Why you must be independent, rich and build a nuke Super Shelter for your families...

[Mayo]

Top Scientist Advocates Mass Culling 90% Of Human Population

[CFPurpose]

So the site drew me in and had my eyes as big as quarters........... I would say this is a site dedicated to conspiracies? I am at work so unfortunately I cannot delve as deep as I would like to but how would one venture to prove the validity of all of this?

I was rather put off by the Tuskegee Syphilis Study and the Ring Worm Children story seems to be too horrific to believe BUT, I don't doubt conspiracies at all.

Thank you for this link. I'll have to look farther into this.




Here is a link to an article that Scientist, "Forrest Mims" wrote

The Citizen Scientist

"Recently citizen scientist Forrest Mims told me about a speech he heard at the Texas Academy of Science during which the speaker, a world-renowned ecologist, advocated for the extermination of 90 percent of the human species in a most horrible and painful manner."

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Mayo

Top Scientist Advocates Mass Culling 90% Of Human Population

Well yeah.....in your Holographic Universes.

Not in mine.

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Every interval, all day long, the thoughts you chose, determine the paths you take through these holograms.

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[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Well yeah.....in your Holographic Universes.

Not in mine.

********
Every interval, all day long, the thoughts you chose, determine the paths you take through these holograms.

********

I don't think this is a creating your own reality type of process here. Maybe I misunderstood your post.

I printed a couple pages and read them downstairs while taking a cigarette break. (Certain nicotine kills more so than this may in my life)... maybe, maybe not.

Regardless, my stomach is in knots. Is it the fear itself or the mere words I read that caused this tightening or is it intuition that such a thing is quite possible in today’s world? Who knows. I've always felt that America truly isn't the land of the free and that has just been something I felt; not something I spend my free time researching. I tend to dedicate most of my free time to the psychic and spiritual realm but...

Might I say that the one thing that does speak truth is this. Why would the American govt. or our president allow such a speech to even take place? Freedom of speech, I would guess? I am going to see if this "speech" or article by Forrest Mims has even been approached by our leaders. If so, I’d like to see what they have to say on the matter. I'm certain it will be encouraging and just what our "ears" want to here.

Here's one good/bad thing. If in fact this theory of Pianka's ever did get put into the works, I can guarantee it won't be enacted using the Ebola Virus. That would just be to obvious now!

Now this is the whole reason, I try to steer clear of conspiracies, politics and arguments over American safety. My whole body grows rigid and I feel uneasy and not necessarily scared but filled with the signs of anxiety. So what. If we die, we die. I know where I am going and will return again one day but if in fact such possibilities occur, it angers me and saddens me to think of the deceit we as a population will have encured from our own leaders and protectors as well as the pain, hurt and anguish our loved one will encure, our children and just people in general.
** This is the spiritual nature of myself coming out I guess. I hate to see deceit, lies and pain. I absolutely hate, hate, hate it. Makes me just want to go "home." No-I'm not killing myself! LMAO.

[Mayo]

@Infinitethoughts

Well yeah.....in your Holographic Universes.

Not in mine.

Have you seen movie "12 monkey's" and what some rich madman can do? Well this are psychopaths that have both brains & money and they are loose..

@CFPurpose

it angers me and saddens me to think of the deceit we as a population will have encured from our own leaders and protectors as well as the pain, hurt and anguish our loved one will encure, our children and just people in general.

That is why we must prepare and fight!

I believe in Astral reality, but don't you think that entities in other realities would fight if someone wanted to wipe them off their current reality just for fun of it? This earth is something i want to enjoy a somewhat longer time, i do not see it inferior to other realities... in other realities you also have to fight if someone wants to cause you harm!

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by CFPurpose

I don't think this is a creating your own reality type of process here. Maybe I misunderstood your post.

No. I'm being serious.
Again.
This is how the universe is.

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Every interval, all day long, the thoughts you chose, determine the paths you take through these holographic universes.

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Originally Posted by CFPurpose

(Certain nicotine kills more so than this may in my life)...

Don't believe everthing you hear. Tobacco is a sacred healing plant.
Ca. Desert Indians smoked it when they got colds.

"Smoking was said by the desert Indians to be a cure for colds, especially if the tobacco was mixed with the leaves of the small Desert Sage, Salvia Dorrii , or the root of Indian Balsam or Cough Root, Leptotaenia multifida
Early Uses of Indian Tobacco in California"

Also Google 'Benefits of Nicotine'.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Mayo

@Infinitethoughts


Have you seen movie "12 monkey's" and what some rich madman can do? Well this are psychopaths that have both brains & money and they are loose..

As with every movie, it only gives half truths.

Read the book 'One' by Richard Bach.

You have the choice whether to stay in their 'psycopathic' universe, or move to any Holographic universe you choose.

[openeyes]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Don't believe everthing you hear. Tobacco is a sacred healing plant.
Ca. Desert Indians smoked it when they got colds.

Some people believe it's actually the sugar added to modern cigarettes (among the many other additives) that does the bulk of the damage. Also related would be the frequency of intake. Ritual or medicinal use is unlikely to be two packs a day for decades. It's quite possible to overdose on medicine.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by openeyes

Some people believe it's actually the sugar added to modern cigarettes (among the many other additives) that does the bulk of the damage. Also related would be the frequency of intake. Ritual or medicinal use is unlikely to be two packs a day for decades. It's quite possible to overdose on medicine.

Thanks for that info and insight Open eyes.
Apt name there, Open eyes , by the way. I dig it.


That is actually how I use tobacco. For intense contemplation and reflection.
--Rice rolling papers, and Bali Shag.
Organic American Spirit is harsh, even after I humidify the tobacco.

I do taste a slight chemical after taste in Bali Shag, tho.

[WanderingOak]

Originally Posted by openeyes

Some people believe it's actually the sugar added to modern cigarettes (among the many other additives) that does the bulk of the damage. Also related would be the frequency of intake. Ritual or medicinal use is unlikely to be two packs a day for decades. It's quite possible to overdose on medicine.

In NY is is the fireproof paper (no kidding- the paper is treated so it won't burn) that is worse than the tobacco. All it does is cause people to go out of state or onto the nearest Indian reservation to buy cigarettes. People smoke just as much, they just don't pay NY state taxes anymore.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by WanderingOak

In NY is is the fireproof paper (no kidding- the paper is treated so it won't burn) that is worse than the tobacco. All it does is cause people to go out of state or onto the nearest Indian reservation to buy cigarettes. People smoke just as much, they just don't pay NY state taxes anymore.

Yeah I heard about that.

It's amazing how present companies are so clueless on how incredibly dangerous chemicals are to the organic human system.

[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Don't believe everthing you hear. Tobacco is a sacred healing plant.
Ca. Desert Indians smoked it when they got colds.
.

i have smoked since I was 15 years old. Thats a long time to have been pulling that smoke into my lungs. Tried numerous times to quit with the patch, the gum, cold turkey, you name it. The problem is that I truly enjoy it because I'm wrather hyper active so when I just need a nice break or simply have nothing to do but stand outside; I need something in my hand to do!

The other problem though is when my chest begins to hurt and my voice grown raspy with a smokers cough for 6 months out of the year. That is a problem my friend. I have read though that there are meditative healing techniques one can do to rid of the damage caused by smoking. Haven't found any references on the techniques though, just seen where people claimed to have rid of the effects. Does anyone know of any references on this?

The smoking part of this thread should be split to a new thread by the way, don't you all think?

[Lychee]

Generally speaking, you can deny what is going on in the world and think that your reality is that exists but we are all interconnected.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Generally speaking, you can deny what is going on in the world and think that your reality is that exists but we are all interconnected.

So basically you're saying there is only one world?

[nosussbeliefs]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

No. I'm being serious.

Don't believe everthing you hear. Tobacco is a sacred healing plant.
Ca. Desert Indians smoked it when they got colds.

"Smoking was said by the desert Indians to be a cure for colds, especially if the tobacco was mixed with the leaves of the small Desert Sage, Salvia Dorrii , or the root of Indian Balsam or Cough Root, Leptotaenia multifida
Early Uses of Indian Tobacco in California"

Also Google 'Benefits of Nicotine'.

I'm used to reading many of your whack cracker jack beliefs but this is straight up ridiculous. Why would you give a rats what indians believed did what? When science and experience shows you the damage it does? Are you so delluded you think that your belief overides nicotine dependence and side effects?

I'd bet you'd believe heroin was healing too if an indian told you that...

[DaveTyler]

Tobacco the plant isnt bad, its what the commercial companies fill it with that kills you.
Again infinite, so if it became nuclear war, u would just not believe it was and you would live in a peaceful world?
THERES ONE ABSOLUTE REALITY. Gawd damn, in "your reality" there isnt starving children in Afrika, cause you avoid thinking of it, so you may not attract evidence such as news, newspapers etc. but its still happening on this earth.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs

I'm used to reading many of your whack cracker jack beliefs but this is straight up ridiculous.

Lol... Thats a good one. "Whack cracker jack".
I like it. I'm gonna steal it, you don't mind do you ?

Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs

Why would you give a rats what indians believed did what?

Why would I give a rat's ass?
Because they have more Respect & nobility in their pinky fingernail then in the entire body of a corporate white man, thats why, whack jacker.


Why would I give a rat's ass?
Because they are infinitely SMARTER then corporate white man.
Thats why.

Why would I give a rat's ass?
Cause they have a deep connection to nature, that corporate white man will NEVER have.
That's why.

Their downfall ?
They do not lie, and corporate white man does.

"Modern medicine?"
Nosuch, it's a fukin joke.
Using petroleum based products to heal an organic body????

If you ever get deathly sick? Follow my advice and run as fast as you can to traditional medicine.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

Tobacco the plant isnt bad, its what the commercial companies fill it with that kills you.
Again infinite, so if it became nuclear war, u would just not believe it was and you would live in a peaceful world?
THERES ONE ABSOLUTE REALITY. Gawd damn, in "your reality" there isnt starving children in Afrika, cause you avoid thinking of it, so you may not attract evidence such as news, newspapers etc. but its still happening on this earth.

Hey Dave.
You're absolutely right.
In my reality there is all this.

The thing is tho, as I'm awakening, I'm learning.
I'm learning that I can choose my realities.
Then slowly I start moving away from these realities and choose different ones.

[Lychee]

I agree with what infinitethoughts is saying - corporate America is missing that connection to nature that the Indians have (minus some of the out-there stuff they do). Nature is where you find real peace and the people who surround themselves with man-made things are missing out on that beauty.

Check out Kevin Trudeau's books. Even though there is a lot of fluff in it, it has some good stuff you might find interesting.

So basically you're saying there is only one world?

I am saying that we are all interconnected, experiencing a common reality. A reality although superficial in some senses, affects us.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Lychee

I agree with what infinitethoughts is saying - corporate America is missing that connection to nature that the Indians have (minus some of the out-there stuff they do). Nature is where you find real peace and the people who surround themselves with man-made things are missing out on that beauty.

Check out Kevin Trudeau's books. Even though there is a lot of fluff in it, it has some good stuff you might find interesting.



I am saying that we are all interconnected, experiencing a common reality. A reality although superficial in some senses, affects us.

Lychee.
I agree, but this 'reality' does not have has much control as we would give it.....the more awake you become.

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Lychee.
I agree, but this 'reality' does not have has much control as we would give it.....the more awake you become.

You can say that first we think we victims of circumstance, then we realize we really are in control of our own thoughts and actions. I also agree that once we find the connection between our inner self, we will better understand the outer world. But we did not construct this world we live in, the Seen and the Unseen. We realize we are it, we are a part of it, and we have some control of it. But not "omni-control" or omniscience.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Lychee

We realize we are it, we are a part of it, and we have some control of it. But not "omni-control" or omniscience.

How do you know......that there aren't some people that have total control over this reality?

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

How do you know......that there aren't some people that have total control over this reality?

Because a mere person cannot do the things which brought about this reality.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Because a mere person cannot do the things which brought about this reality.

How do you know that a person cannot do the things which brought about "their" reality?
Do you know all the 6 billions awarenesses, and their individual universes, in this realm?

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Because a mere person cannot do the things which brought about this reality.

Mere person? Lol this amuses me to the core. I cannot be offended, only can I be amused. I am not mere nor am I a person. I am all that is and all that is is me.

Infinite you and me buddy, we are on the same page...seems you are farther along in the page though, as far as integration. I enjoy your posts.

[DaveTyler]

Still ************ is happpening, personally I believe in some mass awakening on earth soon or its dooms day.
No matter how peaceful you r subjective reality is, if your in a town that gets nuked your dead no matter what. You got to play by the rules.

[Lychee]

How do you know that a person cannot do the things which brought about "their" reality?
Do you know all the 6 billions awarenesses, and their individual universes, in this realm?

Mere person? Lol this amuses me to the core. I cannot be offended, only can I be amused. I am not mere nor am I a person. I am all that is and all that is is me.

lol It's great that you're amused. haha You can call it whatever you want. "I am that" from Hindu text, "I AM" in the BIble. But you are misinterpreting my saying "mere person" to degrade the definition of who we are. We are a spirit soul, but not the First Cause consciousness.

You got to play by the rules.

That's exactly my point. We are all bound by law which we have not set, thus the "mere person." Our power pales in comparison to the Power which created us and all that is.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by DoAnyOfYouExist

Infinite you and me buddy, we are on the same page...seems you are farther along in the page though, as far as integration. I enjoy your posts.

Thanks bro !

Learning as I go, learning as I go.

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

No matter how peaceful you r subjective reality is, if your in a town that gets nuked your dead no matter what. You got to play by the rules.

Dave.
You just admitted your in your own subjective reality, why the hell create a town getting nuked, in your own subjective reality ?!

I don't play by these stupid limited 'rules.'
They are wayy too limiting for my infinite self.

Originally Posted by Lychee

lol It's great that you're amused. haha You can call it whatever you want. "I am that" from Hindu text, "I AM" in the BIble. But you are misinterpreting my saying "mere person" to degrade the definition of who we are. We are a spirit soul, but not the First Cause consciousness.

Lychee.
You seem to forget one thing.............that every 'mere person', says 'I am.'


This should tell you something, hmmm?

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Lychee.
You seem to forget one thing.............that every 'mere person', says 'I am.'


This should tell you something, hmmm?

It tells me that we certainly are, but that leads to the question "Where did 'I' come from?" We came from the origin, singularity, God. It tells me that I am an effect of The Cause, not The Cause itself.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Lychee

that I am an effect of The Cause, not The Cause itself.

You're certainly welcome to believe that.