. are all aspects of himself and all in his own head. But the greatest power lies in that the author believes it without question. Now that's the true power of the mind.
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Hi Maguru, I have received a lot of those messages recently, many from this community. I have no clue whether some of these wonderful minds are scientifically or fictionally creative, but at least they are consistent. i only trust the messages that I get from the Tao. And at the risk of having a 'wonderful mind' myself, I am told that we should aim high, very high, when it comes to our spiritual journey.

Happy traveling ...

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But the greatest power lies in that the author believes it without question.
Now that's the true power of the mind.
Hi Paula,
I will return to this shortly. And yes, we are still friends. You can Believe in this too. I supported you in your thread... with genuine Love, & Smiles, & Hugs, & Flowers because this is who I am.

See you in a bit. HAPPY Sunday, my friend.
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Sorry Mac my eyes glazed over half way through, but yes great story. I see a lot of these stories of late all full of similar imagery. I'm just glad someones out there fighting the dark forces.
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Lol I'm glad someone else thinks they are as silly as I do.

I trust very few channeled messages that I see. The last statement that you quoted speaks volumes. it is about feeling advanced. We're advanced because we work with archangels, masters, lord protectors, whatever. It's like another religion, and such people defend their religion with just as much vigor.

It can be harmful. I know someone who got caught up with someone who believed in all of this, and he told my friend that he had some kind of evil program implanted in him. It made him really discouraged and depressed.

I don't believe all these stories anymore. They're just creations of mind, just like every religion, spiritual path, etc.
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Hi Maguru, I have received a lot of those messages recently, many from this community. I have no clue whether some of these wonderful minds are scientifically or fictionally creative, but at least they are consistent. i only trust the messages that I get from the Tao. And at the risk of having a 'wonderful mind' myself, I am told that we should aim high, very high, when it comes to our spiritual journey.

Happy traveling ...

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Hi Zeitgeist, I think we all have wonderful minds and are misusing them through filling them with concepts that have no bearing on reality. However, the contents of the mind has everything to do with the person it belongs to. In this it is very powerful. We are a product of what is in the mind. Those who manipulate and control know this only too well and use the power of the minds for self-gratification, but we do it to ourselves too. This article of Owen's must surely make him feel special?

I think he clearly demonstrates the power of the mind and I think that being lost in our own thoughts could be the obstacle to realizing the full potential of our minds. I got a glimpse of it and I want to know more.
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I will return to this shortly. And yes, we are still friends. You can Believe in this too. I supported you in your thread... with genuine Love, & Smiles, & Hugs, & Flowers because this is who I am.

See you in a bit. HAPPY Sunday, my friend.
yes, you have supported me and I felt it. luv to you

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Sorry Mac my eyes glazed over half way through, but yes great story. I see a lot of these stories of late all full of similar imagery. I'm just glad someones out there fighting the dark forces.
And the dark forces aren't 'out there' either.
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Lol I'm glad someone else thinks they are as silly as I do.

I trust very few channeled messages that I see. The last statement that you quoted speaks volumes. it is about feeling advanced. We're advanced because we work with archangels, masters, lord protectors, whatever. It's like another religion, and such people defend their religion with just as much vigor.

It can be harmful. I know someone who got caught up with someone who believed in all of this, and he told my friend that he had some kind of evil program implanted in him. It made him really discouraged and depressed.

I don't believe all these stories anymore. They're just creations of mind, just like every religion, spiritual path, etc.
Hmmm, there's a fine line between sanity and insanity and I think after reading Owen's work for years, he has crossed it. For him to step back from this now would most definitely leave him very depressed or worse. My brother is as lost in his religious beliefs so much so, he's been diagnosed schizophrenic. It's fascinating listening to him and I see a wonderful imagination but he believes it and my brother has gone. It can be harmful to be so lost in your own thoughts regardless of what they are.
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And the dark forces aren't 'out there' either.
OMG....you mean I've been invaded eeeek....get me some holy water
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You were born that way.
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Damn and I was hoping to blame my parents
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you have supported me and I felt it. luv to you
Thanks for Returning the kindness given. And thanks for starting this thread.
(tho I admit I haven't really read the 2 quotes you started this with)

Instead your Title caught me: "the Wonders of the Mind"
See, as a Christian, I am sooo grateful for this marvelous... Resource God created us with, called our mind

oh my! it is far better than any man-made computer could ever be;
because of ALL the Positive, Constructive emotions we are Blessed with, & FREE to feel & entertain any time that we want. - Remember, the Thread I shared with you earlier about the Exquisite 100+ emotions we can Allow ourself feeling each day whenever we want...
And that's just for starters... in our Conscious mind.

We would spend literally years discussing the Wonders
of our SUBconscious mind, and hardly scratch the surface.

What are your Thoughts Paula on this magnificent... subject?
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Thanks for Returning the kindness given. And thanks for starting this thread.
(tho I admit I haven't really read the 2 quotes you started this with)

Instead your Title caught me: "the Wonders of the Mind"
See, as a Christian, I am sooo grateful for this marvelous... Resource God created us with, called our mind

oh my! it is far better than any man-made computer could ever be;
because of ALL the Positive, Constructive emotions we are Blessed with, & FREE to feel & entertain any time that we want. - Remember, the Thread I shared with you earlier about the Exquisite 100+ emotions we can Allow ourself feeling each day whenever we want...
And that's just for starters... in our Conscious mind.

We would spend literally years discussing the Wonders
of our SUBconscious mind, and hardly scratch the surface.

What are your Thoughts Paula on this magnificent... subject?
Hi, I'm not really looking at what we create on the outside through our minds but who we create as human beings on the inside through the mind. I think we have only tapped into a little of our mind's capability and what strikes me most is how our minds can fool us. The mind just gets full of 'knowledge' and leaves no room for reason. I think the power of the mind can clearly be seen when there is no separation between mind and self.
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I'm not really looking at what we create on the outside through our minds
but who we create as human beings on the inside through the mind.
I think we have only tapped into a little of our mind's capability...
I think the power of the mind can clearly be seen
when there is no separation between mind and self.
Bravo Paula, for you realizing, that *most of what we are* is a re...creation of our own mind.

Tho God did Start us off there's no escaping this. THANK God!

Do you know, that in 11 days I'll be 60, as in yrs
But because in the depths of my being, my BELIEF is I'm perpetually 23, my body is bound to be obedient to my will.

Now, for the 1st. time in my life, I was forced into a hospital thrice this year, & am Hernia-post-surgery only 2 weeks. - Yet today, I was discharged by the Surgeon, with these words: "Your whole little body just screams Commitment, like in your soul you have that FIRE, that passion... to just GO FOR IT
and
He said: I know you know how (unfortunately) unique you are; as our other post-op patients, we have to poke & prod, to get them to even MOVE. - Yet, you are at the opposite end, wanting 'permission right after surgery' to Drive yourself on, more... faster, higher... you have the heart of a little Figureskating champion, and I wish you the VERY BEST!"

Well Paula, I think my mind is re-creating pretty well; what do you think?
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Bravo Paula, for you realizing, that *most of what we are* is a re...creation of our own mind.
Thankyou. This is exactly what I have become aware of. It speaks volumes.

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Tho God did Start us off there's no escaping this. THANK God!

Do you know, that in 11 days I'll be 60, as in yrs
But because in the depths of my being, my BELIEF is I'm perpetually 23, my body is bound to be obedient to my will.

Now, for the 1st. time in my life, I was forced into a hospital thrice this year, & am Hernia-post-surgery only 2 weeks. - Yet today, I was discharged by the Surgeon, with these words: "Your whole little body just screams Commitment, like in your soul you have that FIRE, that passion... to just GO FOR IT
and
He said: I know you know how (unfortunately) unique you are; as our other post-op patients, we have to poke & prod, to get them to even MOVE. - Yet, you are at the opposite end, wanting 'permission right after surgery' to Drive yourself on, more... faster, higher... you have the heart of a little Figureskating champion, and I wish you the VERY BEST!"

Well Paula, I think my mind is re-creating pretty well; what do you think?
And you are the living proof. I became aware of my mind as being separate several years ago. It's taken me this long to unravel and un-create the mess I had become. I am very careful about what goes in it now.

I've just begun re-training my mind into acceptance as is. Already a lot of my angst is dissipating, though I do feel flat. I accept that too but it isn't easy to let go and shut the mind up. I firmly believe as you say that we are a "re-creation of the contents of our minds" and I'm thinking that in knowing your own mind, you will know you. Knowing you, you can change the content of the mind and create a new you and the possibilities must be endless. with luv
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Thankyou. This is exactly what I have become aware of. It speaks volumes.
And you are the living proof.

It's taken me this long to unravel and un-create the mess I had become.
I am very careful about what goes in it now.

Already a lot of my angst is dissipating, though I do feel flat.
I accept that too but it isn't easy to let go and shut the mind up.

I firmly believe as you say that we are a "re-creation of the contents of our minds" and
I'm thinking that in knowing your own mind, you will know you.
Knowing you, you can change the content of the mind and
create a new you and the possibilities must be endless. with luv
okay, understandable that
(when it is FLAT; or worse negative), you "want to shut the mind up".
But
Paula: Remember this LIST of the 100+ Positive-emotions I shared with you before...
My word! You do not have enough hours in a day to CYCLE-thru even 1/4 of them.

How in the world, could you find time to feel FLAT, or worse?

I'm serious when I say, my chats with God are predominantly positive,
except for my pleading: PLEASE, make my day 30-hrs. long...
I have soo much living I want to fill... each one with

Know what I mean, Paula?
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okay, understandable that
(when it is FLAT; or worse negative), you "want to shut the mind up".
But
Paula: Remember this LIST of the 100+ Positive-emotions I shared with you before...
My word! You do not have enough hours in a day to CYCLE-thru even 1/4 of them.

How in the world, could you find time to feel FLAT, or worse?

I'm serious when I say, my chats with God are predominantly positive,
except for my pleading: PLEASE, make my day 30-hrs. long...
I have soo much living I want to fill... each one with

Know what I mean, Paula?
Yes, I understand what you are saying and I'm happy for you. At the moment though, it's ok for me to feel flat. It's a genuine response to my mind's acceptance of things as they are. I guess what I am aiming for is my mind and emotions to be in harmony without effort and without attachment.
I want to just BE without second guessing myself or worrying about how others perceive me or miserable because my life didn't turn out the way I had wished or feeling guilt because I have more than some or trying to change those things I cannot etc etc etc. My mind has been my enemy because I was the product of the contents of my mind which as you say, just kept on repeating or re-creating more of the same. I'm drawing to a halt and making friends with this potentially wonderful mind of mine.
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I find it incredible that acceptance / surrender is always what we are reduced to after trying everything else. I mean it is not as if they are alien concepts. Surrender seems to wait in the wings until the show is over before making itself known.
The old saying rings true about ending in the same place you start but seeing it for the first time.
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I find it incredible that acceptance / surrender is always what we are reduced to after trying everything else. I mean it is not as if they are alien concepts. Surrender seems to wait in the wings until the show is over before making itself known.
The old saying rings true about ending in the same place you start but seeing it for the first time.
Yes, I've heard it many times but the notion of surrender is far more complicated than I first imagined. We have much ingrained and unconscious behaviour that keeps the show running.
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Yes, I've heard it many times but the notion of surrender is far more complicated than I first imagined. We have much ingrained and unconscious behaviour that keeps the show running.
Where as maybe letting go is an ongoing option, the act of surrender, at least to me seems born out of repeated failure and can't be manufactured. The mind may decide on surrender but surrender seems to wait for certain conditions to manifest.
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Where as maybe letting go is an ongoing option, the act of surrender, at least to me seems born out of repeated failure and can't be manufactured. The mind may decide on surrender but surrender seems to wait for certain conditions to manifest.
I agree, though I like to view failure as 'a not working' mode. Have you personal experience of surrendering?
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I agree, though I like to view failure as 'a not working' mode. Have you personal experience of surrendering?
Yes. What I related comes from that. Like just about any great ' shift ' I have witnessed surrender to come from me but not because of me I hope that makes sense. I think we spoke a while back about the awakening process...I have seen surrender manifest directly from that.
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Yes. What I related comes from that. Like just about any great ' shift ' I have witnessed surrender to come from me but not because of me I hope that makes sense. I think we spoke a while back about the awakening process...I have seen surrender manifest directly from that.
I'm not sure what you mean by surrender not coming from you because mine is in direct relationship to me/my mind. I guess it doesn't actually feel like surrender to me but more of an acceptance of what is and of who I am, all through my mind. If I'm surrendering at all then it is in my fighting of what is. Two sides, I think.

Did you make any changes to your thinking or has your perceptions of reality changed or has your sense of self changed?
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I'm not sure what you mean by surrender not coming from you because mine is in direct relationship to me/my mind. I guess it doesn't actually feel like surrender to me but more of an acceptance of what is and of who I am, all through my mind. If I'm surrendering at all then it is in my fighting of what is. Two sides, I think.

Did you make any changes to your thinking or has your perceptions of reality changed or has your sense of self changed?
I guess that best explains it...that surrender is not born of mind. The concept sure, but the process does not seem to be answerable to the mind's time frame or urgings. I have literally experienced being reduced to a quivering pile of sobbing meat before surrender reveals itself. Maybe I am just stubborn, I would love to hear other peoples experiences with it.

If anything my attitude has been one of the witness at best. There certainly are changes to sense of self which in turn affects individual reality. The changes are a result of the collapse of illusions. Almost like the Emporers New Clothes in reverse. You have worn the suit for so long that when it is finally ripped from you ...well your mind doesn't quite know what to make of you that remains. It seems to take a while to embrace this 'nothing' that is left.

But what you said about the mental conflict towards surrender ...... that to me are the seeds of success.
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I guess that best explains it...that surrender is not born of mind. The concept sure, but the process does not seem to be answerable to the mind's time frame or urgings. I have literally experienced being reduced to a quivering pile of sobbing meat before surrender reveals itself.
It seems it is a prerequisite. Can you tell me any more about the actual surrendering?

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Maybe I am just stubborn, I would love to hear other peoples experiences with it.
There always seems to be resistance for me too. I usually don't like that I am having to accept.

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If anything my attitude has been one of the witness at best. There certainly are changes to sense of self which in turn affects individual reality. The changes are a result of the collapse of illusions. Almost like the Emporers New Clothes in reverse. You have worn the suit for so long that when it is finally ripped from you ...well your mind doesn't quite know what to make of you that remains. It seems to take a while to embrace this 'nothing' that is left.
Is it loss of identity? Is that what we are actually surrendering?

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Yes, I intended to stop the mental conflict and in that occurring there is a sense of peace. What are you looking for in terms of success?
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The aspect of surrendering that I have attempted to manufacture is generally meditative. Sit and give yourself over to ____fill in the blank. However this is different to the act of surrender bought on by awakening ( I kinda hate that word ). That surrender is in the same vein as seeing a child in front of an oncoming car...totally reactive in the moment and your impulses are directedoutside of the mind.


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Is it loss of identity? Is that what we are actually surrendering?
Egoic identity. You hear stories of how relationships fall apart and people seek new directions after an ' opening '......it is true. What I found is that my reasons for doing the work I did, being with the people I was with and enjoying the activities I did...were sourced out and based around what stimulated my illusions. So those illusions or props take a big hit and collapse and badda bing.....you have no emotional investment left in any of it any more. It can be like living in a vacumn. That doesn't mean that these areas of your life can't be rebuilt or reinstated. What it means is it is rebuilt with different values.


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Yes, I intended to stop the mental conflict and in that occurring there is a sense of peace. What are you looking for in terms of success?
I don't seem to think the same way that I used to. I can't even say whether this is a good thing or a bad thing...it is just a thing. The whole aspect of success, betterment or outcome has also been affected by egoic collapse.....at this stage I am simply allowing all to be and manifest as necessary...or at least trying to.

All the above 'stuff' appears only relevant for my trip. I don't expect everybody needs that sort of wake up call. I'm just a bit thick haha. So ' your surrender ' will be different to mine along with your trip. Its good talking though.

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The aspect of surrendering that I have attempted to manufacture is generally meditative. Sit and give yourself over to ____fill in the blank.
Give in to however you are feeling or do you mean something else?

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However this is different to the act of surrender bought on by awakening ( I kinda hate that word ). That surrender is in the same vein as seeing a child in front of an oncoming car...totally reactive in the moment and your impulses are directed outside of the mind.
Being spontaneous without a second thought?

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I tend not to use the concept of ego because it's all me. I found it useful to observe aspects of me but they weren't truly false. I had become all these aspects of myself and most just had to go.

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You hear stories of how relationships fall apart and people seek new directions after an ' opening '......it is true. What I found is that my reasons for doing the work I did, being with the people I was with and enjoying the activities I did...were sourced out and based around what stimulated my illusions. So those illusions or props take a big hit and collapse and badda bing.....you have no emotional investment left in any of it any more. It can be like living in a vacumn. That doesn't mean that these areas of your life can't be rebuilt or reinstated. What it means is it is rebuilt with different values.
It's hard isn't it? It does restructure your whole mentality and I too have lost my passions that went along with the old aspects of me. I think priorities do shift and life becomes less complicated. Expectations drop to a minimum and acceptance of whatever shows up is inevitable.

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I don't seem to think the same way that I used to. I can't even say whether this is a good thing or a bad thing...it is just a thing. The whole aspect of success, betterment or outcome has also been affected by egoic collapse.....at this stage I am simply allowing all to be and manifest as necessary...or at least trying to.

All the above 'stuff' appears only relevant for my trip. I don't expect everybody needs that sort of wake up call. I'm just a bit thick haha. So ' your surrender ' will be different to mine along with your trip. Its good talking though.
I don't find you to be thick at all. I have no doubt this is personal transformation and as you say, it is completely unique. I still feel like I am the same person but I know my perspective on life is completely different. Might just be my age. heheheh
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whatever happened to this WONDERFUL MIND you said
you started this thread for... it is THIS I want to participate in, what about you?
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It is going to vary depending on the person. I am relating mainly to very dense, core ...fears. The stuff that underpins your life subtley that manifests at times like this. I guess the closest I can come to insofar as describing that surrender ...and bearing in mind it is an intuitive process, is to embrace, become one, let it take you over with no resistance. It's a paper tiger, as you know.

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I understand. And yes semantics can be a bugger at times. But I guess I call it as I see it, being me. Obviously what fell away wasn't...me or my true nature or however you describe it. So for the purpose of naming the wheat and the chaff I labelled it a certain way.
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It's hard isn't it? It does restructure your whole mentality and I too have lost my passions that went along with the old aspects of me. I think priorities do shift and life becomes less complicated. Expectations drop to a minimum and acceptance of whatever shows up is inevitable.
Yes absolutely. I can't even entertain a concept of where I'll be at the end of the line...if indeed that concept is vallid hahaha. I am still very much coming to terms with groundlessness and life beyond what I knew to make a call.
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I don't find you to be thick at all. I have no doubt this is personal transformation and as you say, it is completely unique. I still feel like I am the same person but I know my perspective on life is completely different. Might just be my age. heheheh
Deep down I feel the same way but so much has changed that I feel I don't really know right from left these days. I heard once that 40% of institutionalized mental patients are there because of a dodgy spiritual experience and though I was never dellusional there have been many times during this that I felt like I was gonna lose it completely. So I guess I'm not as certain these days. Oh and part of my trip was to totally embrace that where I started from was from failure and ignorance and by acknowledging my own stupidity has enabled me to wipe the slate. As previously said ...thats just my thing so as not to get too enthrolled with my mind.
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Yes of course my friend, eventually. The thing is I see the wonder of the mind as a relationship between me and my thoughts, just as I saw it in Owen's article. I believe the thoughts do re-create who we are and so I see the mind as a powerful creative force. Unfortunately, it doesn't create only pleasurable experiences or even a good sense of self. Usually, it is a down-turn that elicits the challenge and change in thinking. This is what I find remarkable. We can change who we are. We can change how we feel. We can change our relationships. We can change our perceptions and beliefs and it all comes through the mind.
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