|10-21-2011, 02:45 AM||#91 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2011
You guys are missing the point - you are not "in" your body, your body IS you.
You aren't just the conscious mind part, you are also all the unconscious parts too!
Your heart beat, digestion, etc - that's you too, even though you don't directly control it.
To say you aren't human is ridiculous - just look in the mirror.
Arcanum, do you deliberately try to be confusing or is speaking in vague platitudes something that naturally comes along with ego-loss?
|10-21-2011, 03:01 AM||#92 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2011
|10-21-2011, 12:59 PM||#93 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2011
There are two "I's".
There is the "I" that the ego creates, the idea that the self is separate.
And there is the "I" that exists because of the limitations of vocabulary. So when I say that I can see my mind, the "I" that is seeing it isnt an "I" but a consciousness, a presence of the whole in each of us. Using "I" is confusing but necessary to express one's uniqueness but doesnt mean separation.
The "I" that the mind sees is the illusion of separation called the ego. To try to make that illusion real, it has to enforce that illusion on others. If my ego is that I am the boss and the people around me are lowly slaves then thoses subordinates must act like lowly slaves for my ego to be "true". That is the killer of love in the world....the forced compliance and obedience to each other's egos or all hell breaks loose including world war.
Who is the "I" asking the question "who am I?". I dont see "who am I?" as a literal question until the mind has the vocabulary to try to verbalize what the question represents.
To me the question is representative of both wonderment, because nature is astonishing, especially to the whole minds of the babies. Yet being alive as a human is also scary as it takes a moment to moment effort to take care of this body and mind and that baby doesnt know how to do it. Its hungry but doesnt know what to do, its got a dirty diaper and doesnt know what to do.
The spiritual love of the mother kills the fear as she feeds the tummy and changes the diaper and restores the baby's body to comfort.
To me, "who am I?" represents that combination of wonderment and fear and then as vocabulary grows and as the baby grows and learns to be self sufficient, the question evolves to "what is the meaning or purpose to life?"
To me, there is no purpose, just the beauty of life itself. And to me, "God's Will" (for those that think theres some entity with a plan) is simply to be my natural whole self and nothing more. As a natural being, i will automatically look for ways to love and create in a way that is a gift to the world. That "I" know to the core of my being.
The Ten Commandments and other religious laws aren't needed for those that "give" authentically of self but for those that are still stuck in ego, taking dignity from others in millions of different ways. To me, "ego" is the only satan as the mind is greed (greedy to solve problems including a longing to be happy), and awareness that catharts beliefs (especially the ego belief system) is the only salvation. The commandments are a play on the ego/mind to force social order.
Last edited by RonSouther; 10-21-2011 at 01:09 PM.
|10-21-2011, 01:20 PM||#94 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2011
I can see in myself a compulsion to also seek to create and also be willing to "be out with the old and in with the new"....the process of decreation (e.g., recycling). In that vein i can see I am part of the whole doing my part of the whole's creation and decreation effort.
My nightly dreams are the unfinished business in my mind. The mind is greedy for closure and it it cant get closure in the conscious mind then the unconscious mind will express itself in my dreams. The day I am 150% authentic, never repressing myself for the opinion of another is the day I stop dreaming.
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