Anyone else not like the idea of the Universe repeating itself?

[alphamind]

I've not really gotten into depth of this theory but the title pretty much says it all, without getting into the mechanics.

It's been on my mind for a while to be frank. If while things are looking better physically and spiritually and hope for truth and a life based on a higher vibration is ahead, the idea that one day it will all go back to square one is pretty much a killer.

I'm surprised there aren't any threads about this.

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[VinceG]

Midnite discusses just this sort of theory in the "Regarding demons" thread, if you care to delve through it.

[alphamind]

Yeah I read everything.

Thought I'd make a thread dedicated to this though.

[JohnnyHerrera]

I do not like the idea. The far I go thinking about the Universe and all it's depths makes my whole body tremble.

[Midnite]

Best advice a spirit guide ever gave me: 'you'll eventually get over it'.

If it makes you feel any better, there is the compounding nature of subtle differences that are varying your life experiences almost slightly

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Best advice a spirit guide ever gave me: 'you'll eventually get over it'.

...and then I'll live it again! I don't know about anyone else but that's pretty damn disturbing to me lol.

If subtle differences are all I can get I'll take 'em. With the idea that these differences are improvements of course.

[Wombels]

Originally Posted by alphamind

...and then I'll live it again!

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[wolfgang]

the Universe is going to repeat itself and you are thinking this will impact you somehow?

would it also bother you that if (or since) the universe is either infinite or one of infinite universes (multiverse), then there is an exact copy of you as you are right now among all the (multi)universe(s). Infinity is that "big".

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Best advice a spirit guide ever gave me: 'you'll eventually get over it'.

Hilarious!

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Midnite

If it makes you feel any better, there is the compounding nature of subtle differences that are varying your life experiences almost slightly

Seems to me that there might be a way to figure out which of your experiences are mandatory and which are optional, in real-time. Then you could obtain the greatest degree of freedom possible in the universe. If you could write this event into the record, then you'd become 'permanently' free, at the same time, every time in the giant go-around.

At least, until you die. Doh!

[VinceG]

I wonder how active our 6th Dimensional Higher Selves are in this process. Seems like we're simulations, being controlled by our Higher Selves, the same way we control characters in a video game. The objective of this video game would be to help us discover ourselves more quickly. How many hacks are possible? Where are the glitches in the matrix?

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

the Universe is going to repeat itself and you are thinking this will impact you somehow?

would it also bother you that if (or since) the universe is either infinite or one of infinite universes (multiverse), then there is an exact copy of you as you are right now among all the (multi)universe(s). Infinity is that "big".

As everyone else, I've gone through some painful experiences. It'd be great if I could look back at them and tell myself that I'm glad that's all over, and move on. But if the universe repeats itself I can't do that, and it's a real killer looking ahead to purer states of consciousness after I learned/learn my lessons, and knowing those will be over also only to start again from scratch, and playing the same old disc. So yea it bothers me, since it affects me directly. You could say this implies attachment to life and maybe so -- I admit my state of consciousness isn't in the right vibration yet to be God and be non-attached. And you could say that one day I will not be attached no longer and see all this is/has been an illusion all along. But tell that to my future/past/whatever "self" in the next round. Or do I have the completely wrong idea here (no sarcasm)?

[JohnnyHerrera]

Originally Posted by alphamind

Or do I have the completely wrong idea here (no sarcasm)?

There's no thing such a "wrong" idea. Some will find that you're a genius, some will find it as a reasonable idea, some will find it bad, some will find you crazy and some will don't care. Personally I think it's a bad idea to keep going with something that you don't even know how to start answering, even if it bothers you. If you bite off more than you can chew, you take on more responsibilities than you can manage. But that's just me saying

[Criseyde]

I've never heard of this idea. What exactly is it? That we do everything and then forget and do everything all over?

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Criseyde

That we do everything and then forget and do everything all over?

Pretty much.

[Criseyde]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Pretty much.

Tee hee, that sounds like it lines right up with my life experience so far. So... much... déjà vu...

[supertom]

Originally Posted by alphamind

I've not really gotten into depth of this theory but the title pretty much says it all, without getting into the mechanics.

It's been on my mind for a while to be frank. If while things are looking better physically and spiritually and hope for truth and a life based on a higher vibration is ahead, the idea that one day it will all go back to square one is pretty much a killer.

I'm surprised there aren't any threads about this.

Are you open to any other ideas of the universe

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by supertom

Are you open to any other ideas of the universe

Why you ask

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by VinceG

I wonder how active our 6th Dimensional Higher Selves are in this process.

Uh.. I don't know. My 9th dimensional self is too busy running the show.

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

Uh.. I don't know. My 9th dimensional self is too busy running the show.

Your spiritual cynicism gets old after awhile.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by alphamind

Why you ask

There are many other views on this than ascended, forget and go again.

[ChrisGinsburg]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Your spiritual cynicism gets old after awhile.

Spiritual Cynicism? Is that like cynicism with a touch of enlightened water?

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by ChrisGinsburg

Spiritual Cynicism? Is that like cynicism with a touch of enlightened water?

Don't forget the black Buddha pepper.

[Manipulator]

I subscribe to the idea that there an infinite number of possibilities and configurations and that nothing will ever be replicated. Our universe may eventually fizzle out, but the omniverse is a different story entirely.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by alphamind

As everyone else, I've gone through some painful experiences. It'd be great if I could look back at them and tell myself that I'm glad that's all over, and move on. But if the universe repeats itself I can't do that, and it's a real killer looking ahead to purer states of consciousness after I learned/learn my lessons, and knowing those will be over also only to start again from scratch, and playing the same old disc. So yea it bothers me, since it affects me directly.

I don't see how it can effect you directly. Unless you actually remember doing the exact same thing over again. In which case it wouldn't be the same thing over again because you are remembering it happened another time - or the second time. It wouldn't be the same with that memory intact. Otherwise to be the same thing exactly would be not knowing it's happened before - in which case there is absolutely no effect or possibility for it to effect you directly.

It could be right now that, if this theory is correct, that the universe is in a repeat and we all don't know that it happened before. But we don't have any recollection of the other times the universe did this.

You could say this implies attachment to life and maybe so -- I admit my state of consciousness isn't in the right vibration yet to be God and be non-attached. And you could say that one day I will not be attached no longer and see all this is/has been an illusion all along. But tell that to my future/past/whatever "self" in the next round. Or do I have the completely wrong idea here (no sarcasm)?

Is you past self about to talk at all to your present self?

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by VinceG

If you could write this event into the record, then you'd become 'permanently' free, at the same time, every time in the giant go-around.

Actually you have a very beneficial chain of thought here. The purpose of the repeat is to achieve a greater level of efficiency learning our spiritual lessons every time the cycle revolves. By accepting and learning lessons faster, you make your cycle slightly smaller every single time. This then becomes compounded by every single other-dimensional/multi-verse self that is also learning lessons in a more efficient manner. The reason why the universe is changing is because it needs to adapt to our quickening of realisations. Whole scenes or experiences are being wiped off altogether when we manage to achieve this.

Originally Posted by VinceG

I wonder how active our 6th Dimensional Higher Selves are in this process.

It's the only higher being who actually cares. I think it does more than what we give it credit for.

How many hacks are possible? Where are the glitches in the matrix?

What do you think Deja Vu is? Our consciousness remembering the cycle in its exact situation. I used to get really vivid Deja Vu experiences, mostly triggered by pre-cognitive dreams, that would unfold entire scenes of people speaking, going through actions, even down to what my own thoughts were of what was happening around me, months/years before it actualy happened. How the hell is this possible?

The further we progress the more hacks that are made available to us, even to the point where I started recognising I was in the matrix, without completely waking up yet. It's why I am so interested in the direct manipulation of life itself.

Originally Posted by Criseyde

I've never heard of this idea. What exactly is it?

It is a concept where we are no longer looking at the Creation in linear time, but rather mapping it by spiritual awakenings through the use of dimensional evolvments (i.e progressing from the 3rd Dimension to the 4th). We commence outwards from Source, we go back to Source. Therefore a cycle exists with Source completing it. The cycle revolves in a continual basis.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Is you past self about to talk at all to your present self?

Past self from "this" cycle, or a previous one?

[alphamind]

Another I've been questioning recently, though it may go a bit off topic but, if the universe really does repeat itself, would I still be alphamind in the next round? Do we always experience the same lives or could I be experiencing the reality of Midnite instead in the next cycle? I suppose this won't be this simple to answer, since I imagine this goes pretty deep with other concepts.

[alphamind]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

It could be right now that, if this theory is correct, that the universe is in a repeat and we all don't know that it happened before. But we don't have any recollection of the other times the universe did this.

You got a good point there.

I probably won't give a damn if I remember nothing, but I give a damn now damnit!

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Past self from "this" cycle, or a previous one?

I had typos in there. "Is your past self able to talk at all to your present self?"

The questioning of this idea would apply to either "this" cycle or a previous one. A past self being something that was before and is now repeating.

I ask only out of curiously wondering what is being believed here in this theory of repeating universes and then also how having this belief is cause for stress or worries.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by alphamind

You got a good point there.

I probably won't give a damn if I remember nothing, but I give a damn now damnit!

Don't borrow trouble.

What is it that makes you give a damn?

Are you worried that there is no purpose if all that is happening is repeats?

Or that you have not progressed any since last time, and no progress is bad?

Are you worried that next time around, you will be bored because you've done it before?