Eternity

[Eternity]

waz up folks

what happened before the "big bang" (if it even happened) - clearly SOMETHING on *some level* existed, or else, the "stuff" from which the big bang occurred from would not have been. neither would have the "place" in which the elements formed. it is strictly an impossibility for a something to come from an Absolute Nothing. common sense 101. Absolutely Nothing is *just that* ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Clearly, then, *something* existed before the "big bang" (again, if it even happened in the first place, no one knows for *sure*)

infinity is a long *** time. like, really REALLY long. think abotu that. to have ALWAYS existed. always. never have *not* existed. to have ALWAYS been. ALWAYS. forever. ALWAYS effing been. aaaaaalways. i mean, it's completely beyond comprehension. 100,000,000,000,000 years back into the past and you haven't even made any ground, you still have infinitely far back to travel. it NEVER ends. and it never began. there is no starting point. no place where infinity began or was born into existence. it simply IS. and always has been IS. and the IS never begins, never ends. it is endlessly a series of IS, IS, IS, IS. everything that could ever occur, on any level, already has, an INFINITE number of times, and continues to play itself out an INFINITE number of times. because there is nothing preventing its occurring. it has been occurring for EVER, and ever, and ever, it never did not occur, and if it didn't ever not occur, it has not been occurring itself infinitely.

we toss around the word eternity and infinity but how often do we profoundly look at it? it boggles me to no end. to sit, and profoundly consider it, the implications, the truth and reality of such a thing, leaves you speechless. it is completely incomprehensible, your mind will *click* shut off, when you grab a hold of it and lay down with it. it cannot understand or capture it, cannot own it, possess it, put it in a box. to have always existed, ALWAYS have been, is staggering.

To see with absolute certainty one will Always Exist and never Not Exist (though profoundly contemplating it) is literally the scariest thing I have ever witnessed. To know there is No Way Out, and to see and know with Complete Certainty you will ALWAYS EXIST and never *not* exist.. blows one away. It's like, unacceptable to the mind, because it's so scary. To never not exist? Do you realize how friggen LONG that is? It's completely beyond long. It's utterly Ridiculous to see. I would bow down in fear, and imagine there is a way out of it, that, if I wanted, I could choose to not always exist.. I would imagine this, as I would see the clear plain truth of it, because to fully accept it, would be to fall into a void and never come out, ever again. I would go back to this point many times and would always get scared and back out.

I used to imagine how it was like for god, if he always existed. If he simply always was, and was never born, then there was never a *point* where he "woke up" and would see his infinite nature. Because.. he has always been. God that's messed up to even skate around, the whole idea of it. Absolutely boggles me mind. But so yeah. How would god know he is god? if he always was, how would he know it? would he somehow always know it? but how? at what "point" would he arrive at this knowledge, if he ALWAYS was? there is no "point" in timelessness. So how would he know? If he simply always was, he would just forever be Is. Forever be one with isness. Always isness, Now. Exactly like our own experience, we all are.. forever in the now, the same now that never changes, moves, goes anywhere. It's the same "moment of now" as it was when you were a little child. No time has progressed, nothing has changed, nothing has happened, it's the same exact instant it has always been and always will be.

[taylor]

Why do you think you exist?

[desertrat]

Eternity welcome to the forum . There is a phrase , it goes , " I an not a human having a spiritual expernce , I am a spirit having a human experence". As humans we are limited to our 5 or 6 sences and things in the human experence. Things like forever and infinite and hard for us humans to wrap our minds around. As to the big bang I have some problems with it my self . As the theory goes th earth is around 4 billion , and the universe is around 14 billion . desert rat

[Eternity]

Originally Posted by taylor

Why do you think you exist?

Because it couldn't be otherwise.

[alphamind]

I share the same feelings from time to time. Then I realize there's nothing I can do about it... then I get depressed. And it repeats.

[Moriarty]

Originally Posted by Eternity

waz up folks

what happened before the "big bang" (if it even happened) - clearly SOMETHING on *some level* existed, or else, the "stuff" from which the big bang occurred from would not have been. neither would have the "place" in which the elements formed. it is strictly an impossibility for a something to come from an Absolute Nothing. common sense 101. Absolutely Nothing is *just that* ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Clearly, then, *something* existed before the "big bang" (again, if it even happened in the first place, no one knows for *sure*)

infinity is a long *** time. like, really REALLY long. think abotu that. to have ALWAYS existed. always. never have *not* existed. to have ALWAYS been. ALWAYS. forever. ALWAYS effing been. aaaaaalways. i mean, it's completely beyond comprehension. 100,000,000,000,000 years back into the past and you haven't even made any ground, you still have infinitely far back to travel. it NEVER ends. and it never began. there is no starting point. no place where infinity began or was born into existence. it simply IS. and always has been IS. and the IS never begins, never ends. it is endlessly a series of IS, IS, IS, IS. everything that could ever occur, on any level, already has, an INFINITE number of times, and continues to play itself out an INFINITE number of times. because there is nothing preventing its occurring. it has been occurring for EVER, and ever, and ever, it never did not occur, and if it didn't ever not occur, it has not been occurring itself infinitely.

we toss around the word eternity and infinity but how often do we profoundly look at it? it boggles me to no end. to sit, and profoundly consider it, the implications, the truth and reality of such a thing, leaves you speechless. it is completely incomprehensible, your mind will *click* shut off, when you grab a hold of it and lay down with it. it cannot understand or capture it, cannot own it, possess it, put it in a box. to have always existed, ALWAYS have been, is staggering.

To see with absolute certainty one will Always Exist and never Not Exist (though profoundly contemplating it) is literally the scariest thing I have ever witnessed. To know there is No Way Out, and to see and know with Complete Certainty you will ALWAYS EXIST and never *not* exist.. blows one away. It's like, unacceptable to the mind, because it's so scary. To never not exist? Do you realize how friggen LONG that is? It's completely beyond long. It's utterly Ridiculous to see. I would bow down in fear, and imagine there is a way out of it, that, if I wanted, I could choose to not always exist.. I would imagine this, as I would see the clear plain truth of it, because to fully accept it, would be to fall into a void and never come out, ever again. I would go back to this point many times and would always get scared and back out.

I used to imagine how it was like for god, if he always existed. If he simply always was, and was never born, then there was never a *point* where he "woke up" and would see his infinite nature. Because.. he has always been. God that's messed up to even skate around, the whole idea of it. Absolutely boggles me mind. But so yeah. How would god know he is god? if he always was, how would he know it? would he somehow always know it? but how? at what "point" would he arrive at this knowledge, if he ALWAYS was? there is no "point" in timelessness. So how would he know? If he simply always was, he would just forever be Is. Forever be one with isness. Always isness, Now. Exactly like our own experience, we all are.. forever in the now, the same now that never changes, moves, goes anywhere. It's the same "moment of now" as it was when you were a little child. No time has progressed, nothing has changed, nothing has happened, it's the same exact instant it has always been and always will be.

Hi...It could be because you're contemplating all this from a limited mind that can only think in linear time...beginnings and endings..and cannot grasp anything without time attached to it. When the brain tries to embrace this, it has a hissy-fit and short-circuits lol.

You can practice stepping away from the limits of the mind into the space beyond it, to experience infinite probability and pure potential (just words in themselves...dont get caught up in them as a particular thing to access).

[Eternity]

Originally Posted by Moriarty

Hi...It could be because you're contemplating all this from a limited mind that can only think in linear time...beginnings and endings..and cannot grasp anything without time attached to it. When the brain tries to embrace this, it has a hissy-fit and short-circuits lol.

You can practice stepping away from the limits of the mind into the space beyond it, to experience infinite probability and pure potential (just words in themselves...dont get caught up in them as a particular thing to access).

I'm not asking for help. And I don't need your advice.

[Moriarty]

Originally Posted by Eternity

I'm not asking for help. And I don't need your advice.

Great manners. Thanks. If you didn't want responses it would have been polite to post that.