I feel like I'm in heaven

[spacetime]

Hey guys, I'm hoping someone here can help me out.

Right now I feel like I'm in heaven. It's been two days so far like this. I don't just mean I feel good. I mean literally, I feel like I'm in heaven. I don't even know how to describe it.

I'm posting this here because I don't know how to tell this to anyone in real life. People might think I'm crazy. I just need to tell someone though.

I'm hoping someone here has experienced this and can understand.

Is this what enlightenment is? Does it just stay this way for the rest of my life? I hope it does.

[Luciddd]

Please describe your experience better, is it a "feeling of being in heaven" or is it accompained by mystical elements like visions and beautiful sounds?

[spacetime]

It's like I've been here my whole life but I didn't realize it, and now I'm finally remembering. It's hard to describe. It's like lucid dreaming, but way better.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by spacetime

It's like I've been here my whole life but I didn't realize it, and now I'm finally remembering. It's hard to describe. It's like lucid dreaming, but way better.

Better than Lucid Dreaming? How can it be?

[auburn]

Yes, I think I may understand.

I have had that last Spring. Just woke up after a meaningful dream of a dead loved one feeling soooo good about everything. Everything is perfect, everything makes sense, I'm all right, you're all right, every body is all right. Also, some insight that whatever I do, things are gonna bend according to my will because I am united with everything and the will of anything or anybody. It's so different from the regular frame of mind of most people that it's a bit scary. Scary good.

It lasted a month for me. It was a very good place to be but I was wondering how long I would live the dream, faced with the harsh reality of the earth plane!

Figured it was some kind of peak experience as Maslow described it or a spiritual experience similar to a temporary or preliminary enlightenment. A little satori! Later I found out this book that I still haven't read. Maybe some of you have?

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by Luciddd

Better than Lucid Dreaming? How can it be?

Basically, it IS lucid dreaming. Except in real life. It's like the whole world is just my imagination.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by auburn

the harsh reality of the earth plane!

This is basically why I asked how it could be better than Lucid Dreamin, as this is not present in LD, perhaps in his experience he found a way to bypass that or his state somehow is at least temporarilly unaffected by the physical limitations of the earth plane (yeah I know, sounds very hard to believe but well "impossible" is a word I have been questioning for quite a time). After all the physical world is supposedly a dream too, so it would be too far fetched in theory.

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by auburn

Yes, I think I may understand.

I have had that last Spring. Just woke up after a meaningful dream of a dead loved one feeling soooo good about everything. Everything is perfect, everything makes sense, I'm all right, you're all right, every body is all right. Also, some insight that whatever I do, things are gonna bend according to my will because I am united with everything and the will of anything or anybody.

It lasted a month for me. It was a very good place to be but I was wondering how long I would live the dream, faced with the harsh reality of the earth plane!

Figured it was some kind of peak experience as Maslow described it or a spiritual experience similar to a temporary or preliminary enlightenment. A little satori! Later I found out this book that I still haven't read. Maybe some of you have?

Thanks for the response. I wonder if you experienced what I'm experiencing. I would love to hear more.

It almost seems like there's different levels to this. It's kind of like what you described, but a lot more than that.

I hope this isn't temporary.

[auburn]

Originally Posted by spacetime

It's kind of like what you described, but a lot more than that.

What more would you need if it's all perfect?

But maybe you mean to say it's a different experience.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by auburn

What more would you need if it's all perfect?

But maybe you mean to say it's a different experience.

Perhaps there are different levels of perfection, just as how some people belive infinity have different levels.

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by auburn

What more would you need if it's all perfect?

But maybe you mean to say it's a different experience.

Well, it's tough to say because I don't know what your experience was like. But for me, it's more than just "everything's all right"... like I said before, it's really hard to describe... and on top of that it feels like im just talking to myself right now

im not a religious person, but it seems like everything i've ever heard about heaven was referring to this state of consciousness that im in right now

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by spacetime

Well, it's tough to say because I don't know what your experience was like. But for me, it's more than just "everything's all right"... like I said before, it's really hard to describe... and on top of that it feels like im just talking to myself right now

im not a religious person, but it seems like everything i've ever heard about heaven was referring to this state of consciousness that im in right now

Interesting, what happen when in that state you go to sleep? Or you dont sleep anymore?

[auburn]

Originally Posted by spacetime

and on top of that it feels like im just talking to myself right now

Like you cannot connect to another about that experience. Fair enough, that happens.

Those experiences can be difficult to put into words but just because a few words sound too common, don't just go dismissing it. If ''all right'' sounds too ordinary maybe ''perfect'' is too.

Anyway, enjoy it and I hope it lasts.

[TheJourney]

I definitely know what you're talking about! The "unfortunate" thing is that, for me, it didn't last forever. I have had multiple experiences of it, though. The positive thing is that it is always available. As you say, it is clear when you're experiencing it that this is the way it always is, we just don't normally notice it. I've fallen out of it for a bit, but I am hoping to get back there. I think I am making some headway. Just to give some personal advice, weed always brings me there. Idk what your feelings are on that, just wanted to let you know. It is certainly available without weed, but weed always brings me there. Anyways, it's absolutely incredible isn't it! Interaction with others is strange during it, in my experience. Cuz it seems to me that everyone else sees it too, but they don't really talk about it. It seems to me that it is the assumption underlying all of reality, and therefore it doesn't need to be vocalized. That makes the play of normal life function, and remain illusive, because it doesn't need to be talked about too explicitly. But when you see it, it's clear.

Oh, and you are just talking to yourself right now. We're one consciousness interacting with itself, playing different roles. That's all this is. A play.

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by TheJourney

I definitely know what you're talking about! The "unfortunate" thing is that, for me, it didn't last forever. I have had multiple experiences of it, though. The positive thing is that it is always available. As you say, it is clear when you're experiencing it that this is the way it always is, we just don't normally notice it. I've fallen out of it for a bit, but I am hoping to get back there. I think I am making some headway. Just to give some personal advice, weed always brings me there. Idk what your feelings are on that, just wanted to let you know. It is certainly available without weed, but weed always brings me there. Anyways, it's absolutely incredible isn't it! Interaction with others is strange during it, in my experience. Cuz it seems to me that everyone else sees it too, but they don't really talk about it. It seems to me that it is the assumption underlying all of reality, and therefore it doesn't need to be vocalized. That makes the play of normal life function, and remain illusive, because it doesn't need to be talked about too explicitly. But when you see it, it's clear.

Oh, and you are just talking to yourself right now. We're one consciousness interacting with itself, playing different roles. That's all this is. A play.

YES! You definitely know what I'm talking about.

Interesting that you bring up weed because that's exactly how I got here, lol. I didn't smoke for a couple weeks, and then I smoked with my friend and had a weird experience. It almost felt like he was saying things that I was thinking at times. Something felt strange... So then I smoked again later that night by myself, and that's when everything changed. I don't know how to describe it, but it's like I see and feel the emptiness everywhere... But I thought that it was just from the weed, until I woke up the next morning with the same feeling only much more clear. Today is day 3 and I'm still here. This is awesome.

I really wish everyone could feel this way all the time, and like you said, it feels like they do! It almost feels like everyone else has been here in heaven the whole time and I just didn't realize it. A lot of music is very clearly coming from this place. It seems like a lot of people out there are feeling like this but they just don't talk about it because it's so obvious. That's why it's confusing to me and I had to post this on here. I just want to know how common this experience is, and how I can stay here.

[TheJourney]

Originally Posted by spacetime

YES! You definitely know what I'm talking about.

Interesting that you bring up weed because that's exactly how I got here, lol. I didn't smoke for a couple weeks, and then I smoked with my friend and had a weird experience. It almost felt like he was saying things that I was thinking at times. Something felt strange... So then I smoked again later that night by myself, and that's when everything changed. I don't know how to describe it, but it's like I see and feel the emptiness everywhere... But I thought that it was just from the weed, until I woke up the next morning with the same feeling only much more clear. Today is day 3 and I'm still here. This is awesome.

Yea, it's often the case that when weed helps you get there, you'll feel like/worry that it's only the result of being high, and that it will go away. As you have seen, though, that's not the case. That's not to take away the significance of weed, because it seems clear to me that it is a very useful tool, and in no way bad; nonetheless, it is just making is easier to achieve certain states of consciousness that are always available.

I really wish everyone could feel this way all the time, and like you said, it feels like they do! It almost feels like everyone else has been here in heaven the whole time and I just didn't realize it. A lot of music is very clearly coming from this place. It seems like a lot of people out there are feeling like this but they just don't talk about it because it's so obvious. That's why it's confusing to me and I had to post this on here. I just want to know how common this experience is, and how I can stay here.

You know, I'm actually really happy you posted this thread! Nice to see someone really see the significance of this and talk about it. Other people, in relation to you, can be confusing in this state, if you try to analyze it. Cuz it seems shockingly obvious that they're seeing what you're seeing, and that they always have, and yet when you think about it it doesn't make sense that that could be the case, because you see how amazingly incredible it is, yet they've never seemed to feel that way letalone talk about it. The best way I have come up with to look at it, and to assist in making the most out of the state, is as I said in my last post. This is a play. We're all acting. No one has any real tangible identity. They know they're playing too, but yet part of the game is playing along with it. So, recognize that you're just playing, as is everyone else, and play it to the fullest. It's always seemed to me that it was like a huge secret between me and reality, or everyone in reality. They just want me to play along, and that's the fun; we know we're playing, and yet we're actually pretending it's real.

Yes, music. I have had the exact same thoughts. These musicians seem to definitely be making their music from this awareness, and if you pay attention it is so incredible what they are saying. Yet noone notices it! That's the crazy thing about all this. It's so obvious, but noone talks about it. Tv/movies are the same way. "Real life," music, TV, movies, the internet...they're all the same. They're all just different forms of reality. And reality is as you are seeing it, in all of its forms. That bumps up the amount of things that can be enjoyed and seen from this state to a whole nother level. Let me give you the best advice I can, and it was my strategy for maintaining that state that worked for quite a while. The last time, I really don't know exactly how long it lasted(time basically loses its meaning in that state), but I'm pretty sure it was over a month, maybe 2 months. Idk exactly. Immersion. Immerse yourself in reality. Forget completely about yourself. Stop trying to function as an individual in reality. Feel yourself merging with reality, and just let reality flow through you. Act purely on instinct. You're just playing. None of it's serious. That's what's fun, and that's what helps you maintain the state. You can do anything you want. Life has a shocking amount that can be enjoyed, and you can play it any way you want.

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by spacetime

It's like I've been here my whole life but I didn't realize it, and now I'm finally remembering. It's hard to describe. It's like lucid dreaming, but way better.

Huh, yes, I think I resonate with that. Like it was never gone, you're just waking up to it. All the suffering in the past just feels like a bad dream.

I'm not in heaven now, but I've been there, I think. I think it was because the intense pain from my disease forced me to wake up. I really would love to get back there.

From what I've heard from other accounts, it can come and go, or it can be permanent... depends. Are you feeling lucky?

[ChristsLight]

It is a spiritual high, and there will be lows that come after it. The fact that you say "hopefully this never ends" points to the fact that it's just a temporary state. In true enlightenment, there's no concern of how you feel, just in being. Everything is already perfect how it is, whether or not you feel great, and its perfect if it ends, too. There's no attachment to the emotional state.

Enjoy this, certainly, but perhaps you can try not to become attached to it. Otherwise you will worry so much about it ending that you will force it to end.

[RonSouther]

Originally Posted by spacetime

But for me, it's more than just "everything's all right"...

That speaks for me....about a year and a half ago, I had a string of breath stopping revelations that left me feeling just like this. That a huge turning point in my journey, manifested by immediate changes in my daily routine.

For example, I had a been a big Glenn Beck fan but suddenly found myself unable to watch him anymore because I had outgrown him. Wherever he was, I trandscended him and could no longer tune in. I never saw that coming.

I had a sudden love for exceptionally produced nature shows. I don't care for the ones where a lion is devouring an antelope. The series that Oprah narrated for me was breathtaking.

I no longer could watch war movies or read novels.

None of these changes were decisions. I simply lost my appetite.

[ChristsLight]

Originally Posted by RonSouther

That speaks for me....about a year and a half ago, I had a string of breath stopping revelations that left me feeling just like this. That a huge turning point in my journey, manifested by immediate changes in my daily routine.

For example, I had a been a big Glenn Beck fan but suddenly found myself unable to watch him anymore because I had outgrown him. Wherever he was, I trandscended him and could no longer tune in. I never saw that coming.

I had a sudden love for exceptionally produced nature shows. I don't care for the ones where a lion is devouring an antelope. The series that Oprah narrated for me was breathtaking.

I no longer could watch war movies or read novels.

None of these changes were decisions. I simply lost my appetite.

I know what you are saying here. I've noticed that as I progress, I become more empathetic. I'm more attuned to the emotions of people.

[RonSouther]

Originally Posted by ChristsLight

I know what you are saying here. I've noticed that as I progress, I become more empathetic. I'm more attuned to the emotions of people.

My sensitivity people, to noise, to light, etc...., goes up and up...

I'm self-diagnosed ADD which to me is simply someone that processes more of the environment around him by nature. And that bipolar is an even greater sensitivity...just supercharged mind that has amazing processor power in a society that doesn't get this and rejects it as weird or worse.

Especially for ADD, I don't think it is a medical issue, but a misunderstanding that turns into a negative ego that leads to addictions to escape the confusion. And I suspect bipolar is that too.

My judgment of people plummented...I sincerely don't judge for any sake of ego. I got strong opinions that sound like judgment but so sincerely, I got not superiority/inferiority issue like that. I have never been more accepting. "Live and let live" comes alive now where before I had no idea what it really meant because I wasn't "living". I was to scared to be me as I was raised to be a peacekeeper and suck it up.

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by TheJourney

It's always seemed to me that it was like a huge secret between me and reality, or everyone in reality. They just want me to play along, and that's the fun; we know we're playing, and yet we're actually pretending it's real.

Wow, you're hitting really close to home right now... you almost sound like my own subconscious talking to me

It's like at a certain level of our subconscious we always know the truth, but we get so lost in the game that we forget it's just a game and we think it's real... it's bizarre

it's like we know and we don't know at the same time

Yes, music. I have had the exact same thoughts. These musicians seem to definitely be making their music from this awareness, and if you pay attention it is so incredible what they are saying. Yet noone notices it! That's the crazy thing about all this. It's so obvious, but noone talks about it. Tv/movies are the same way. "Real life," music, TV, movies, the internet...they're all the same. They're all just different forms of reality. And reality is as you are seeing it, in all of its forms. That bumps up the amount of things that can be enjoyed and seen from this state to a whole nother level.

Exactly. From this new awareness everything seems so obvious. Everything has a new meaning from this point of view. It's like unlocking a secret code that was embedded into everything I've ever seen or heard.

Let me give you the best advice I can, and it was my strategy for maintaining that state that worked for quite a while. The last time, I really don't know exactly how long it lasted(time basically loses its meaning in that state), but I'm pretty sure it was over a month, maybe 2 months. Idk exactly. Immersion. Immerse yourself in reality. Forget completely about yourself. Stop trying to function as an individual in reality. Feel yourself merging with reality, and just let reality flow through you. Act purely on instinct. You're just playing. None of it's serious. That's what's fun, and that's what helps you maintain the state. You can do anything you want. Life has a shocking amount that can be enjoyed, and you can play it any way you want.

Thanks for the advice, I'm already noticing myself slipping in and out of this state. It's sort of like meditation. Only instead of focusing on my breath I have to focus on the world.

It's difficult because I was working on creating a website, but ever since I've been in this state it's hard to focus on my website because it just seems so pointless now. It's like that was a path that my old way of thinking led me to, but now this new awareness opens up infinite new paths I can take.

[spacetime]

Originally Posted by ChristsLight

It is a spiritual high, and there will be lows that come after it. The fact that you say "hopefully this never ends" points to the fact that it's just a temporary state. In true enlightenment, there's no concern of how you feel, just in being. Everything is already perfect how it is, whether or not you feel great, and its perfect if it ends, too. There's no attachment to the emotional state.

Enjoy this, certainly, but perhaps you can try not to become attached to it. Otherwise you will worry so much about it ending that you will force it to end.

Exactly. You've basically stated my own thoughts right here. It's like you are a physical manifestation of my own worrying thoughts.

It's so hard not to get attached to this state. Because obviously I don't want it to end, so the thought "i hope this doesn't end" arises... so then i tell myself, "don't worry"... but then im just worrying about worrying... if that makes sense. Sort of like "the only thing i have to fear is fear itself"... it's all a giant paradox.

[TheJourney]

Let me share something I just wrote

If we are in the flow, then we will naturally put our focus on what is natural to focus on. Our focus is what guides our realities. When we act under pre-conceived notions, we give up on our natural intuition that is the source of all things and therefore will lead you perfectly, As a result of this, you will get the sense that everything is working out exactly as it should. There's no reason to analyze, and start conjuring up opinions that stay with you constantly, as opposed to going with what is right in the moment. The flow is the perfect expression of our individuality, yet it is not based on us living up to some identity. When a confusion arises in your mind, realize it is senseless to analyze. Best to go with the flow. It will make the right decisions, naturally. That's your highest self.

All perspectives are based on their own time. A perception that is right for one time may not be the correct perspective for another time. This is why we get confused. We think we must carry the same perspective with us at all times. This causes confusion, because there is no one right perspective. There is only what must be, when it must be. This is always in flux.

And man I'm reading lyrics and stuff I wrote before and stuff like that and it is awesome. Like it just totally flowed from this awareness.