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Old 11-08-2006, 03:42 PM
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i've been having a tough week, in which the same things dont excite me, and life seems pretty pointless and meaningless. The goals and things that i felt were important just months before are now so trivial that sometimes i find myself feeling depressed and lonely.
Steve's blogs helped me out, telling me that i am going through an expansion of consciousness. i also found the articles on the law of attraction and subjective reality to be enlightening and now it's hard for me to believe that i thought of life as anything else but the inside of my mind. But for those of you that have come ot accept this detail, how did you deal with the feeling of being alone in the world, that other people's consciousness are just reflections of your own and that you can control the entirety of your own reality with your own thoughts? What is the point of being successful, of falling in love, or helping people if they are just manifestations of your own reality? Are all these things only helping yourself?
Does the law of attraction really work? If i think of all the times i got "lucky" i realize that i never had doubts that the opposite thing would happen. Perhaps i told myself i had doubts, so as not to "jinx" the situation, but if i am being perfectly honest with myself i knew that the outcome would be in my favour and, for negative experiences, i knew the outcome would not be in my favour. Can you use the law of attraction to get straight A's? To become successful in your career? Can you make someone fall in love with you? Can you run a marathon by using the law of attraction?
Though this seems to be a powerful and wonderful tool, the hardest part of this whole new awareness is finding something important enough to want and to form goals that i feel make a difference in the grand scheme of things.
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Don't be lonely. you are connected to everybody else because you are everybody else. we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. recognising that connection is what gives rise to the love an compassion that makes relationships truly rewarding. You realise that by giving to someone else you are giving to yourself and vice-a-versa so you treat everybody like you want to be treated.

The trick to getting the LOA to work is to work at it from both ends. Simultaneously think lots about what you want in detail and also work on your inhibiting beliefs. You can only manifest within your current beliefs system and model of what is possible. for example, if you believe yourself to be socially incapable, you inhinit your manifestations to only occur within that framework. You could never become a millionaire with a socially based goal for instance. You would be limited to doing some sort of internet thing or something that avoids social contact.

As you uncover and release the inhibiting thoughts/beliefs about yourself you naturally and effortlessly move towards what you want to do most and your goals manifest.
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Also, start small and build confidence. One of the things we consistently manifest is lack of control over the world around us. Confidence is the antidote. So start by using the law of intention on your small things and maintain/improve the other things by whatever other method works. Build up to the bigger things.
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And joy. There is nothing more potent to manifesting your desires than experiencing continual joy, independent of what's happening around you. Yes--around; nothing happens "to" you except what you allow. So allow joy.
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ok, what if you love someone and want them to love you back in the same way? hence, with your mind you are controlling theirs feelings for you because you are controlling how you feel about their feelings for you. so, with this theory you can make someone love you. however, whats the point? if you created this love and made this person love you simply by loving yourself then, why not just love yourself, and forget about being married, having friends having family? If all the love and friendship you have for other people is jsut a projection of the love you feel for yourself, then why use people as a mirror? it seems that in this line of thinking, lonliness is the greatest company of all.
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ok, what if you love someone and want them to love you back in the same way? hence, with your mind you are controlling theirs feelings for you because you are controlling how you feel about their feelings for you. so, with this theory you can make someone love you. however, whats the point? if you created this love and made this person love you simply by loving yourself then, why not just love yourself, and forget about being married, having friends having family? If all the love and friendship you have for other people is jsut a projection of the love you feel for yourself, then why use people as a mirror? it seems that in this line of thinking, lonliness is the greatest company of all.
Interesting way of looking at things.

I do believe that loneliness can bring you strength if you know how to use it properly. Feeling lonely can propel you to learn to love yourself.
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I'm in this PD thing for about a year now and i'm so happy cause i found it. One thing is for sure, i would never think about these things i'm thinking now if wasn't lonely at that time.
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for those of you that have experienced a rise in awareness in a short period of time (i am assuming most of you, or at least some of you who aer interested in doing so, or you wouldnt have chosen this particular thread?), how did you overcome the inital depression?

Now that i feel i have opened my eyes, and realize that thigns that once made me feel fulfilled no long do so, i feel kind of lost and in limbo. I dont have any concrete plans for my futures, for my education, i dont know if i can related to my friends in the way i could before and social interaction seems lonely. i dont feel loved, and i dont feel that other people will understand if i try to talk to them. i assume that they will think i am just being crazy or intellectually pretentious.

right now i feel like i am going through motions. i laugh and joke with people as i've always done, i do my homework, but with no real motivation and usually end up with lowsy marks. the only thing i do to numb my thoughts is intense exercise. i find that if i excercise to the point of lactate threshold for as long as possible, then i can make myslef hypoglycemic and shut off some parts of my brain that are driving me crazy with their depressive thinking. also, the endorphins are good too....

right now i just dont find any joy or happiness, everyone's problems seem so trivial, and i have no interest or hopes for the future.. it's almost like therei s no point in living (however, i am not in any way suicidal, so dont worry). i just feel like im being a passenger right now, riding life, letting time pass without being involved in the actual navigation or driving. and i guess what i'm tying to ask is, for those of you who have become more aware, did you experience the same thing, that i am trying to describe and how did you overcome these feelings?
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do some reading. "the power of now" would be a good start if you haven't read it. it explains how we become victims of our thoughts instead of just being in this very moment. then read "joy" from osho. you will have two great books to stick to whenever it gets tough.

continue your personal growth and the joy will come from within, future is just an excuse for not being happy right now. you also have a choice to feel whatever you want to feel. your current feelings are mostly conditioned, you don't have to feel this way if you don't want. so what if life looks pointless right now! only you can give it a meaning, find a meaning! obviously, the socially accepted set of values doesn't work for you. good! you want more! and there is more!

personal development can't really bring you down. the more you expand your awareness, the more you will feel good and happy, not because somebody loves you but because you are love and you can feel love for everything and everybody around you. you won't beg for happiness, it will come from within.

feel inspired by steve and others, you have all the resources to get there...

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Yes, i know what are you talking about DQueens. For example i went to oral exam on college and while sitting in front of a profesor i felt so f* up. I actually didn't care if i pass or fail, it was too much apathy in my life. Nothing was important enough to worry me. And i wasn't feeling happy and satisfied either, and that is PD all about.

I started writing my daily goals before going to sleep. During the day i carried that piece of paper with me and crossed things i've completed. In the end of day you look at hat paper and see that you're actually doing something, no matter how small these things seems, it is something that you did. On Sunday you can see all the things you've completed in a week and see where are these things leading you. Are you walking towards college or away of it? Are you going to create or improve relationships with someone? Are you getting stronger by working out? Answer those and similiar questions and correct your actions that you're not satisfied with.

In the end of month you'll get cleaner picture of your travel. And it's cool to see all those small things that you've done. Law of attraction won't work if you're unsatisfied with your self.

Life are all those things that we do while planing things that we want to do.
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