Spiritual Ego

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Good analysis, however I see all the spiritual teachers as potentially causing harm. As with you, I see no malice in your intentions but as you said you drum up hate in others. So did Jesus. So does Tolle and I hated god. Is that a good thing? Is this your intention to bring out the darkness of another? If it isn't this is still the effect you have. To be honest I think it's absolutely great to experience this on the forum. Grrr let it all out. However, nothing changes if all we do is look at each other without seeing ourselves. My problem with you is that I've been looking at you for a long time and I still don't see you. You are a mystery to me. Who are you?

I don't have an intention. I come empty to these discussions, and an empty mirror only reflects only what is looking into it. Everyone will see something different, and that will also change as the face in the mirror changes.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Beingist

You know, I just gotta say this, now...

I used to be incorrigibly argumentative. Anymore, though, the minute even a spark of desire to argue arises, I look at it, and it simply goes away. It may sound odd, but I'm to the point where I actually enjoy dealing with the challenge of that spark arising, and it makes me grateful for all the a55holes in the world.



(oh, and btw, I'm not calling anyone here an a55hole, I'm just speaking generally)

Cool. It's that focus I was referring to in the post. I didn't mean it as an insult or nuthin.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Cool. It's that focus I was referring to in the post. I didn't mean it as an insult or nuthin.

Yes, I know. No offense taken.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Well, I do believe in his ability to 'channel' certain energies in consciousness, though not God as folks imagine, but of course it gets filtered through his own dynamics.

What are the 'energies in consciousness'?

In fact, I'm remembering it was my suspicion that in the later books he began channeling some lower astral energies, since the tone changed to world saving and aligned more with his personal perspectives.

Confused again as to what these 'astral energies are."

The last one I read was "what god wants." Well the title put me off but then he went on to say that god doesn't want anything and filled a book saying so. God had left the building.

HA! We create God in our image.

Indeed!

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Yes, I know. No offense taken.

Groovy. At least there's one person on the forum I'm not 'arguing' with. Hehe.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

I don't have an intention. I come empty to these discussions, and an empty mirror only reflects only what is looking into it.

You believe you come empty but if you look in the mirror you might see that you don't.

Everyone will see something different, and that will also change as the face in the mirror changes.

Yes this is because it is so. We are different and we change.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

What are the 'energies in consciousness'?

Confused again as to what these 'astral energies are."

I just mean that all thoughts come from the same consciousness, and we align with whatever we focus on. In the same way that we can associate with various types of peeps, we can derive information from different aspects of consciousness. (I'm trying to avoid using the term 'levels of consciousness' cause there aren't really levels)

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

You believe you come empty but if you look in the mirror you might see that you don't.

That's what you see in the mirror. Hehe.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

I just mean that all thoughts come from the same consciousness, and we align with whatever we focus on. In the same way that we can associate with various types of peeps, we can derive information from different aspects of consciousness. (I'm trying to avoid using the term 'levels of consciousness' cause there aren't really levels)

Ok I'm familiar with focus and answers seemingly coming from somewhere else, as with CWG. You call it consciousness but is it not really the same thing without the religion?

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

That's what you see in the mirror. Hehe.

Well avoided! I'm constantly looking in the mirror and have no fear of what I might see.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Ok I'm familiar with focus and answers seemingly coming from somewhere else, as with CWG. You call it consciousness but is it not really the same thing without the religion?

Same thing as what?

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Same thing as what?

God but without the religion.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

God but without the religion.

I don't see it as much different than a religion. Groups meet all over the country. There's one here that meets weekly to 'praise the CWG', and I attending a meeting and caused a little trouble. They made a point of inviting me back, so I guess i wasn't TOO evil.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

I don't see it as much different than a religion. Groups meet all over the country. There's one here that meets weekly to 'praise the CWG', and I attending a meeting and caused a little trouble. They made a point of inviting me back, so I guess i wasn't TOO evil.

Ha ha ha. Went to a buddist meeting and they handed a written prayer for him that we had to read when he entered. I said to my daughter, "shall we leave now or go for the ride?' I kept it quiet though, same evil.

I know it's hard to imagine Neale's god without the religion but what I'm pointing to is that the source of Neale's god and the consciousness you speak of are one and the same, except Neale has channelled the energy as an extention of himself.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Maguru

I know it's hard to imagine Neale's god without the religion but what I'm pointing to is that the source of Neale's god and the consciousness you speak of are one and the same, except Neale has channelled the energy as an extention of himself.

Right, he's looking inside and projecting what he finds to the outside. In the largest context, he's consciousness, imagining he's Neale, imagining he's talking to God, which is himself. Hehe.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Right, he's looking inside and projecting what he finds to the outside. In the largest context, he's consciousness, imagining he's Neale, imagining he's talking to God, which is himself. Hehe.

Just out of curiosiity, Arcanum, do you see any problem with that?

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Just out of curiosiity, Arcanum, do you see any problem with that?

Nope. Wanna argue about it? Hehe.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Nope. Wanna argue about it? Hehe.

Ha!

No, I was really just curious.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Beingist

Ha!

No, I was really just curious.

I think CWG has been very helpful to a lot of folks in breaking through old notions of God and resolving some of the contradictions of religion. ACIM has a similar effect in the context of Christianity. They both have their own boundaries and some folks use them as stepping stones and some use them as comfy blankets.

[Beingist]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

I think CWG has been very helpful to a lot of folks in breaking through old notions of God and resolving some of the contradictions of religion. ACIM has a similar effect in the context of Christianity. They both have their own boundaries and some folks use them as stepping stones and some use them as comfy blankets.

Interesting observation. I, myself, used them both as stepping stones.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Right, he's looking inside and projecting what he finds to the outside. In the largest context, he's consciousness, imagining he's Neale, imagining he's talking to God, which is himself. Hehe.

Beautiful!