The Kabbalistic God makes way more sense than the "traditional version"

[Luciddd]

Seriously, in temples and curches they should give Kabbalah courses, perhaps them people would undestand that the God of the bible isnt really the vengeful and punisher God people seems to believe IT is becuase lack of understanding.

[Manasarovar]

Yeah. But too bad this is what many churches might think of the Kabbalah - Kabbalah is Satanic

Why would they want to teach people about a God they needn't be fearful of, when they *use* fear to control the masses?

[danas]

Yup. Been studying it for 13 years now. Thats my real secret to creating all the miracles in my life. Not just Intention Manifestation. But I dont talk about it much.
Also its not so much a "god" in kabbalah, more like an energy force of light.

[desertrat]

There are 2 parts to the Kabbala . One is more from Jewish roots , the other is a form of ritual magic . I think the golden dawn's rituals are from the kabbala . desert rat

[Midnite]

Not to mention that the Kabbalah is a Jewish thing, and the churches aren't exactly about to start committing open heresy just because another version of 'God' is slightly more accurate.

The word 'God' has all kinds of religious strings attached. I think that's why so many people opt to use names like 'Source' or 'Creator', as they have less implications.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by danas

Yup. Been studying it for 13 years now. Thats my real secret to creating all the miracles in my life. Not just Intention Manifestation. But I dont talk about it much.
Also its not so much a "god" in kabbalah, more like an energy force of light.

Just askind, how do you "use" Kabbalah for miracle happening?

[desertrat]

A Christain church wont have any thing to do with the kabbalah . You will either do this or on your own or with a group of others interested in the kabbalah . As I said before there are 2 parts , part 2 is probly what you want , its ritual magic . Hear are some links , there is a lot more if you want to do a search . Judaism 101: Kabbalah and Jewish Mysticism Kabbalah Education Center, Bnei Baruch Discover Kabbalah Home Golden Dawn F.A.Q., Timeline & Guide to Groups Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (1888) International Headquarters Golden Dawn Research Center - Home Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Golden Dawn Collegium - Home The Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn Some use the word qabalah Hermetic Qabalah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . desert rat

[ChristsLight]

Kabbalah is just another belief, like Christianity. It's just another concept, just as God is just another concept. It can be a tool but it's not absolute.

Moreover, the people who are Christian are supposed to be Christian, until they are not Christian anymore. Same goes for kabbalah.

[Andras]

Rawn Clark website and his writings are free online and IMHO the best guide and understanding of the ritualistic kabbala. His stuff is very advanced and based on the Bardon school "The Key to the True Quabbalah" (KTQ), frankly, a lot his stuff is way over my head because you are not even supposed to read it before you master Bardon's first book the "IIH".
Apparently there are about a half dozen people on this planet today who have actually done that. He is one of them! He is a very serious teacher and a gent who shares his knowledge freely. He has a weekly skpe (Sunday) conference that is free.

I personally use the The Magic Of IHVH-ADNI which is supposed to be a way around the hurdle of mastering "IIH" 100-percent. Here is an excerpt;

"I wrote the original Attending the Unity article in February of 1998 [the text version of which can be found by clicking here], but it wasn't until early March of 2002 that I began recording the audio Lessons in The Magic of IHVH-ADNI series. The final Lesson Nine was recorded on July 16th, 2003.

To quote the opening paragraph of Attending the Unity --
"This is the magic of combining IHVH with ADNI as I know it and practice it. I learned this magic from one whose Name will forever be unspoken. After 10 years of practice, I have been granted the words to tell you of this sacred magic. But instead of telling it as I learned it, I will tell it as I have come to understand it -- I will tell it with my own words and in my own way."

The Magic of IHVH-ADNI is focused around a Hebrew kabbalistic phrase which is spoken musically, almost in the manner of singing. It is "canted", so to speak, but in a magical way involving mental, astral and physical utterance. To this three-body speech is added the visualization of specific energy movements which occur in sync with the canticle."

[RonSouther]

Take whatever makes sense as a hypothesis, then test your hypothesis. If you can't test it, then don't worry about it...don't practice anything. Let it sit there and move onto beliefs that you can test.

No dogmas....be a scientist of the inner world.

[Luciddd]

Originally Posted by ChristsLight

Kabbalah is just another belief, like Christianity. It's just another concept, just as God is just another concept. It can be a tool but it's not absolute.

Moreover, the people who are Christian are supposed to be Christian, until they are not Christian anymore. Same goes for kabbalah.

Of course, every tool depends on the user of said tool and different people are suited for different approaches.